SwedenMtF...
I think Scandinavians are the some of the most beautiful people on the planet. You're no exception. Your face is already very androgynous, a year on HRT, you're going to be even more stunning...Your weight to height ratio is a bit of a worry though... For the HRT to work, you need to have something for it to work on. You're too light at the moment and you BMI is too low. Eat some delicious European chocolate

Ok, beautiful folks.  I've lost about 20 pounds or so since I first uploaded a picture (right after I joined).  A lot of the brutish features I didn't like I think were due to my weight.  I'm still pre-HRT so I know a lot will change (going to get electrolysis, as well).  I've already decided to use it as my avatar but here it is, anyway.

What effects do you think HRT will have on my jaw/chin area?  Just filling it out would be handy maybe.  In your experiences with HRT, does a lot of the sharper testosterone-poisoned edges smooth out beyond just the cheeks?

Is there hope?

Abysha,
You have lovely eyes. HRT will (not for sure but probably) soften a lot of your features. It will change the texture of your skin, soften your jawline, fill your cheeks into a more feminine shape. Nothing is for sure but, I think you'll have really nice results after a few years. A lot of people see result earlier but, realistically hrt takes a few years to really make a big difference. Lighten your lip colour. Darker colour works great on some  face shapes, on others it adds "weight" visually and can draw attention to discolouration caused by sub dermal hairs (beard shadow)

Abysha, you have a pretty decent start. Shape the brows and see what that does for you.

^^^this

Eyebrow threading changes lives. True fact.

Thanks for the feedback.  Threading the brows is actually lined up so that's good to hear.   

Quote from: Isabelle on March 19, 2015, 06:07:27 PM
SwedenMtF...
I think Scandinavians are the some of the most beautiful people on the planet. You're no exception. Your face is already very androgynous, a year on HRT, you're going to be even more stunning...Your weight to height ratio is a bit of a worry though... For the HRT to work, you need to have something for it to work on. You're too light at the moment and you BMI is too low. Eat some delicious European chocolate

Thank you so much for the kind words Isabella. I know my weight is a problem due to the fat distribution.. there's basically no fat to distribute differently.. But since I started hormones a month ago, I've been feeling more hungry so hopefully I gain some weight!

fat redistribution doesnt actually move any fat that you have on ur body. you just gain weight in new areas. so sweeden its actually good to start out skinny because it is common to gain weight after hrt. so i really wouldnt worry about it to much.

Quote from: SwedenMtf on March 20, 2015, 03:44:08 AM
Thank you so much for the kind words Isabella. I know my weight is a problem due to the fat distribution.. there's basically no fat to distribute differently.. But since I started hormones a month ago, I've been feeling more hungry so hopefully I gain some weight!

I've been doing everything I can to pass better-I'm trying to grow my hair out, I've gained a few pounds to widen my figure, but I feel like now I'm looking even more masculine than ever. 

I've sorta come to the conclusion that if I'm never going to pass, perhaps I'm not emotionally prepared to continue living authentically.  I mean, I have no friends, virtually no support, and if I can't pass, things are going to continue to be harder than I want to deal with.  My relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell.  I can't deal with our transphobic culture right now, and it's driving me literally insane.  So, I've realized that if I am never going to pass for cis, I'm going to seriously consider going back.  I feel like my face is getting even more masculine as time goes on.  So, please, I beg of you-be honest.  Please, be brutally honest.  The amount of dishonesty I've seen on this thread is troubling; I'm not looking for emotional support.  I'm considering a major life decision, and I need FACTS if I'm going to make it correctly.  I'm wearing light makeup in three of the four pictures; in the fully body one, my hair is wet.  I'm six feet tall, very tall.  Too tall. 









Again, please be honest.  This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.

Going public round two...... I have my therapist appointment in a couple hours and again I'm shaking I'm so nervous because this time I'm in girl mode as much I can for now. I desperately need laser removal for my face and my eyebrows done. Beyond that am I at least okay?

Androgynous......
Actually looking very feminine already.  The pics show a more female looking person to me. I can actually see your curves in the one pic. Six foot is tall, but women are sometimes tall too. If your clothes are very feminine, skirts, pink, lavender, stockings, it all screams female to people.
Your voice and your mannerisms could give you away, but if you have that going in the right direction, you will be fine. Patience is huge it takes time. Are you on hrt? It should keep rounding you and softening your features some, also as hair continues to grow, chest increases you will get more feminine as you go. Your already very skinny so no overly stud features like big arms or shoulders. I do think you can pass. Just remember turning back can't be from embarrassment or pressure from others, it has to be because you feel like your not a woman. If you are female inside, it will always be there, its hard to deny. Don't give up, try getting support locally from others near you, it could help. I hope my honestly helps you, I'm not trying to make you feel good, just trying to give you an honest opinion from your pics. If you do feel good I hope it's from support and love you get from the forum. The future can always be brighter. Hope this helps.
Love Stephee

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
I've been doing everything I can to pass better-I'm trying to grow my hair out, I've gained a few pounds to widen my figure, but I feel like now I'm looking even more masculine than ever. 

