Quote from: V M on June 03, 2015, 06:31:48 PM
LOL... Agreed 

ditto

Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 03, 2015, 03:49:53 PM
It's true I don't wear a tight bun, I guess. Nobody in my area typically does (the teenage hair style is the high ponytail, the older women wear their hair loose or occasionally sprayed up). I do, however, wear my own hair long (nearly to my waist) and flowing loose, no "unrealistic, impractical hairstyle." Do what you like and think works for you! Which is kind of the advice in general - there's tons of fashion suggestions for all body types in women's magazines and online, including bodies which are boxy or short-legged or whatever.

But perhaps more to the point, there are masculinely-built cis women, and there are trans women with any "quintessentially feminine" feature you can name.

I always found putting my hair into tight buns to be a hassle to pin up when I was still working as a social worker so I mostly used a bow barrette that had a small decorative hair net attached.   All my hair was nicely tucked away and with the bow the result looked nicely femme.

I've always enjoyed shopping. Sewing clothes is fun too, I made a cute skirt over the weekend and then wore it to a party.

I shop every chance I get. It's an addiction.

I LOVE clothes. Love love love love it.

But iKate...
how do you REALLY feel about it?     

OP, if it makes you feel any better one of my ciswoman friends recently complained that she spent an entire day shopping and it was a failure because she couldn't find any shorts that she liked on her body.

Only thing I hate about shopping is the cost! I really want a nice pair of boots but at $90 its a little much.

Hi friends 

Let's stay on topic here, this is not an opinions on passing topic - This is the "anybody else Hates shopping for women's clothes topic"

Any further rude or argumentative remarks may result in penalties being issued 

Thank you

V M

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Hated shopping for men's clothes - love shopping for women's. Of course not a lot of it fits my frame due to my height but I've managed so far.

Quote from: Marly on June 04, 2015, 07:48:14 AM
But iKate...
how do you REALLY feel about it?     

Lol.

I find it relaxing. I try on stuff too.

Quote from: Ms Grace on June 05, 2015, 01:45:05 AM
Hated shopping for men's clothes - love shopping for women's. Of course not a lot of it fits my frame due to my height but I've managed so far.

Meh, mens clothes are just super boring to look at. Just curious how tall are you? I'm 6'3 and I'll admit I haven't worn a lot but it seems to fit me better then men's clothes oddly

Quote from: Ms Grace on June 05, 2015, 01:45:05 AM
Hated shopping for men's clothes - love shopping for women's. Of course not a lot of it fits my frame due to my height but I've managed so far.

I have the opposite "problem."

Pre HRT I could never find a pair of men's pants that fit me right. It would either be too tight around the butt or too loose around the waist so I would need a belt.

The first pair of women's jeans I started wearing regularly, size 8 Gloria Vanderbilt Amanda jeans, fit PERFECT. I since shifted to a size 6 which is nice too.

Shirts never really fit right either. I wore some baggy dress shirts as a result.Women's tops fitted me well and now with HRT that I have boobs and a concave waist they fit great.

A men's suit also looks ridiculous on me now. I look like one of those old ladies who works at a casino if I wear one.

I shop with my wife for women's clothes for her and wish that I could be shopping for women's clothes for me. However, have been able to shop with her for some matching women's plain pajamas and nightshirts (gowns). We have mostly tried them on in the men's fitting rooms, but a couple times in the women's fitting room when it was unattended and not crowded. It is a great feeling and I wish it could be more often and for other clothing items.

I've always loved it. Like I said before, I now just consider them clothes and not "womens clothes" if that makes any sense. Since I became passible and full time, it now even makes more sense for me to enjoy shopping, which is what i'm going to do later today! 

Quote from: teresita on June 02, 2015, 10:43:38 PM
It seems as if I am the ONLY one who hates, hates, hates shopping for clothes and shoes. Why? The reason, is pretty obvious. Women's clothes were made for women born with women bone structures. Now, someone will say that women come in all different sizes, shapes and colors, but there is a range, which is a feminine range. No matter how thin some of us become, we just have a different bone structure. So, shopping for clothes is the most horrible experience for me. I seem to be the only one, though. My therapist was shocked because she says that women love clothes, fashion, whereas I hate it. I would prefer to work over time, to clean my house, to vacuum the floor, but not to go shopping.

