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How do I deal with voice dysphoria?

Started by Makenzie, May 27, 2015, 02:32:31 PM

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Makenzie

I have tried everything and want at least my voice to pass :( It really bothered me to have a bass voice and nothing I can really do.
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Dena

Sadly I am in the same boat. I have pitch my voice moving it into my mouth but the best I have been able to do was get below the female range. One thing you can do if it's just day trips is fake voice problems and talk in a whisper. If you are living full time and the money is available, a speech therapist might draw out more usable range.

My reason for coming to this site was my voice. I am considering the surgical route but not only is it expensive, you still need to pitch your voice. The reason for this is men talk from their chest and women from their mouth. I don't know how much you know about this subject and if your voice has broke. If you are one of the lucky ones where the voice didn't break, you may have a good deal of upper range to work with. I saw a male singer on TV once who had a full 4 octaves of range. He sang in the low male range and then dressed as a woman and sung in the high range.

I had a very good teacher and I might be able to pass you a few useful tips to raise your voice but understand it will take a good deal of effort and the results might not be everything you want. The good thing is once mastered and used for a while, you forget how to use the lower range.
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synesthetic

I struggle with really bad voice dysphoria as well. Like Dena said, if you can afford/find one a speech therapist would be helpful. Just practicing a lot has helped me get my voice to be at least a little more where I want it (still working on it though)
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Dena

Quote from: synesthetic on May 30, 2015, 06:13:27 PM
I struggle with really bad voice dysphoria as well. Like Dena said, if you can afford/find one a speech therapist would be helpful. Just practicing a lot has helped me get my voice to be at least a little more where I want it (still working on it though)
synesthetic : I am way new to this web site and I get things wrong once in a while but if you are a FTM I may have a little something for you. Yesterday my neighbor was prodding me to hear my old voice. I haven't used that thing in 35 years so I have forgot how to used it. I got a little noise out of it and it was so low that she said don't do that again and i won't. The most important thing in the male voice is from your larynx up must be totally relaxed and that allows you to hit the lower ranges. Women and MTF have to keep that area above the larynx tight to generate the higher pitch. After the first time, I was giggling so hard I couldn't release the tension in my neck enough to hit that range again. The new voice is really locked in.
In addition in both cases you need to learn how to breath from the diaphragm by putting your hand on your stomach and sucking air in through your stomach. This gives you a far larger volume of air to work with and it's not as important with the male voice as it is with the female voice. I hope this is helpful.
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Laura_7

You could have a look here for a few hints:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,189191.msg1683308.html#msg1683308


Ftm people could have a look at
nyspeechandvoicelab dot net/transgender/voice-masculinization
for target levels and hints...
and you could try to speak a bit more monotone... less ups and downs of voice, and more direct language...
women tend to use more indirect language like would you... might... etc...


hugs
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synesthetic

Quote from: Dena on May 30, 2015, 06:31:00 PM
synesthetic : I am way new to this web site and I get things wrong once in a while but if you are a FTM I may have a little something for you. Yesterday my neighbor was prodding me to hear my old voice. I haven't used that thing in 35 years so I have forgot how to used it. I got a little noise out of it and it was so low that she said don't do that again and i won't. The most important thing in the male voice is from your larynx up must be totally relaxed and that allows you to hit the lower ranges. Women and MTF have to keep that area above the larynx tight to generate the higher pitch. After the first time, I was giggling so hard I couldn't release the tension in my neck enough to hit that range again. The new voice is really locked in.
In addition in both cases you need to learn how to breath from the diaphragm by putting your hand on your stomach and sucking air in through your stomach. This gives you a far larger volume of air to work with and it's not as important with the male voice as it is with the female voice. I hope this is helpful.
thank you! that's really helpful :)
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Dena

Quote from: synesthetic on June 01, 2015, 02:30:25 PM
thank you! that's really helpful :)
Your welcome. Don't forget to work on your breathing.
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