I've sorta come to the conclusion that if I'm never going to pass, perhaps I'm not emotionally prepared to continue living authentically.  I mean, I have no friends, virtually no support, and if I can't pass, things are going to continue to be harder than I want to deal with.  My relationship prospects, my potential for a career, all of it will go out the window if people are able to tell.  I can't deal with our transphobic culture right now, and it's driving me literally insane.  So, I've realized that if I am never going to pass for cis, I'm going to seriously consider going back.  I feel like my face is getting even more masculine as time goes on.  So, please, I beg of you-be honest.  Please, be brutally honest.  The amount of dishonesty I've seen on this thread is troubling; I'm not looking for emotional support.  I'm considering a major life decision, and I need FACTS if I'm going to make it correctly.  I'm wearing light makeup in three of the four pictures; in the fully body one, my hair is wet.  I'm six feet tall, very tall.  Too tall. 









Again, please be honest.  This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.

I think that you would need FFS to be able to achieve your goals, and maybe you would benefit from a higher dose of estrogen or maybe a different route of administration like pellet or patch for example.  No one can tell you if you should detranstion or not, it's something that you have to decide for yourself.  I detransitioned once, I changed my name back to my birthname, and cut my hair, which was extremely painful to do, but I remained on HRT, because my plan was to retransition again when I could do it successfully.  And I did it! sometimes you need to take a step back in order to be able get to where you need to be. 

Androgynous,

As no one can look like someone else but to relate a look to someone I would say I see some of the young Molly Ringwald meets Cyndi Lauper

That's my view,

Androgynous

I think with FFS you will unquestionably look female because you have an already androgynous starting point. This is a better starting place than a lot of us.

Your full body shot seems to show off a more squarish jaw and chin which the closeup pictures seem to hide a bit more(maybe its the angle ??)but maybe more time on HRT will soften that a but

It does read slightly more masculine to me, but you really have that high fashion supermodel androgynous look, which i think can allow you to go either way.

If it was solely based on how you look I would say you are ahead of the game and I wouldn't DE transition if I had your looks. We are all our own worst critique so I know how you feel. I'm on day two of HRT and I feel like I'm never going to pass. My only piece of hope is FFS and I may not even go full time until I can have the surgeries.

Quote from: Jasriella on March 20, 2015, 01:32:55 PM
Going public round two...... I have my therapist appointment in a couple hours and again I'm shaking I'm so nervous because this time I'm in girl mode as much I can for now. I desperately need laser removal for my face and my eyebrows done. Beyond that am I at least okay?

I think the wig and your beard shadow will bee a big tell if you are trying to pass.

try for natural hair and remove facial hair. These things take time though, so like me I have to be really patient to get my desired look.

Quote from: Jasriella on March 20, 2015, 01:32:55 PM
Going public round two...... I have my therapist appointment in a couple hours and again I'm shaking I'm so nervous because this time I'm in girl mode as much I can for now. I desperately need laser removal for my face and my eyebrows done. Beyond that am I at least okay?

Yeah, the beard needs to go.  It totally gives you away.  BUT, I think without the beard, you'll look great.  You actually look like a gg friend of mine.  Although you're probably taller.  [emoji1] [emoji106]

Quote from: ChiGirl on March 20, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
Yeah, the beard needs to go.  It totally gives you away.  BUT, I think without the beard, you'll look great.  You actually look like a gg friend of mine.  Although you're probably taller.  [emoji1] [emoji106]

Like I said I desperately need laser hair removal because THAT IS JUST SHAVED!!! Like literally 10 minute before I took the picture! It drives me insane because my facial hair is so thick, the hairs themselves are very visible even immediately after shaving in both directions and being completely smooth. And yeah, I'm 6'2" 220lbs. I do like the sweater with the shirt on me it's comfy and from neck down anyway who could tell right? Lol

Any suggestions on a budget friendly wig that would work for me? This one is wild and untamed....and been assaulted by a kitty a few times. The wig has gone FERAL!!!

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 20, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
Again, please be honest.  This time isn't about feeling good about myself, it's about weather or not I should detransition.

Honey, you are asking for honest opinions.

IHMO, with HRT and some additional padding, you are going to be just killer. You have so many things going for you that you are discounting.

For example, your face has wonderful feminine curves and angles, your eyes are amazing, and your figure is really cute right now. I think you could model today.

I don't usually comment much in this thread, but I do think you have a lot to work with and you're being way too critical of yourself.

Hugs!

I've been on hrt for two years

And ffs.  ->-bleeped-<-.  I'm never going to see that much money in my life.

I decided I wanted to look pretty today. I hope I pass well enough. I've been on HRT for almost 6 months now.