There was a video I watched of this guy who was Spanish and had a scrotom infection, they have to remove the scrotom. They did but they changed the location of the testies to the inside of of heis thighs. You could see the bulge. They probly couldnt make sperm at that temp but still produce testosterone.

I am having a big problem with this, not because of what you are requesting but because it's like looking at a blank wall when I know there is supposed to be a picture there. By answering my questions I might be able to understand better.

Knowing that I blended the male and female parts of me into the female role, why do you feel uncomfortable with moving into the female role when the female role would place few restrictions on your life style?

A side question to the first question, why don't you want a breast or a female body?

Why is a male appearing body so important to you?

As sex seems very important to you, what type of sex would you engage in?

Describe what your sexual partner would be.

Why do you want male hormones instead of female hormones?

As I have said before, I think you would have a hard time locating a sexual partner but you might have thought this out better than I have.

If a trans woman and a cis woman have intercourse it is gay sex. It isn't straight by any means if that is what you meant. The tom boy thing is more common in mtfs then many probably think. As I said I like mma, guns, trucks, country music, hang with some male friends I met before coming out, ect. So I got some tomboy in me. But I hate mynmale body and it gives me too much stress, also , thoni have a tomboy side I consider myself majority femme. But to be with an open mind I am not judging you. I'm just saying think long and hard about everything. It may take a lot of time to get an answer.

 Also, if you are a transgirl like me you would know testosterone is poison to us. For a large majority that is

Quote from: Dena on July 28, 2015, 09:10:50 PM
I am having a big problem with this, not because of what you are requesting but because it's like looking at a blank wall when I know there is supposed to be a picture there. By answering my questions I might be able to understand better.

Knowing that I blended the male and female parts of me into the female role, why do you feel uncomfortable with moving into the female role when the female role would place few restrictions on your life style?

A side question to the first question, why don't you want a breast or a female body?

Why is a male appearing body so important to you?

As sex seems very important to you, what type of sex would you engage in?

Describe what your sexual partner would be.

Why do you want male hormones instead of female hormones?

As I have said before, I think you would have a hard time locating a sexual partner but you might have thought this out better than I have.

I couldn't imagine breast on me, in fact I don't even know why breast are considered public nudeity. I don't consider breast as a sex characteristic. Man can very easily have breast. With either a lot of fat or just testicles removed. I only messed with girls breast cause they like it. I never found them attractive. Maybe not right now, I guess I wouldn't even know what's it like to have them. But I would see breast as a weaker form of someone, its like when you have breast you are instantly degraded on a physical basis of success. Born women are genetically smaller and made for birth,. Males are literally on a scientific speaking way just there to impregnate and eat till they get old and die. Female mosquito's live 5 ti s longer then male mosquito's. Male mosquito's literally don't even eat, they Dir cause they starve to death, female mosquito's use blood for eggs and pattically food for itself. Off tracked completely.. But it's the way I think.

Answering two questions at once, because I don't want people (other men) to not include me as a man in society.

I think if I had the surgery. I would be engaged more with men, because of penatrative matter,  but me and him would be on a nueteal basis, two gay men. But with a women I would want to over power. No offense bit when I see real female born lesbians one of them is almost always more "manly like" than the other.

I suppose its one way of kinda bring both genders at once. Yes I can do that Now too, but physically it would be a different side of things but same scenario.

The hormones would make me grow breast and change me emotionally. im not saying women are weak. But I know that it would change my mind and I don't want to change my emotion.

Its a weird mix of things, maybe its a i dont want to sacrifice my aapperance in public thing, but I want to be a woman physically underneath.

I see SRT regret websites and when people talk aabout what they regret IT ALWAYS STARTS WITH A SOCIRTY PROBLEM. Until the end they have altered the genitally and are saddened by it. I'm the opposite of that. Don't say I could just be gay and have backdoor cause that to me is gross.

Sorry to tell you, but you need to see a therapist in the worse way. You have issue's that have to be dealt with before HRT or surgeries are even discussed. You are about to offend a great many here if you keep up your train of thought in my opinion. Transition is a very serious medical issue NOT a fantasy where you pick and choose what you want to happen. Get off of SRS websites because right now because none of them would touch you with a ten foot pole. You asked for advice and my advice is get therapy and find out just what it is you want and need in your life. Right now you are a walking contradiction.

