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Hair Salon question for androgynous looking people

Started by makipu, August 15, 2015, 12:37:08 PM

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makipu

Apparently I am just learning about another unfairness between two genders and that is the pricing for a haircut at the salons. As you might know from my previous posts, I literally can be taken for both genders by different people and I am not sure if I should even go to one because I don't want to deal with stress if they take me as a 'she'. I don't have my hair that long but not too short either. Should I show them my ID that say M in this case? Is this even necessary?  Anyone here who look non-binary dealt with similar situations trying to get a hair cut?
Maybe I should just cut it by myself like how I've been doing for many years...
I am male because I say so and nothing more.
I don't have to look or act like one therefore.
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FriendsCallMeChris

I voted w/ my dollars here.  I kept looking for a place (and finally found one) that charged different prices for long hair, short hair and buzz cut, regardless of whose head had the hair.  Before that, I wore a definite guy's cut, and would bring in pics of guys with that cut.  If they charged me the female price (which they usually did), I told them it was a guy's cut so I should have been charged a guy's price and I wouldn't be back.  ((Got a few bad haircuts for a while, there too  :(  ))
Chris
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makipu

Hi Chris, thanks for sharing. May I ask what happened when they charged you a female's price if you don't mind sharing?   I am already uncomfortable with people in general so I don't want people giving me additional stress.
I think the place that charge differently for hair length (despite whatever gender) sounds like my ideal place but I haven't found one in my area. I am still searching. 

I was just telling my mom regarding this issue and the fact that she questioned what I am planning on telling them if they charge me a female price ruined my mood.  I DON'T CARE if I don't pass and I don't need to hear anything of that nature especially from her.  The thing is, it would be somewhat the same if I was cismale anyways.

I am male because I say so and nothing more.
I don't have to look or act like one therefore.
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FriendsCallMeChris

Quote from: makipu on August 17, 2015, 04:04:13 PM
Hi Chris, thanks for sharing. May I ask what happened when they charged you a female's price if you don't mind sharing?   I am already uncomfortable with people in general so I don't want people giving me additional stress.
I think the place that charge differently for hair length (despite whatever gender) sounds like my ideal place but I haven't found one in my area. I am still searching. 

I was just telling my mom regarding this issue and the fact that she questioned what I am planning on telling them if they charge me a female price ruined my mood.  I DON'T CARE if I don't pass and I don't need to hear anything of that nature especially from her.  The thing is, it would be somewhat the same if I was cismale anyways.
Hey Makipu,
I didn't pass and wasn't out, so I did my rant from an equality stance and then didn't go back. I said  something simple and snarky like, you're charging me more when it took you less time to cut my hair than it did for his? I won't be back. They probably didn't even notice, much less miss my business. [emoji19]  I think I have had better luck at unisex barber shops than at salons or franchise hair places.
Chris
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VeronicaLynn

Have you considered avoiding the whole issue by learning to cut your own hair? For possibly less than the price of single haircut at any salon, you can buy a pretty decent clippers set at Walmart or some other discount chain...

You probably will make a few mistakes while you are learning though, I certainly did...
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Lyric

It surprises me that some salons still base rates on gender rather than the type of work being done. Many more modern salons don't do that practice, I think, though. Shop around. Better still, ask around. The best way to find a good stylist is by referral. These days many males and females wear essentially similar haircuts, so they should base rates on the cut.
"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life." - Steve Jobs
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Khatru

When I book my appointments online I tick the "womans" box, because I know that is 15 minutes longer than the mens cut, and I have fairly long, thick hair. Before when I had short hair I just did it the other way around. When I get my cut they don't give a ->-bleeped-<- what gender I have, just if my hair is short or long, and charges accordingly.
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Elis

You could try looking for an LBTQ barbers/hairdressers I.e one specifically run for LGBTQ people by LGBTQ people or ones who are LGBTQ friendly at least. You could try asking at various clubs, societies what have you. Good luck.
They/them pronouns preferred.



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