Quote from: Jenna Marie on May 24, 2015, 04:09:14 PM
Nicky, I'm very sorry that happened to you, and it's no wonder you're having trust issues now.

I believe in "true love" mostly because I believe I've found it, so I'm hardly going to discount someone who uses their own experiences to draw conclusons the same way I have. (My wife stuck with me through transition and we've been together since we were teenagers, so I know I'm super lucky.)

Thanks Jenna & Laura_7.  It's been scaring with what I've gone through in my years of relationships... I've been abandoned, abused, tricked/lied to, given false hope/feeling of wanting & love.  So I dunno if I've been completely turned off from seeking relationships for the long run or I just need something to get me off this.  I'm wondering once I start HRT and get E into my system... if things may change that side of me.

I don't want to be a sourpuss about it all >3<!

Quote from: awilliams1701 on May 24, 2015, 11:42:02 PM
I've always found both men and women to be a mystery. I've found that male behavior is more disturbing though. I feel like I'm just starting to understand female behavior.

I think both men and women vary individually...

Men are more sexual than women.... or at least it seems.

Im a steriotypical woman...all I want is a man, food on the table, and a few good outlets..... BUT no!

Yes men are more sexual. I've been there and I get it. I'm grateful I'm no longer that way. However men are a lot more than just sex machines. There is the rude and obnoxious behavior. I don't nor have I ever understood.

Quote from: Wild Flower on May 25, 2015, 06:20:47 AM
I think both men and women vary individually...

Men are more sexual than women.... or at least it seems.

Im a steriotypical woman...all I want is a man, food on the table, and a few good outlets..... BUT no!

I can easily jump the fence and be 'one of the boys' when my mood suits.

Though with the things I can say, often I push *their* limits ... girls seem much less easily shocked :~D

Quote from: SarahBoo on May 25, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
I can easily jump the fence and be 'one of the boys' when my mood suits.

Though with the things I can say, often I push *their* limits ... girls seem much less easily shocked :~D

Lol, I like your style.

Got your point, I know how it was to be on T but... there are still limits. Somebody can be horny as hell but at the same time he may wish to bond with somebody (at least that was my case).

Moreover, he can be frank about his intentions and prevent others to build up empty hopes, and if it's needed, to go and pay for sex (damn, sex workers have to make a living too). So... meh, while understainable, many mens behaviours have no excuse.

Im not shock... but this is the 1st time I was in a conversation in which men were talking about sex graphically (something no guy does with me one on one conversation)...

I felt disgusted. It made it seem like women were objects for their disposal, objectified (hell... maybe women talk about this with guys).  They were saying size doesnt matter, their size, dont get it... it doesnt matter.

Even a guy I respected as a gentleman talk like this... he has a wife and daughters (so why?) His wife is so sweet to me... but Im not sure if he married her for her money (shes 10 yrs older, overweight/unhealthy, not pretty)... and hes not handsome but hes a fitness guy....

He once refer to his wife, "ill knock that bi***ch if she hits me".... which i dont think hell ever do....

He may be a master manipulator with women.... since he said youll have to sweet talk....

I dont know. I need a female to male perspective... lol. Since i dont think like this.... i respect women.

But you know what that guy never talk to me about sex/women, and he once skim over a gay topic with me. He likes me as a person but l think hes homophobic a bit.... (he doesnt know im trans; so he thinks one of the guy who had a crush on me was gay;; when in reality he wasnt gay but fell for my personality).

Like nearly all straight guys like my personality so no one talks about me like that. I think I come across manly enough...

well I definitely know what your talking about is true but I will say those needle in hay stacks exist and there not that inconspicuous... I was with my ex for eight months and it was definitely a relationship and wasn't all based on sex...he had a lot of issues though...my new bf is like the most hell bent guy on having a long term relationship that ends in marriage and wants that with me eventually...I was very skeptical and really thought if I did anything sexual he would move on to the next or just try to make the relationship all about sex but nope far from that type...anyways ya been talking for exactly a month and official for three weeks so hasn't been long but we talk all day everyday in text and the chemisty is great in person too...so don't fall into that self fulfilling prophecy of thinking zero men want or are open to something serious and long term...ive definitely been there and thought that but ive had no problem finding guys even preop for relationships...one thing I have noticed is many trans girls are super picky about like everything...you cant expect a regular guy to be as trans educated as like Laverne cox or something and on top of that I see so many preop girls who try to hide being trans for a long time and others who are way to dysphoric to want to have any kind of sex at all...if your doing any of those or are that dysphoric than a relationship at that point may not help...