May be a dumb question,but I'm still young and would love if I could one day become pregnant and have biological children,but it will likely remain impossible.Thoughts on this topic?

Quote from: Makenzie on March 14, 2015, 11:18:31 AM
May be a dumb question,but I'm still young and would love if I could one day become pregnant and have biological children,but it will likely remain impossible.Thoughts on this topic?

Ever is a very long time. A lot of medical technology will need to be developed between now and then - female reproductive apparatus is among the most complex in the body. But a hundred years ago we didn't have computers, now we have a network that spans the world, so, as long as we don't wipe ourselves out, there is every reason to believe that some future generation will be able to have this.

If there are uterine/cervix/ovary transplants, they'll probably be tried on cis women first.

I'm afraid you're not young enough to have this opportunity. But you can have your own biological children today, if you freezed your genetic material before starting HRT, and if you have a LOT of money...

I'd say there's no doubt that it will be possible one day, the real question isn't if but when?
Right now the question falls into my favourite category of science fiction, sci fi writers have tried to guess the near future many times and often fail, where's our flying cars and robot helpers that films and books said we'd have by now?
Arthur C Clarke's opening line in his book Profiles of the future is in fact "it is impossible to predict the future, and all attempts to do so in any detail appear ludicrous within a very few years"

With that in mind I don't think it will happen in my life time but with the speed that medical science is moving at it may happen in the lifetime of some young people alive today. I may however be wrong and find myself reading about the first Transwoman to give birth any day or year now.

Quote from: Jayne on March 14, 2015, 12:38:23 PM
I'd say there's no doubt that it will be possible one day, the real question isn't if but when?
Right now the question falls into my favourite category of science fiction, sci fi writers have tried to guess the near future many times and often fail, where's our flying cars and robot helpers that films and books said we'd have by now?
Arthur C Clarke's opening line in his book Profiles of the future is in fact "it is impossible to predict the future, and all attempts to do so in any detail appear ludicrous within a very few years"

With that in mind I don't think it will happen in my life time but with the speed that medical science is moving at it may happen in the lifetime of some young people alive today. I may however be wrong and find myself reading about the first Transwoman to give birth any day or year now.

Jayne, you may just be my new favourite person. 

I couldn't agree more with this (any attempts may cause me to implode!!!). Flying cars DO exist, just not in mass-production. The problem is take-off space...because for some reason, using a VTO/L system is too obvious for people to figure out. And robots are advancing, albeit slowly. But they do still exist. So hey, who knows? It could indeed be any day now.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is, never give up the hope that you'll see that day come...you just never know.

I hope so, oh my god, yesterday my aunt gave birth, and I was at the hospital in the waiting room, and there were other pregnant women too crying, and everything, and I wanted to cry so much too, because I will never be able to give birth. I'm still so sad.

Well, it's not like I want to get pregnant soon, because I'm too young right now, but what if it will never be possible during my life span, and as far as I'm concerned, it will never be a natural thing anyway, and if it does I will probably be in 30 years or something and I'll be 48 which is kinda too old I guess, but who knows, but even later probably. Plus, IT WILL PROBABLY COST TOO MUCH DAMN MONEY.

Serena, over the last few weeks I've had to smile sweetly and be full of support for two women who proudly announced that they are expecting whilst a part of me wanted to run away to cry.
Cis women are leaving pregnancy till their 40's now so the concept of being too old is slowly crumbling for young women such as yourself.

Quote from: StrykerXIII on March 14, 2015, 12:56:46 PM
Jayne, you may just be my new favourite person. 

Aww shucks, I'm blushing now

It is showed that you can do it today, just most likely would die in the process.

Fetuses are parasites and live off the host.

Ok before you hate me. It is true all they need is a blood supply and they will divide.

Just having that womb as a protection between the host and the baby is the key.

There was a article I read a few years back on the subject.

Maybe one of my staff would find it in some research.

Anyway. All you need is a fertilized egg and some room in your stomach. Add some great 24/7 health care and maybe we will write a story about your journey.

Not going to hate on you! 

Quote from: mrs izzy on March 14, 2015, 01:32:47 PM
It is showed that you can do it today, just most likely would die in the process.

Fetuses are parasites and live off the host.

Ok before you hate me. It is true all they need is a blood supply and they will divide.

Just having that womb as a protection between the host and the baby is the key.

There was a article I read a few years back on the subject.

Maybe one of my staff would find it in some research.

Anyway. All you need is a fertilized egg and some room in your stomach. Add some great 24/7 health care and maybe we will write a story about your journey.

I love that outlook!

Hugs, Devlyn

I think that it will be possible, but never with a natural birth, but a C Section.  I agree that it isn't if but when.  Would be a dream come true, but not one I think I will see in my lifetime.

Well I saw on wikipedia that it did happen and a cis woman did give birth using an uterus from a deceased person, and that there are requirements for people to get this procedures, and one of them is to be born a woman genetically. So, for us it's not possible yet.