 

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on July 28, 2015, 10:27:45 PM
Sorry to tell you, but you need to see a therapist in the worse way. You have issue's that have to be dealt with before HRT or surgeries are even discussed. You are about to offend a great many here if you keep up your train of thought in my opinion. Transition is a very serious medical issue NOT a fantasy where you pick and choose what you want to happen. Get off of SRS websites because right now because none of them would touch you with a ten foot pole. You asked for advice and my advice is get therapy and find out just what it is you want and need in your life. Right now you are a walking contradiction.

I meant no offense to anyone on here, maybe i'm choosing the wrong words. Its all sensitive on this forum. Sorry,

its a scenario no one has heard of. Its not the original order of transition. Maybe it is a fantasy, maybe not. I was suicidal in the past, but it was not about this situation.

Quote from: nobody12345 on July 28, 2015, 10:31:46 PM
I meant no offense to anyone on here, maybe i'm choosing the wrong words. Its all sensitive on this forum. Sorry

It is a sensitive subject with a lot of pain for most. The thing that is bad is you think you can pick and choose what effects you want and how society and others will treat you. You have a LOT of homework to do. Indulging a fantasy is not one of those lessons. Start slow and start smart. Many will help you here, but these ideas you have and things you fantasize are not where your head needs to be. Start with one question and stop dreaming. If you are serious then others will help you through the process.

Quote from: nobody12345 on July 28, 2015, 10:31:46 PM
Maybe it is a fantasy, maybe not.

Pure fantasy at this point. You need to think this over a lot more and find a good therapist.

Correct me if I am wrong, but my take on it is you are not really attracted to women but see yourself in a relationship with a man who would penetrate you. You also enjoy all of the emotions and social benefits of being a man and other than the bottom surgery, you have no desire to alter your non sexual life.

Now you do understand the surgery is expensive, painful and requires a good deal care after surgery to keep it function. You also understand there will need to be exposure to female hormones topically to convert the tissue to vaginal tissue and some of these hormones may enter your system. Your plan to hide the testicles may reduce their hormone output and you may need supplemental hormones to maintain the proper levels.

As your likely sexual partner would be a gay man, you might find it hard to locate a partner who is willing to depart from the traditional gay relationship and enter into the somewhat different relationship that you would offer. There is a possibility that sexual partners might be nonexistent.

I have been out of this area for a long time and I mostly know about the standard process for people like me. I do know there are people out there who are not ethical and will do most anything for money but I have no idea the quality of care you would receive. You will be taking many risk to do this but in a way I did the same thing. The doctors certified that I was able to make the decision but in the end it was my decision that determined if I had surgery. I didn't take this decision lightly. I spent a total of 8 years in therapy before surgery and additional time after surgery to ensure additional issues were dealt with. I urge you to study this very carefully because this is something that is not be well understood and I have no idea what the outcome would be.

You don't need to take female hormones and grow breasts and other female things. You can take testosterone and look and feel exactly like you do now. Female hormones have a very strong mental effect, which I don't think you understand at all. You might find your really you hate taking them.

The other problem is that you seem to have very little in common with anyone here, except some gender related issues and the medical technology for SRS. I guess you're somewhere in the transgender spectrum because it is very inclusive, but you're very unusual.

I can understand why people would see what you write as offensive. There may be some cultural issues here if you think its ok. I get the impression you are from a very different culture to most of us. I don't agree with most of what you've said myself, but it doesn't upset me (its your problem not mine). I'll be honest and just say I find you interesting, and I like interesting puzzles.

I think you should see a psychiatrist or therapist, but I guess you're in as country where that's a big problem? I've seen both myself and they have been helpful. I'd be very careful about this, as life can get very difficult with gender problems. I think you're in far enough that you're going to get out of it easily - your fantasy is probably going to get very serious. You might be able to find other websites where you have in common with people there, but its going to push you in this direction more strongly.

Quote from: AnonyMs on July 29, 2015, 12:05:48 AM
You don't need to take female hormones and grow breasts and other female things. You can take testosterone and look and feel exactly like you do now. Female hormones have a very strong mental effect, which I don't think you understand at all. You might find your really you hate taking them.

The other problem is that you seem to have very little in common with anyone here, except some gender related issues and the medical technology for SRS. I guess you're somewhere in the transgender spectrum because it is very inclusive, but you're very unusual.

I can understand why people would see what you write as offensive. There may be some cultural issues here if you think its ok. I get the impression you are from a very different culture to most of us. I don't agree with most of what you've said myself, but it doesn't upset me (its your problem not mine). I'll be honest and just say I find you interesting, and I like interesting puzzles.

