Quote from: Jaimey on November 17, 2007, 05:39:19 PM


Posted on: November 17, 2007, 06:31:12 PM

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I have a question.  Do you all tend to be self deprecating?

I made a self deprecating joke a few weeks ago and the girl I was with said, "why would you say that about yourself?"  I was really taken aback and I wondered if that sort of humor is actually bad for one's self esteem.  I know why I'm self deprecating, I just didn't realize that I shouldn't be (if I shouldn't be...I don't think I can change that at this point in my life). 

Anyway, I was just curious.  I'm not suggesting that self deprecation is trait caused by being androgyne, but that it is possibly a trait common among androgyne people that we develop because of shame/self loathing/societal pressure/etc.

That's a good question.  I have been self deprecating for most of my life.  Even now when I feel very good and confident about myself I tend to self deprecate.  I don't know if it's a habit now, or if I am trying to show others that I do not take myself too seriously.  In a way, I would like people to get the impression that someone can be confident and still make jokes at their own expense.
        I also don't really feel very confident in using terminolgy suach as - "I can do that, no problem!!"


Rebis

Quote from: Rebis on November 17, 2007, 06:16:29 PM


        I also don't really feel very confident in using terminolgy suach as - "I can do that, no problem!!"

Me too!  That particular line has gotten me into bad situations...like marketing positions...ugh. 

I think I use self deprecation to show people that I can laugh at myself too...and maybe so they won't get mad at me when I laugh at them.  Because I will.   

Well, I actually have a formal diagnosis as having Peter Pan Syndrome (my brain/psyche/whatever just stopped maturing around 10-11), so I always felt that my child-like qualities were related to that, along with my childishness.

Quote from: Rebis on November 17, 2007, 06:16:29 PM
In a way, I would like people to get the impression that someone can be confident and still make jokes at their own expense.

I feel this way, too, and that's why I have a bit of a self-deprecating tendency, in spite of my rather large and sensitive pride. o.0

I didn't know that there was an actual diagnosis of Peter Pan Syndrome.  You learn something new everyday!  This might be intrusive, but if you still see the professional that made that diagnosis, you could ask them if it is related to being androgyne.  That would be pretty interesting if that professional knew anything about it. 

I'm really interested in the psychology/neurology of all of this.  Maybe I should go back to school and do research on this...don't hold your breath though. 

Quote from: Jaimey on November 17, 2007, 06:20:04 PM

Quote from: Rebis on November 17, 2007, 06:16:29 PM
        I also don't really feel very confident in using terminolgy suach as - "I can do that, no problem!!"

Me too!  That particular line has gotten me into bad situations...like marketing positions...ugh. 

I think I use self deprecation to show people that I can laugh at myself too...and maybe so they won't get mad at me when I laugh at them.  Because I will.  

Me too!    This is getting weird or spooky 

Posted on: November 17, 2007, 08:11:06 PM

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Quote from: Jaimey on November 17, 2007, 06:46:22 PM
...don't hold your breath though. 

Hey!  Don't tell me what to do!! 





(i'm kidding)

Indeed.  I often feel like you're reading my mind.  *Twilight Zone Theme*

I know!  I can be The Uber Androgyne's sidekick, since we seem to think alike. (That's right. I've made you into a superhero-type person on one of these threads...I don't remember which one though...)

Quote from: Jaimey on November 17, 2007, 06:20:04 PM
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Quote from: Jaimey on November 17, 2007, 06:46:22 PM
...don't hold your breath though. 

Hey!  Don't tell me what to do!! 
(i'm kidding)

Heh...

I'll bring it up when we next meet. ^^

Quote from: Milo on November 17, 2007, 07:20:45 PM
I'll bring it up when we next meet. ^^

That would be awesome! 

I'd say I have a lot of confidence in myself but I'm very shy when I'm presenting myself to others.  That's sociological.  I spent so much of my childhood unconsciously learning that my androgyny was bad and it's only been in the past year I've been shaking that off.

Quote from: Simon on November 18, 2007, 06:15:10 PM
I'd say I have a lot of confidence in myself but I'm very shy when I'm presenting myself to others. 

ooo...that's me to a T.

Quote from: Jaimey on November 22, 2007, 01:33:41 AM

Quote from: Simon on November 18, 2007, 06:15:10 PM
I'd say I have a lot of confidence in myself but I'm very shy when I'm presenting myself to others. 

ooo...that's me to a T.

i'm the other way round

Wow, I never really thought of it this way. Where several of you mentioned the "child-like" tendencies. Well it does make a lot of sense now to me.

I've always considered myself really intuitive and perceptive of other peoples feelings. For those of you familiar with the Myers-Briggs test I'm an INFP. (Which is quite accurate IMO).

Oh and, huge check on the procrastination! Sadly I can't seem to get up enough gumption for a lot of things I should have done by now (drivers license and occupation training being the major things).

I'm glad I decided to read this thread, it gave me something to think about that I didn't consider before.

Hi, Phate,
Well ya just found one of those with the child like tendencies. My personality can vary from innocent to very mischievous, but never truly seeking to do any harm to anyone.

I can feel peoples' pain and sadness, even from great distances, I also posses some psychic abilities.  There are times when I know someone who needs to be warned of impending disaster but I cannot succeed in doing that. Too many times I have had a bad experience if I did so. Now I just go into profound emotions within and send the emotions back out to the universe as healing energy.

As for procrastination, the only thing that gets procrastinated here is the house cleaning.

 

Snap with the INFP, I think we did a poll a while ago for Briggs Myers types, if we didn't we should.

INTP here.

I agree about the self-depreciating humor.  I laugh at everyone else, so why not myself?  I've always felt that if you are going to dish it out, you better be able to take it.  Besides, the times I get in the most trouble are when I take myself too seriously.

I do, however, still use the "I can do that" terminology, and have no problem with it (provided it is true).  It is the "I can't" mentality that I have problems understanding.

Child-like?  How do you know?  I don't have any idea what is like to be "mature" or "grown up".

......Laurry

Hi Laurry
"Hee,hee,hee."Welcome to the Id's club.
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Cindy

I'm more, I'll give it a go terminology.

Quote from: Pica Pica on December 05, 2007, 07:25:37 AM
I'm more, I'll give it a go terminology.

Me too usually. But it's situational.