You're all a bit behind the curve. The first term pregnancy from a transplanted uterus was delivered just a few months ago and made headlines in numerous medical journals. So technically its already possible if you had a willing donor. However before you get too excited this was a "mother daughter" transplant.

The real money is on stem cell tissue regeneration, coupled with a bit of gene activation and deactivation (methylation) to form an allotransplantable organ - combine that with more stem cell work to form synthetic gametes - and with the help of a huge laboratory and several million pounds you could probably have a stab it it even now.

All the individual building blocks have already been demonstrated in principle at least - what hasnt been done, and indeed probably won't be for some while, is to put them all together and then let the resultant embryo develop to term.

Oh and actually its not strictly speaking true to say you have to be a woman genetically either - A separate recent case involved an AIS XY female who, by luck had had MIH deficiency and so still had the mullererian ductal tissue, and with the help of some careful hormonal manipulation manged to give birth to a healthy daughter.

I'd guess its certainly no more than 60 years away, and I personally expect it to happen with 25.

I am optimistic that it will happen in the next 5-10 years.

However the religious establishment and the moral gender police will do their best to keep it from happening.

I really hope so.... medical science is amazing so I am sure it will be possible someday.

It does hurt me, that I am unable to give my man a child someday.. I would really like to fall pregnant with child and carry it to term.. to feel it growing inside me.. must be amazing. ok as m2f transsexual there is no way I would be able to give natural birth..due to our hip bone configuration.. (remember HRT does not change Bone structure) but a C section will be fine.

A friend of mine and her hubby are going to start trying for a baby, it gonna be tuff to see her grow and knowing I cant do the same.. 

I am only 25.. so if its possible in say 10 years.. I will only be 35.. I will still be young enough to have a child.

It might someday be possible. I just saw a posting where the first successful penis transplant (fully functional after 3 months) was performed in South Africa.

Quote from: noleen111 on March 16, 2015, 10:06:29 AM
I really hope so.... medical science is amazing so I am sure it will be possible someday.

It does hurt me, that I am unable to give my man a child someday.. I would really like to fall pregnant with child and carry it to term.. to feel it growing inside me.. must be amazing. ok as m2f transsexual there is no way I would be able to give natural birth..due to our hip bone configuration.. (remember HRT does not change Bone structure) but a C section will be fine.

A friend of mine and her hubby are going to start trying for a baby, it gonna be tuff to see her grow and knowing I cant do the same.. 

I am only 25.. so if its possible in say 10 years.. I will only be 35.. I will still be young enough to have a child.

My wife was 42 when she had ours and she had a risky multiple birth too. Age matters but not as much anymore.

I believe it is technically possible with a transplanted uterus and a donor egg.  Might be some rejection difficulties.  I think that could be done today ($$$$) and it may have been done.  (I recall an earlier post with reference saying it had been done.)

Two sperm and a donor egg with the nucleolus pulled out - possibly 5-10 years.

Growing your own uterus? Best guess is 10+ years and possibly longer.

Hugs,

Jen

I don't think this is going to happen, ever. The woman with XY androgen insensitivity had a uterus which grew strong enough, with HRT, to handle a pregnancy but they had to use donor eggs. Most XY people do not have a uterus and most natal men aren't particularly interested in getting pregnant, and people forget we even exist, so they won't bother. Natal women would always be first on the list. You would have to have lots of money for someone to experiment something like this but seriously think about the baby!!! It is so dangerous and they could die at any moment from complicatiobs. It is too damn risky.

I would love to be a mom, but there is no way this is going to happen in the near future and I wouldn't want to subject the baby to such horrid experimentating. When this becomes possible, if at all, young trans girls will be too old to have kids. I will prolly be like 78 or something. I will be happy with adoption. There are so many kids that need a loving home.

Nope sorry Autoramarianna read it again - I know of the case pretty well, they did NOT use donor eggs. The eggs were "harvested" but from her - and then induced to develop invitro. She had a trace of unmigrated gamete progenitor cells from which they managed to stimulate ovum development.

THAT is precisely what made it so exciting - if you think it was done with "donor" eggs then sadly you missed the whole point.

(Ps - As a medical student my information source was a medical journal so it is possible the article I read contained more detail than was in the populist press.)

And as I said in my earlier post I know with pretty well certainty that all the parts of this are already medically possible including the creation of an artifical uterus. The case above just happens to be the closest we've come so far, but as JLT1 (I believe also someone who works in the medical field) says it won't be long. Lets put it this way... I'm just one medical student at one medical school in the UK... even at my school we have people working on things like this, and they aren't on their own... there are teams across the world working on it. Go figure.

Perhaps I'm an optimist, but I think the day will come and I think it may be possible within 30 years. The advances being made in life sciences, particularly stem cell research combined with advances in genetics, combined with quantum computing being applied to genome mapping means humanity will make leaps and bounds in medicine...

if we don't blow ourselves up...
or cook our cradle...
or choke ourselves as we continue to fill it with filth...

If survive to make our home among the stars, there will come a day when pregnancy may be something even cis-women don't deal with. Children may be tubed in birthing centers instead of being carried to term biologically.