I think you should see a psychiatrist or therapist, but I guess you're in as country where that's a big problem? I've seen both myself and they have been helpful. I'd be very careful about this, as life can get very difficult with gender problems. I think you're in far enough that you're going to get out of it easily - your fantasy is probably going to get very serious. You might be able to find other websites where you have in common with people there, but its going to push you in this direction more strongly.

I found this website for a reason, it was through my "fantasies". I finally thought to myself, there is forums about this? and after a few months of seeing this website on searches, i finally registered and posted my situation. This wasn't a joke post. Anyone who knows me would know i wouldn't waste time on forums unless i was have interest. actually i haven't told anyone.

Quote from: nobody12345 on July 29, 2015, 12:40:08 AM
I found this website for a reason, it was through my "fantasies".

You are still not getting it. You have had really good suggestions on how to approach this and that is with a therapist. I have seen no acknowledgment you even understand that. It keeps coming back to fantasy. Transition is not fantasy, porn, etc. It is a very serious process to combat what is known as gender Dysphoria. Transition is not make believe where you can be one thing one day and another the next. It is a process that is monitored closely with medical protocols in place. One thing you have to learn is you will have to pick a physical presentation hormonally. Transition is permanent and very expensive and hard to get cleared for. Unfortunately you cannot go down to the store and buy a vagina. The process is very long, expensive and frustrating. You need to read more here so you can talk to us and ask good questions. If this idea is like anime or fantasy please do not waste our time.

Quote from: nobody12345 on July 29, 2015, 12:40:08 AM
I found this website for a reason, it was through my "fantasies". I finally thought to myself, there is forums about this? and after a few months of seeing this website on searches, i finally registered and posted my situation. This wasn't a joke post. Anyone who knows me would know i wouldn't waste time on forums unless i was have interest. actually i haven't told anyone.

I don't think you are joking. I only mentioned fantasies because you did. I did say you could probably achieve this if you tried, and I gave you some direction as to what you need to do to achieve it. I could have said nothing, and I could have told you more about how to do this. I'm not sure if I should though because I am not sure if you are mentally ok or not. Its difficult to tell just reading a few posts and I don't want to help anyone to get hurt. Also this has some strict rules I don't want to break. I'm not judging what you are doing. It is not good or bad to me. I believe everyone should free to live their life their own way. I'm doing that and I will let no one can stop me.

I have had a lot of problems myself being transgender and I wish I wasn't. These are very bad problems. So I am saying you should try to get some help because you are probably going to have a lot of problems too. Its better not to have these problems if you can avoid it. Also you need a psychiatrist to write the letters you need for surgery so you need to see one to achieve what you want.

Who are the nearest surgeons to you? I suggest you contact them and get a quote for the work you want done.

There are Suporn and Chettawet in Thailand
Brassard in Montreal
McGinn, Bowers and Metzler in the USA
Bellringer, Thomas and Fenton in the UK

Quote from: vcjhyt on July 29, 2015, 01:58:27 AMI suggest you contact them and get a quote for the work you want done.

This is the world's worst advice.

I suggest that nobody12345's first port of call is a gender therapist, along with taking a long break from the internet.

Quote from: StartingOver on July 29, 2015, 04:04:02 AM
This is the world's worst advice.

Why? The OP is not listening to anything WE say so why not ask the surgeon? I know what the answer will be and it will not be "Ok, let's operate".

No surgeon will do this without a referral, but maybe the OP needs to hear that from the surgeon.

I need to express my profound distress at the discussion here.

OP has spoken very frankly and honestly about things that are bothering them.

Dysphoria comes in many forms and what OP has disclosed EASILY falls within the bounds of the sort of dysphoria many of us feel.

Many of us consider various scenarios in our minds, sometimes in the context of fantasies, sometimes of possibilities, sometimes concrete plans, and sometimes a combination of all of those.

We owe them the courtesy of listening and the blessing of support for what we all know are uncomfortable feelings that we cannot help and that come to us from unexpected and uncomfortable directions.

The tone by which OP has been addressed is, IMO, not up to this site's usual standards of support. We are not here to judge anyone. We are here to help everyone find the direction that is most true to themselves.

Topic locked for review and cool down....

Edit August 1st


I am reopening this topic on the condition that all posts are to be constructive

Thankyou all

Katy xx

Find a psychiatrist that works with transsexualism
Stop fantasies in case they damage you
Tell psych you could be a mtf trans that is heavily
Repressing your personal truth

Also im pretty certain you will not get a vag bolted in
By any western surgeon under your proposed variables.

I highly suspect that you have denial issues
About being trans

I auggest find a support group for trans and attend
For a long while