I have locked this topic, I am ashamed those who attempted to make this into so much more than it was. I also feel that this continuing ->-bleeped-<- debate has the potential to divide the community and that is something I will not allow to happen. I strongly suggest that you do not make me make this a rule.
There are only two sexes, there I said it. Bad me right? Wrong. Notice I specified sex, not gender! For society sex is and always will be binary. Male, Female, Boy, Girl. We are not going to change that no matter what some of our community members might wish.
Severe GID required for GRS as defined by the medical community does not and can not apply to non-TS's. If you are a MTF transsexual then keeping a penis is not a desired option. It might not be possible to have it removed at the current time, but that doesn't stop the need to have it gone.
If you want to keep that part of your body then YOU likely are NOT a MTF Transsexual. If you feel the need to pretend that you are, we will humor you until you figure it out on your own, hopefully before it's too late... It's the same courtesy that we give TS's who wish to say they are CD. (not saying all CD's are secretly TS or anything) The ICD-10 gives us a possiblity:
Dual-role Transvestism (F64.1
has three criteria:
1.The individual wears clothes of the opposite sex in order to experience temporary membership in the opposite sex;
2.There is no sexual motivation for the cross-dressing;
3.The individual has no desire for a permanent change to the opposite sex.
->-bleeped-<-
I do not want the term used here. What Steph said specifically said was "she male". While you may think this is splitting hairs, I know Steph, she did not use it in a derogatory form. Anyone assuming that was the case, is putting their spin on Steph's use of the phrase and the negative reflection is theirs, not hers.
The word is valid, I would still prefer it not be used on this site.
Main Entry: she-male
Part of Speech: n
Definition: a genetic male who has both male and female characteristics; a male who has undergone surgical feminization
Usage: derogatory slang
Androgyny
The essence of Androgyny is the blending of gender to the point of being genderless. A person who is truly androgynous will not try to be either male or female but something in between. That brings me to the most important point. Every one of us will always be part male and part female. This is the essence of Yin-Yang. You can try to quash it but it won't work. Accepting that will make coming to terms with yourself that much easier.
I think many of the people here proclaim themselves to be androgynous are using it as a cop out. A refusal to deal with their gender issues. Only time will tell if I am right or not.
That doesn't mean I can't offer people who identify as Androgynes a place for support. But at the same time by offering the support area I don't give up the right to have my own opinions on the matter. Steph is entitled to that same courtesy. I for the most part keep them to my self, but it's not required.
Community Definitions
These are some of the terms used by our community as they apply to this site. I hope that you find them acceptable. If not then I encourage you to either find another site more to your liking, or start your own.
Transgender: an inclusive umbrella term which covers anyone who transcends their birth gender for any reason. This includes but is not limited to Androgynies, Crossdressers, Drag kings, Drag queens, Intersexuals, Transsexuals, and ->-bleeped-<-s.
Androgyne: a person who does not fit cleanly into the typical gender roles of their society. Androgyne have a unique gender identity which is not of the traditional genders of male or female. Androgyne may identify as beyond gender, between genders, moving across genders, entirely genderless, and as any combination or all of these.
Crossdresser: a person wears the clothing of the opposite gender, and has no desire to permanently change their sex. There is generally no sexual motivation for the cross-dressing.
Drag kings: performers, usually gay women or transgendered men - who dress in "drag," clothing associated with the male gender, usually highly exaggerated versions thereof. Drag kings often do drag to perform, singing or lip-syncing and dancing, participating in events such as gay pride parades, cabarets, discotheques, and other celebrations and venues.
Drag queens: performers, usually gay men or transgendered women - who dress in "drag," clothing associated with the female gender, usually highly exaggerated versions thereof. Drag queens often do drag to perform, singing or lip-syncing and dancing, participating in events such as gay pride parades, cabarets, discotheques, and other celebrations and venues.
Intersexual: a person born with the full or partial sex organs of both sexes; with underdeveloped or ambiguous sex organs; a sex chromosome karyotype other than XX or XY; or sex hormone receptor problems which prevent normal absorption of Estrogen or Androgens. Intersexual persons may seek to make their body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatments.
Significant other: for the purpose of this site, someone close to a person who is transgender. This may be a mother, father, son, daughter, sister, brother, family member, husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, or friend.
Transsexual: a person who is mentally one gender, but has the body of the other. They desire to live and be accepted as a member of the mental gender, this is generally accompanied by the strong desire to make their body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatments.
->-bleeped-<-: a person who wears the clothing of the opposite gender, and has no desire to permanently change their sex. There is generally a strong sexual motivation for the cross-dressing.