When the summer comes, it's even worse. At least, during the winter, you can camouflage what mother nature did. When the summer comes: forget it.

Did I say how much I hate shopping for clothes?

Hating shopping is just a symptom of the real problem, you hate yourself. It's pretty obvious from your posts on the first page of this thread.

I also noticed some other things going on with you between the lines but unless you honestly want some point blank feedback/insight/advice and are honestly ready or able to receive it, I'll just keep my mouth shut. Learned that lesson before. Not everyone is ready for self reflection and truth on an open forum.

If you are, or think you are, I'd love to honestly give you some helpful feedback. But be warned, I'm very cut to the chase in my responses and you might not be ready for such blunt honesty. You have to genuinely understand I'm trying to help not hurt, but sometimes we need to hear what we don't want to hear to help ourselves and change into a more positive direction.

I'm that type of person.

Quote from: Christine Eryn on June 06, 2015, 08:43:14 AM
I've always loved it. Like I said before, I now just consider them clothes and not "womens clothes" if that makes any sense. Since I became passible and full time, it now even makes more sense for me to enjoy shopping, which is what i'm going to do later today! 

Well I also consider them just "clothes."

This week I had to pack for an overnight stay. I packed my bag and then afterwards realized, wow, I'm packing a dress, top, jeans, panties and a bra, exclusively, and no men's clothes and it's no big deal.

I think you're wrong, pony. Hating shopping isn't about hating oneself. It's hating how society assumes what we are or what we should be. Shopping for female clothing (or clothing in general) was (and still is) a chore. Women's clothing are all about showing off tits and ass. It's all about form over function and it's ridiculous. Society pressures women "this is what you should wear to look cute/beautiful even if you disagree". Not to mention the bs sizing. What a small is in one store is petite in another. What is a 2? What does that mean?

Shopping for men's clothing while easier on the sizing front (most times they use ACTUAL MEASUREMENTS) nothing fits and thus fall in to the "this is what men are" definition set by society though i have seen FAR more variety on the men's side in terms of sizing.

I wholeheartedly believe that if there was a clothing line that heard the needs of the trans community and made alterations to how our body structure is, a lot more people would be happier.

So, no. This isn't about hating yourself and it's incredibly rude to assert that.

Quote from: mmmmm on June 03, 2015, 09:36:10 AM


As for the face, hormones do almost nothing... other than little rounder chin and more fat on cheeks (which is often correlated with little weight gain). Anyone prepared to prove me wrong, please present a before and after photo, without make-up, same light conditions, same facial expression, same or similar hairstyle... and you will see the same face. The real changes are improved make-up skills, finding out what hairstyle or wig works for them, which shape of eyebrows work for them, improved skin quality mostly due to using proper skin care regimen, compared to nothing before and destroyed skin because of daily shaving... While hormones can't do much, a surgical facial feminization can be pretty magical, and dermatologist can be a saviour for those who shaved their faces for 20 or 30 years. The same is with the body... a surgery can change and improve where hormones couldn't do enough by themselves. There weren't much chances available even 10 years ago, but you have some seriously talented surgeons today who mastered lipo transfer and can do some really amazing things with it. For a very reasonable cost...


....Oh, and yes, I'm addicted to shopping ...

I don't think that is entirely accurate about the face. Hormones don't have a dramatic effect but they have a subtle one. I almost never wear makeup yet my face from 6 months ago is different. It's not dramatic and you can see the same person but I'm definitely different. I used to think it was my eyebrows but I let them grow back and I look different to 6 months ago. Facial hair? Nope. Even though I've had laser I do have a shadow. It's going away slowly with each treatment but it's there. Head hair? Nope. Pull it back or wear a hat and I look different to 6 months ago.

The virtual FFS site does have some explanations such as reduced muscle mass around the mouth, and reduced/atrophied chewing muscles.

But the effect definitely isn't as dramatic as FFS, but to say it's "almost nothing" is inaccurate.