Quote from: Berliegh on November 15, 2007, 05:02:30 AM
I struggle to get fat into my face and it remains too thin and boney.

From all the pics I've seen you have the right fat distribution on your face, your cheeks are well defined.  You have one of the most feminine and, if I may say so, pretty faces of anybody around here.

Quote from: Andra on November 16, 2007, 08:59:29 AM

Quote from: Berliegh on November 15, 2007, 05:02:30 AM
I struggle to get fat into my face and it remains too thin and boney.

From all the pics I've seen you have the right fat distribution on your face, your cheeks are well defined.  You have one of the most feminine and, if I may say so, pretty faces of anybody around here.

I'm surprised you say that. My face hasn't changed much over the years and looked the same before I started on hormones. My flat mate who lives at my house keeps telling me my face looks male?

I always thought I didn't look that bad and I think my nose and mouth is quite good but I've got a long way to go yet.

Quote from: Berliegh on November 16, 2007, 11:51:51 AM
I'm surprised you say that. My face hasn't changed much over the years and looked the same before I started on hormones.

Well, then maybe the reason it didn't change much was because it was *already* female?

QuoteMy flat mate who lives at my house keeps telling me my face looks male?

IMHO, the only valid test is The Public. If strangers consistent call you "miss," then you must look female, ya know?

~Kate~

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IMHO, the only valid test is The Public. If strangers consistent call you "miss," then you must look female, ya know?

~Kate~

Absolutely

aye, people who know you fail at seeing the difference, same way we do...
R

Quote from: Rachael on November 16, 2007, 12:19:00 PM
aye, people who know you fail at seeing the difference, same way we do...
R

That's true..

I didn't imagine the monster that my post would start.

I've finally gotten the time to do a less angled shot of my face, hopefully this works better (though it still looks bad...).



Can't wait until I start HRT. It's like waiting for Christmas...

I think you already have some feminine features --- hopefully HRT will blend these.

Daisy

You don't need much to look feminine, I suggest to take care your hair, maybe fake eyelashes helps you to, make some good make up and voi laaaa!!! I don't think the face is an issue here.

you do realise that for a young person, loads of makeup and false eyelashes etc just make you look more um, fake?
personally cire, you look ok, sort your facial hair, nuke your eyebrows, grow your hair, and youll look quite nice

R

Quote from: Cire on November 18, 2007, 01:13:56 PM
I didn't imagine the monster that my post would start.

I've finally gotten the time to do a less angled shot of my face, hopefully this works better (though it still looks bad...).



Can't wait until I start HRT. It's like waiting for Christmas...

HRT is not going to help your jaw much, other than that, your features are workable. But I would need clinical photos to judge, forehead, brow bossing etc..

Posted on: November 19, 2007, 08:13:59 PM

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Quote from: Rachael on November 14, 2007, 04:48:29 AM
ffs sure helps, although i was in a club last night, hair plastered to my head, and passed fine, no ffs.... infact i got wolfwhistled when i left... so ffs isnt some necesery proceedure like grs...
R

I think its all relative.  For someone that "needs" FFS, they might feel the same way about GRS.  For others, simply having the right face might be more important then having the right genitals (other threads have already beat this to death).

Quoting overrides the ignore feature. A wolf whistle is almost a sure sign of being clocked.

Quote from: melissa90299 on November 19, 2007, 07:16:12 PM

A wolf whistle is almost a sure sign of being clocked.

Unfortunately that is true Melissa. 

i don't mean to steer you one way or another, but i think you could end up being rather cute and attractive.

what? a wolf whistle means your clocked?
in that case, any woman wolfwhistled is evidently clocked... sounds like nonsense to me...
dont put everyone in the same boat... i was walking out of a club, at half 1... guys whistle all the damn time to girls.... what makes you think they read me?
R

Quote from: Rachael on November 20, 2007, 11:30:38 AM
what? a wolf whistle means your clocked?

God I hope not. I got it once.. well, not loudly, but the same tones... when walking into a restaurant. At first I feared it was "look at the man in the dress!" (I interpret sneezing, yawning, and pretty much human gesturing in general as indications of my being read), but later figured it meant, "DAMN she's tall!"

~Kate~

Regardless of intent or meaning, the "wolf-whistle" is one of the most offensive verbal assaults a misogynistic male can direct toward a woman. And it astounds me that any woman could feel anything but extreme insult at the gesture. Once, I thought I heard a man in my support group wolf-whistle at me, I confronted him and he denied that it was directed at me and I believed him. Lucky for him because I was about to chop his balls off.

methinks you have the wrong end of the feminist stick Melissa....
i consider a wolf whistle or horn honk aproval of my attractiveness by men... that they find me pretty or attractive... i think nearly ALL women consider it a COMPLIMENT.... not that they clocked you...
true, passing  validation aside, women like to be validated as attractive females to thier potential mates...
if i asked any of my friends irl what they thought, i garuntee 99% would say it was annoying, but nice... hardly insulting, or that youve been 'clocked' if trans...
cutting his 'balls' off? id do that if he was extremely rude to me, but then, that takes a lot, and intentional nastness... complimenting me in one of the simplest male ways  is aiight by me..
R

Quote from: melissa90299 on November 20, 2007, 01:00:10 PM
... the "wolf-whistle" is one of the most offensive verbal assaults a misogynistic male can direct toward a woman. And it astounds me that any woman could feel anything but extreme insult at the gesture.

So what would you consider a honk and racing the engine with a glance over at you?  (This happened to me tonight.)

Kristi

Quote from: Rachael on November 20, 2007, 02:28:54 PM
methinks you have the wrong end of the feminist stick Melissa....
i consider a wolf whistle or horn honk aproval of my attractiveness by men... that they find me pretty or attractive... i think nearly ALL women consider it a COMPLIMENT.... not that they clocked you...
true, passing  validation aside, women like to be validated as attractive females to thier potential mates...
if i asked any of my friends irl what they thought, i garuntee 99% would say it was annoying, but nice... hardly insulting, or that youve been 'clocked' if trans...
cutting his 'balls' off? id do that if he was extremely rude to me, but then, that takes a lot, and intentional nastness... complimenting me in one of the simplest male ways  is aiight by me..
R

I am glad you take it as a compliment Rachael.  You have no problems passing and there is no need to justify to anyone.  Now for me on the other hand, it is a completely different ball game!  When I get whistled at, hoons toot etc. I know I am being read, it's as simple as that!  After I have FFS, I hope to see a different side of human nature. 
I don't have the courage to post my picture here yet for various reasons, I do somewhat live in stealth,  but I hope you take me as an honest person, as you stated earlier that you think people without pictures are somewhat dishonest?  I speak only of my personal experiences, and I do not take guys doing wheelies out front of my house, or yahooing at me, or beeping their horn every time they pass my place as a compliment.  As you can see by the situation I am in, I definitely have to move!!

buttercup   

i didnt say its dishonisty... i said those who do post them, i respect, those who dont post a headshot/person, i can understand thier feelings, those who post someone else, and try to SUGGEST or use it as them, i find dishonest. You, i can understand, as i was once in the same place....
R