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Started by rachel89, September 23, 2015, 11:38:52 PM

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rachel89

I'm not sure there is a description/label for this, genderqueer or a "third gender (although sometimes it feels like that), but I feel like I don't have the language to describe it. I have absolutely zero desire for a male body or to present as male and wish to fully transition physically, but I feel like I have both feminine and some masculine emotional characteristics/personality characteristics/moods or at least others assign a feminine/masculine framework to that stuff. I realize that I enjoy doing some things considered feminine and talking in a manner that is considered more female, but another side to me is that I am also intensely interested in some things most females (or many males) don't really care about (at least stereotypically). Do you think that is a gender issue, something like Asperger's, am I like a unicorn, or are gender stereotypes complete BS, or could it be a mixture of those thins. Will HRT affect any of that? Should I just embrace being a unicorn it and realize that I could be physically beautiful and passable and have trouble passing socially sometimes?  Am I just being too neurotic?


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Lady Smith

I've recently come to realise that my strong sense of dysphoria over being identified as male does not mean that I must be a woman instead.  For the present time I describe myself as being an androgyne as a means to describe my state of being outside of the binary definition of gender.  That description may change as I grow into my new state of self awareness, but the short answer Rachel is that yes it is perfectly valid to perceive yourself as being somewhere in between being either male or female.
When I made my transition many years ago now HRT was a life saver as my natural T levels were just downright toxic for me.  I followed the standard narrative common back then and said I was a woman because I thought that was the only option if I was 'not male'.  It's taken me a while, but I'm much happier and content with myself by accepting my non-binary state of being.  My advice is to not get too hung up over labels as labels are for jam jars not people.
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rachel89

Its not that I don't identify as female, but I feel like I will never socially pass.  I would be most comfortable with an entirely female body, but recognize I have emotional characteristics of both female and male.  I'm still want too see what HRT will do. Androgyne isn't quite the right word, and neither is woman, because many my life experiences are vastly different than most women. Genderqueer isn't right either because I have no desire to present masculine. maybe trans-feminine-transsexual is a more accurate description thean just "woman", "androgyne", or "third sex"   maybe? I'm really afraid of being gate-kept (I think I am already, but I have no money, so I can't continue with physical transition for right now anyways).


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Serenation

Not sure what things your intensely interested in, though I am curious. Don't worry about liking things that are not seen as female.

I like video, games, cars, motorbikes, electric guitars and I was raised as a boy. It's ok for trans people to have some emotional skills or traits they picked up a long the way.
I will touch a 100 flowers and not pick one.
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rachel89

basically I'm kind of a nerd, and I notice relatively few females that share the same interests. maybe I'm too worried about stereotypes or something.


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Serenation

nerd girls are cool and not that uncommon :) have you ever been to a convention
I will touch a 100 flowers and not pick one.
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KristinaM

I'm a geeky girl!  In fact, I'm part of a Facebook group with like 200 members that's full of geeky girls from all over North Carolina.  :D  They're the most fun and totally get my interests and sense of humor!
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kittenpower

Sorry, I'd love to help, but my going rate for advice is 6 cents; however, if it's your birthday, I may consider giving you a discount.  ;D
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Qrachel

For a while I was unlocatable, or at least that was my perception, on the gender continuum.

Oh BTW, before I go further, I only deal in haute couture.  Five cents worth is fine but no cash please!  (I really like your picture too.)

Now, where was I . . . oh yes, it took me about two years before I settled into a place and being me once I could admit that I wasn't a 'man.'  You look as if you pass, your posts here are coherent and solid. 

Sooo, I suspect you need to give yourself the space (and hey, it's totally OK to do so) to be fluid.  Do what pleases you and see where it leads; there's no big hurry. 

For the record: I like and collect guns, love to fly fish, find that any excuse to have a pamper day at the spa is a good day, dislike extremism, went to college on a football scholarship, am 6'2", love 3-4" heels and boots, can swear like a sailor and will if it's called for, love to be demur, like jeans and tea-tops and formal gowns, work in a largely female populated industry, also consult with CEOs and Board Members of organizations where there's tons of guyness, . . . and so on.

So, am I feme - you bet! Am I a bit boyish - definitely.  Does this crazy mixture work for me and my world - as much as it does for any person I think, meaning sometimes yes and sometimes no and other times who the heck knows.  I've been at this now for 15 years and don't expect that it will get any clearer.  That's OK, I have a good life and I can live with that.

Take good care my dear,

Rachel

Rachel

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I'll try again tomorrow."
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Sarah82

Hi Rachel,
Over my 20 odd years as a table top role player I have met many geeky girls who love everything geeky; star wars, anime, Dr who, judge dread, Warhammer 40K (these girls were rare and often played sisters of battle, space elves and evil space elves), medieval reenactment, martial arts, cars & tanks, computers, etc...

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I have often discussed with family and friends the issue of  how we, as individuals, think and the processes/emotions/mindsets we use.
I believe that anyone can think in a feminine or masculine mindset that has nothing to do with gender identity.
Some emotions I imagine as being either masculine or feminine, anger for example is masculine and compassion is feminine.

I think that the "These are male activities and those are female" idea is a social construct and we should really be able to do what ever we like, provided no-one gets hurt (unless they are into that kind of thing).





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AnamethatstartswithE

I guess I'll throw in my advice. I don't know if you're into this sort of thing but you could try to find a board gaming group/club in your area. I'm a US expat in a foreign country, and pretty much all of my friends are from going to a weekly game club. On the being a nerd front, I'm still presenting as male and not out to anyone so this is just my impression, it should be somewhat easier to be really nerdy as a female than as a male. As a male there's social pressure to not geek out too much or you'll never get a date, that's not really a problem for females.
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iKate

Well I identify as female, but I like guns, electronics, cars, motorcycles, MMA and ham radio. So I guess stereotypes really don't matter.
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Lady Smith

If I didn't live in a small rural town I would more than likely be still involved in Fantasy wargaming (nobody for miles to play with).  I'm not into guns, but I own a nice vintage recurve bow and I'm very much into metalwork and mechanical tinkering.  So really you can follow any interests you want to.
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