Quote from: Sarah on December 15, 2007, 02:48:54 PM

Quote from: Berliegh on December 15, 2007, 07:17:23 AM
Is there anything other than surgery to get boobs? I've found that even after many years on hormones I still haven't got anough to fill a B cup...

Yes, vaccum exercising.
Go to: www.extremerestraints.com (a respectable S&M site) they have the acrillic tubes for stretching them out.
With hormones gets dramatic results.
Also, I find phyto-estrogen works better for me.
More expensive (by far) and takes longer, but better results.

Also, consider adding Fenugreek to your diet and supplements.
Fenugreek has been hsed for thousands of years to increase breast size.
It was used by harem girls in the middle east particularly.
I take it with the my other stuff, and so far my methods have had pretty noticable results even in a short time.

What nonsense...

Posted on: December 16, 2007, 06:51:57 AM

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Quote from: Rachael on December 16, 2007, 06:43:27 AM
i actually dont WANT implants... even if i stay a B cup (unlikely)... i dont want to be part fake... my breasts are special to me, and i want them untouched by a knife...
R

I completely agree with you Rachael but unfortunitely I haven't got breasts anywhere near a female shape or size for my build, so it seems the only option for me..

whats wrong with a pushup bra?
R

Rachael, if you had much muscle before, you could actually go up in cup while actually your breast being smaller. They would be bigger, but the muscle underneeth the breast gives a false idea of the size of the breast. After 5 months I was 38B and now I'm 34C) In theory that's much smaller even with the bigger cup (because of smaller band size), but I know there's much more breast tissue there than before (when I touch them) and a lot less muscle. You only realize after you lost it how much muscles there was under the breast tissue.

Quote from: Keira on December 16, 2007, 02:04:48 PM

Rachael, if you had much muscle before, you could actually go up in cup while actually your breast being smaller. They would be bigger, but the muscle underneeth the breast gives a false idea of the size of the breast. After 5 months I was 38B and now I'm 34C) In theory that's much smaller even with the bigger cup (because of smaller band size), but I know there's much more breast tissue there than before (when I touch them) and a lot less muscle. You only realize after you lost it how much muscles there was under the breast tissue.

True. Band size number going down is actually your back/chest size going down. It's really the cup that's the size of the actual breasts.

But, a 34C has a smaller cup than a 38B, but it projects more outward (hop I'm clear).
When you start, males have much pectoral muscle.
Many FTM that get a mastectomy look really weird initially until they build
up their pects. They are VERY VERY flat chested unless they trained hard
prior to mastectomy.

hmm that may be why so many recent ftm post op pics look so unnatural. it scared me. that look would be horrible on me. i'm too big a guy.

Quote from: Keira on December 16, 2007, 03:53:16 PM

But, a 34C has a smaller cup than a 38B, but it projects more outward (hop I'm clear).
When you start, males have much pectoral muscle.
Many FTM that get a mastectomy look really weird initially until they build
up their pects. They are VERY VERY flat chested unless they trained hard
prior to mastectomy.

well im a 36B atm... not MUCH muscle, but theres some fat which is going... so yeah, maybe... but then, ive always had breasts since my early teens... and NOT fat... i was asked so many times before i came out if i was wearing a bra ><
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As I said rachel, most TS underestimate how much pectoral they had.
If you had little muscle, you'd look weird. I've seen MTF with little
muscles and they looked very week as men, but now with
breast tissue in the right place, they are better balanced.
That's why I smile when many TS say they are B's in 4 months, yeah
they fit a B cup, but much of this muscle that will go away and fat
that shouldn't be there. Many TS are overweight before they start HRT
because of self-esteem issues. Later, pects will diminish and your chest size
actualy will actually decrease while keeping the same cup size (what could
cause this but muscle loss...).

If your band size goes down a lot, its because of loss of fat and muscles.
Women who are overweight need big band sizes.

If you lose fat elsewhere (you don't need to be obese for that)
your breast can go down in size substantially, depends on how much
of it is gland and how much is fat.
I lost 30 pounds and even if you saw me before, you'd not
say I had that much to lose (though part of this weight was muscles, but most was fat).

Belive me Kiera, i am a b cup... not fit a b bra, but its a FULL b cup... and its ALL breast tissue... 4 months? hah no not even close... i had a decent A having a go by then, but im a healthy full B at the moment (11 months) im a 34-36 depending on the bra, YOur right about cupsize going up when you go down band... i found that out the painful way once! I did have very little pectoral muscle, but i have, as ive said, had small breastgrowth since puberty, so that skews things a bit... Youve seen me in a bikini thats boob
R

Unless I'm mistaken, this is how bra sizes work:

band size (in inches) --> 34 B <-- cup size

Neither has anything to do with the other, so a 36B has a larger band size (around your ribs), but a smaller cup size (boobs) then a 34C.

QuoteThe size of a bra is commonly described by two values. The first is the band size (underband), a number based on the circumference of the chest under the bust, excluding the breasts. The second is the cup size given by a letter of the alphabet, and relating to the volume of the breasts themselves. For example, a 30D bra has a 30-size band and a D-size cup. Cup sizes typically start with A, the smallest, and increase alphabetically. A double or triple lettering system may also be used, e.g. DDD for F or AA for a size smaller than A.

from wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassiere#Measurement_systems

Posted on: December 17, 2007, 05:02:33 PM

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Though I also need to add that brands etc are ALL different, so while you might fit one size in one brand it probably won't hold true for all brands.

