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Ladies, ladies, please.

Some ladies choose to hang in non-TG associated clubs, others prefer to hang with other TGs.
There is nothing wrong with either choice.
The desire to hang with peeps possessing a common background is as old as time. And certainly not unique to TGs.
Let's also keep in mind that other ladies here may not be at the same point in transition as you are. All beginning transitioners need the support of other TS.
Let's respect others' choices in their social circle.

.....I don't do either. I don't go to transgendered clubs and I don't hang around with TG's either. The only TG's I know of are the folk on the forum. Most of my friends are not related to the TG scene and never have been. Even when I was in the early stages of transition I didn't ever want go to transgendered clubs or anything trans related. It was my choice and if I wanted to go to the average pub down the road....that was and is my choice. I am not saying I have anything against TG related clubs or workshops or therapy groups, all I'm saying is they are not for me personally and I prefer the company of the pub and genetic females and males..

I have had Transsexuals try and force the TG scene on me especially one Female to male person who found out I was TS and a musician. He wanted me to go to Transgendered music workshop which made me angry as I knew plenty of hetrosexual musicians anyway and I was not in the slightest bit interested in going to gender related workshops or transgendered clubs, why would I?.... I'm quite independant and prefer not to get involved in any kind of TG scene...

(N used Peeps  )

Quote from: Kristi on December 17, 2007, 10:06:04 PM

- Some transsexuals can just never pass.
- Transsexualism can be linked to some trauma in early life.

Kristi

That one aint a myth...
R

Quote from: Pica Pica on December 18, 2007, 05:48:28 AM
(N used Peeps  )

In N's case, I'm going to let it slide. 

y2g

Myth:  Autogynepilia exists!

, and everyone who repeated it.  I'm going to let it slide this one time.     


myths or assumptions:

all T people are liberals
all T people are sensitive caring people
all T people are MtF
all T people are prostitutes

a lot of T people are pretty conservative aren't they?

Yeah.   I don't get it.

Maybe we should fire them.   

I get it. They want to not make a fuss and bring attention to themselves = conservativeness.
Androgynes are more jammy, they are preservatives.

Quote from: maragirlygirr on December 18, 2007, 07:05:03 AM
Myth:  Autogynepilia exists!

uh....
it does...
R

Quote from: Keira on December 18, 2007, 12:13:39 AM

,
maybe you can backanalyse what I said,
because I can't see where I went wrong on that one.
Sent me to sensitivity training if I need it... 

Keira is befuddled, but its a normal state for her...

That was just a statement that needed to be said because there's been a lot of back and forth in this thread about 'hanging with TGs vs not hanging with TGs'.

Yeah,
->-bleeped-<- exists,
the myth, well the croc theory...
Is that ALL TS are either gay or autogynephile
(sounds as crazy as it is).

thier not?
R

is it possible for a gay  ->-bleeped-<-c to exist?   

Since autogeniphilia is sexual excitation at seeing yourself as someone of the opposite gender
(but mostly seen in netive men), how could you be gay?

Its a sexual orientation in itself!

Unless its a bit more elaborate and its seeing oneself as somebody of the opposite gender
so you can be lesbian or gay in that gender that excites you.

Which I'm sure exists.

If its possible to sexualize inanimate objects, then its easy to believe that you can do it to yourself.  I'm sure its not a myth in that sense.  It is true for some people.  I doubt if it passes the test for being a universal field theory about TG, but then again, nothing does.

Quote from: Hypatia on December 18, 2007, 02:37:59 AM

Quote from: Tink on December 17, 2007, 06:29:42 PM

Quote from: Yvonne on December 15, 2007, 02:46:02 PM

Quote from: Hypatia on December 15, 2007, 02:18:35 PM
Myth: All transsexual people fully consciously realize they're the other gender in early childhood and articulate it openly. If you didn't speak out about it when you were 3 years old, you can't be transsexual.

I dont think these peeps are "not" transsexual.  They just realise their condtion at a much later time.  But the opposite is true too.  There are many trans peeps that realise their condition (maybe not in scientific terms) when they are three years old.

Very well said Yvonne.  I am one of those women who knew her true gender at age three.  I didn't know what "transsexual" meant then, of course, but I knew I was a girl & I expressed it to my mom at that age.  I dare anyone tell me that this can't be, I will eat you alive!  >

You're both misreading the intent of what I posted. Note the little word "All" at the beginning of my sentence. A statement in the form of "All X are Y" is called a categorical statement, which can easily become a falsehood if not applied carefully. Human beings are so diverse that usually you can't say "All X are Y" about people, there are bound to be exceptions... which was my point. I didn't mean to say "No 3-year-olds can know they're trans." That would be another categorical statement about people, and would be just as wrong.

Hypatia, I understood what you meant.  Perhaps I should have only included Yvonne's quote to avoid confusion.  If you take the time to re-read her quote, she said:

Quote from: YvonneI dont think these peeps are "not" transsexual.  They just realise their condtion at a much later time.  But the opposite is true too.  There are many trans peeps that realise their condition (maybe not in scientific terms) when they are three years old.

.
Basically she supported your notion but expanded it a bit.  Anyhow, I thought I'd let you know!

tink

I don't know any 3D TGs.

Quote from: Pica Pica on December 18, 2007, 07:00:59 PM
I don't know any 3D TGs.

Pica, I'd probably die of boredom without you and Reebs!

You lot, E-TGs.

And what would me and Rebis do if it wasn't talk crud on t'internet?



OOh Modify....

Actually I'm lying.

I once knew an FTM very well, they were odd though. A little frightening to be around. And I have met another FTM and he is pretty friendly as far as I know, my dad knows him better. 'Cept that, no one.