http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/brazil-trans-woman-stripped-shaved-and-disfigured-police-beating170415

A Brazilian transgender woman was stripped and had her head shaved and face disfigured in a brutal police beating.

This is the worst thing I've ever seen not involving the death of a trans person.

"Brazil is the most dangerous place on Earth to be transgender. Last year, 113 trans people were murdered in the country, half of all reported trans murders in the world."

Wow. For some reason I thought they were more accepting over there. Guess not. That is some scary ish

Brazil is in the moment a dangerous place for every one.  and only someone who lived there knows also some things others don't. In Brasil there are more Travesties then transexuals and most of those Travesties can be very dangerous and disrespectful believe me.

Quote from: Brasileira on April 18, 2015, 11:11:12 AM
Brazil is in the moment a dangerous place for every one.  and only someone who lived there knows also some things others don't. In Brasil there are more Travesties then transexuals and most of those Travesties can be very dangerous and disrespectful believe me.

No offense, do you mean transvestites or travesties?

Here trans people don't have the most basic rights respected... usually poor trans women...

It is very usual to watch the news and see trans women being referred as men. Not just on TV, but on every kind of newspaper, they just love to expose a trans woman, reveal her registry name, use masculine pronouns when referring to her... and usually trans people here are shown in the midia only as criminals, dangerous people or exotic beings that change sex...

Indeed there are a lot of trans women that work on the sex market here (a lot of them call themselves transvestites), and they are also shown on the news as dangerous people, criminals... Often they are arrested and tortured by the police... and sometimes they are killed by the people that wants them only to sex... they can be dangerous indeed, because the society made them that way...

When a trans woman is arrested here, they shave her head, they give her masculine clothes, they only talk to her as "he" and call only by her registry name. A trans woman doesn't have her gender respected at all... she can't take hormones and she can't have make-up inside jail... and the worse is that she is thrown together with men! Many are raped and serve as fun for the criminals....

Here in Brazil the only trans women that have a chance are the ones like me. I know I am lucky... I was born on a mid class family that accepted me as I am, I have a good education, a home, a car... some friends... I am already changing my name on the documents, I had FFS and I hope to have SRS soon...

And that because passability is a thing here that can mean the difference between dying or being alive.

People don't stare at me or mistreat me... I am seen as a woman... and because of this I don't suffer the same destiny that poorer trans women that aren't passable or have to work on the sex market... I confess: I have never suffered for being a trans woman until now... I just lost some friends, but that's all...

For me and mid class trans women, we have a different reality... perhaps closer to the reality seen in other more developed countries...  but the majority of trans women and transvetites here suffer like hell... many don't know or don't have the ways to change their name and gender on the documents... the process is burocratic... the waiting for a specialist in gender disphoria is enormous.... and there are just a few in the entire country... just a few states.

(sorry, my english is a bit rusty)

Quote from: TransSasha on April 18, 2015, 12:27:37 PM
No offense, do you mean transvestites or travesties?

"Travesties" is the portuguese word for transgendered people.
In Brazil, most people don't really know the distinction between transsexual and transvestite.

Not letting my girlfriend go to Brazil anytime soon!!!

Now on days many people know already the difference between transvestite and transsexual, and yes transvestite can be very very dangerous usually they use very offensive words and also envious the transsexuals, sometimes they ask theirs pimp to cut the face of others they envie, apply injection with HIV infected blood or ask them to seduce someone only to have the chance of doing something bad,  of course there are many decent transvestite but unfortunately the majority we see at the street are not, about being poor I guess it can help they being how they are but many  poor Twomen were very poor as children but today are very good people but sometimes the only way they have is prostitution without it they have no place to live, eat or sleep, the society make them monsters they are obligated to learn to defend their selves since childhood, going to school or finding a decent work is almost impossible for them. passability or having money really matters  there in Brazil.

South America is generally behind the times, the transphobic statistics being a reflection of that.

Horrendous! 

India is somewhat better than Brazil in trans inclusiveness, though the situation is similar

International pressure might help in mending the ways of transphobic  countries.

In Brazil they are not all really transphobic, there you can see trans people everywhere and most of them are good "accepted ", normally trans women are much more discrete than transvestite and this cause lots of misunderstanding transvestite generally in Brazil dresses very vulgar with giant breast and silicon all over the body with very little cloths and this can shock some people cause it looks like a live porn, but like everywhere some people don't like gay/trans people but every day there are more and more and people start to get used to it,  and yes there is a lot of place where trans people get help and medical assistance for free. the problem in Brazil is that depends on where you are it can be dangerous not only for trans people but anyone, but anyway a very nice country and I love it.

Here people have this distinction... transvestites consider themselves a third gender... they don't see themselves as women at all, and not as men either. They are like a third gender... a very sexualized one by the way.

I also see this as a way to separate social groups....

While trans folk are seem as middle class people, transvestites are almost always poor and marginalized.

While trans women dress as almost every other women... transvestites dress in a very sexualized way... well, almost all of them are in the sex industry, so... that's why. As Brasileira said, usually they use industrial silicon on their bodies... and end with giant breasts, very wide hips and huge buttocks...

While trans people want to blend in, to be seem as a woman... transvestites are always spotted... they don't care about passability... they just want to look sexy.

And society here is very transphobic.... because they have on their minds the idea that all trans women are like transvestites. If you blend in, that's ok and you will be treated as every other woman... but if you are spotted... people will think you are a gay man dressing as woman and that only for luring men to your nest. People will think you are a criminal, a sex worker, a gay man...

And this is very sad, because this is not fault of the transvestites... they are not in the sex industry because they like it... but because of the image society have and because society closes every door to transvestites.

Transvestites don't have a good education, don't have enough money, don't have opportunities... the only thing that is left for them is to learn to survive in the streets! And they learn to be violent so they can defend themselves... they learn to look sexy because that's what their profession needs of them...

They are the transgendered people who suffers the most here in Brazil.

People like me and perhaps Brasileira (by the way, where do you live?) are in a very different scenario... but I can't stop to feel disgusted and revolted because of the treatment society offers to transvestites here....

Hello Natalia,  I live in Austria, and the difference here about transgender people is "gritante ". only the beginning;  when you get papers from your therapy which proves that you are Trans and you can start hormones with this same paper you can change your first name and the sex in your documents and they also provide many types of esthetic procedures absolutely free, one box Androcur here costs 5.40 € also the estrogen in gel so you pay 10.80€ per month for your treatment.

Quote from: KarinMcD on April 20, 2015, 03:04:40 PM
"Travesties" is the portuguese word for transgendered people.
In Brazil, most people don't really know the distinction between transsexual and transvestite.

aaah thanks

Police are getting a bit out of control. Militia like.  It is simply escalating out of control. 


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This is terrible. The photo of her and the photo after the beating is almost unrecognizable.