Quote from: Nero on December 16, 2007, 04:13:50 PM
hmm that may be why so many recent ftm post op pics look so unnatural. it scared me. that look would be horrible on me. i'm too big a guy.

Yeah it took me a lot of weightlifting to get pecs. Because the fat gets removed as well, you do look quite unnatural at first.

Dennis

A B-C-D cup is NOT always the same, when you go down a band size
your cup size will go up. Check it out online.

Quote from: Dennis on December 18, 2007, 12:10:46 AM

Quote from: Nero on December 16, 2007, 04:13:50 PM
hmm that may be why so many recent ftm post op pics look so unnatural. it scared me. that look would be horrible on me. i'm too big a guy.

Yeah it took me a lot of weightlifting to get pecs. Because the fat gets removed as well, you do look quite unnatural at first.

Dennis

Good to know. I was afraid that look was permanent or due to some surgeons technique.  I never took into the account the reason why it may look that way. Thanks.

Quote from: Sarah on December 16, 2007, 01:07:45 AM

Quote from: Keira on December 16, 2007, 12:38:50 AM

There is NO difference between natural compounds and processed compounds.
If they are bad, they are bad no matter their source.
I'm done with this because obviously, you're very obtuse. Over and out.

Yes there is.
There are no buffers in Asprin which are needed for safe absorption.
They ARE present in Willow bark naturally.
Willow bark is safer.

I think you are kind of a bigot.

"A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.

The origin of the word bigot in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite", especially a woman. Bigot is often used as a pejorative term against a person who is obstinately devoted to prejudices even when these views are challenged or proven to be false or not universally applicable or acceptable." emphasis added -from Wikipedia

lulz... what a hypocrite.... 
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Quote from: Rachael on December 17, 2007, 04:35:53 AM
Belive me Kiera, i am a b cup... not fit a b bra, but its a FULL b cup... and its ALL breast tissue... 4 months? hah no not even close... i had a decent A having a go by then, but im a healthy full B at the moment (11 months) im a 34-36 depending on the bra, YOur right about cupsize going up when you go down band... i found that out the painful way once! I did have very little pectoral muscle, but i have, as ive said, had small breastgrowth since puberty, so that skews things a bit... Youve seen me in a bikini thats boob
R

I am a bit confused. Are you referring to that shot of you in the "bored" thread? You look barely an A  in that pic. Well, to me anyway, but I am overflowing my DD bras now, when I wear one.

As I said, its very hard to judge breast from muscle initially.
The breast tissue after a while covers the pect entirely and the gland
prevents easy palpation beneath. One way to sort of know, is to contract
the pect the most you can while hanging forward. But ,even then, its not
as easy as it seems.

Don't want to offend anybody, me also when I was 38B after 6 month
thought that this was all breast tissue, but now than I'm 34B a year at most
away from 32, I have to admit that most of the 38B was filled with the pect
under the breast tissue. The reason I say this, I know I have more tissue than
then (lots for bounce), but a 38B is 2-4 times bigger than a 34B so the difference
must be because of lost muscle and because I lost weight.
This is obvious since I also lost much band size and bust
size and that's all muscles loss.

me:       Hello breasts how are you?
breasts: Fine.
me:       Should you really be here?
breasts: Not really, you should stop eating.
me:       Oh. Well. I won't bother doing that. Erm.....welcome to the team.

Quote from: Veronica Secret on December 30, 2007, 01:50:15 AM

Quote from: Rachael on December 17, 2007, 04:35:53 AM
Belive me Kiera, i am a b cup... not fit a b bra, but its a FULL b cup... and its ALL breast tissue... 4 months? hah no not even close... i had a decent A having a go by then, but im a healthy full B at the moment (11 months) im a 34-36 depending on the bra, YOur right about cupsize going up when you go down band... i found that out the painful way once! I did have very little pectoral muscle, but i have, as ive said, had small breastgrowth since puberty, so that skews things a bit... Youve seen me in a bikini thats boob
R

I am a bit confused. Are you referring to that shot of you in the "bored" thread? You look barely an A  in that pic. Well, to me anyway, but I am overflowing my DD bras now, when I wear one.

yeah, i do look barely an a, but such is a non supporting bikini...
at my last bra fitting, i was a 36b, and i overflow A cup bras.
Kiera: your right, ill probably drop to 34 when i stop being a fat moo, theres a high chance, and im hoping too, that there is pectoral muscle under the breast.
R

I was not sure where to post this but this looked like a good thread to do it in. I noticed today that my breast buds have finally caught up to each other. The left one seemed to be growing faster than the right one when I started taking HRT. Now almost three months into it they are now the same size. This is so cool!!! 

Quote from: Laura91 on December 30, 2007, 11:01:56 AM
I was not sure where to post this but this looked like a good thread to do it in. I noticed today that my breast buds have finally caught up to each other. The left one seemed to be growing faster than the right one when I started taking HRT. Now almost three months into it they are now the same size. This is so cool!!! 

Righty is still a bit smaller than lefty   I noticed that for the first time though that lefty actually fills out my nearly A bra though!    Small victories in life...