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Caitlyn Jenner Says Looking Like A Man In A Dress Makes People Uncomfortable

Started by Deborah, December 11, 2015, 10:32:35 PM

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audreelyn

Thanks Lyndsey!!

Lol Dee, oh wow, you could be right.

Okay, I think I am so down with taking on this task of emailing Jenny.

I mean, not one girl has all the answers... or all the right questions for one. Regardless of her current rhetoric, not all of us see Cait as the best rolemodel or the spokesperson for the T girls, but I think bc of her positioning we can at least help her do a better job.

So let me open it up to all of you, what do YOU think Cait should be talking about and addressing? How and why??

And I can use your suggestions and ideas to provide a good platform and reason for Jenny to pass this on, and maybe convince Cait to revamp her game, if you will.

Yay go team<3

Audree
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Lyndsey

Quote from: audreelyn on December 12, 2015, 05:18:37 PM
Thanks Lyndsey!!

Lol Dee, oh wow, you could be right.

Okay, I think I am so down with taking on this task of emailing Jenny.

I mean, not one girl has all the answers... or all the right questions for one. Regardless of her current rhetoric, not all of us see Cait as the best rolemodel or the spokesperson for the T girls, but I think bc of her positioning we can at least help her do a better job.

So let me open it up to all of you, what do YOU think Cait should be talking about and addressing? How and why??

And I can use your suggestions and ideas to provide a good platform and reason for Jenny to pass this on, and maybe convince Cait to revamp her game, if you will.

Yay go team<3

Audree

I think that she need to come down here to were 99.9% of us are and talk and help people at this level and then she will learn a lot about how hard it can be when you are a nobody. also I think on this site she should change her name here so as not to attract attention to her self as Catlynn. It would be better for her and us both as we all talk normal to each other. Just a thought

Lyndsey
Lyndsey Marie Burke- Started my journey February 2011 Full time on May 5th 2014 HRT June 6th 2014 Name change and on all records and court documents June 20th 2014 SCS October 20th 2015 with Doctor Marci Bowers in Burlingame California I'm a very Happy women and finally living what I should have been living my whole life. Expect the unexpected. I feel Blessed. Love, Live, Be Happy. Be safe.
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michelle

Caitlyn has become one of the Kardashian-Jenner divas, hasn't she.    But just look at the pictures of her since she was an Olympic star.   She has been concerned with her image, hasn't she.    Even when she was living butch, she just had to be the cutest stud in town.    I guess once a diva, always a diva.    Will she be the next Mrs.  Donald Trump?   What Republican stud is going to court her? When she becomes the bell of the ball at all the Republican shindigs, you will see a changed Republican party.   I am not  going to say that it wouldn't be great for us trans women or men either if that actually happened.   But, I am not holding my breath and I am going to check and see if hell has frozen over and to see if pigs fly.
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AshleyBeech

It does make people uncomfortable, and it does put the wearer in potential danger. I think this is something that needs to change, there should be nothing wrong with a man in a dress, make up, whatever.

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Deborah

The fact that it's true isn't really the issue.  It's the fact that she seems to think that it is a perfectly reasonable attitude that everyone should adopt that grates on me.


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Tysilio

Exactly. She seems to think that it's on us to do whatever we have to to ensure other people's "comfort" with us, no matter the cost, financial, emotional, or physical.

It's on everyone to help others feel comfortable, and the number one tool for that is -- ta-da... courtesy. Showing respect to others, being polite, helping them when they need it, etc., are all basic to a civil society.

There are times when being courteous does require conforming to social norms, including taking care about one's appearance: if I'm going to a funeral, for example, I dress pretty formally -- whatever is appropriate to the standards of the bereaved. If I'm going to the supermarket, not so much. I treat others courteously and I expect the same from them.

But courtesy doesn't require us to try to change what we can't. If a trans person isn't "passable" because of physical characteristics they can't change, it is not on them if they make people uncomfortable. They deserve courteous treatment no matter what, and it's dead wrong to criticize them because they're "not making an effort."

Physical limitations are no excuse for disrespect: people are often uncomfortable with those who use a wheelchair, and they can be very rude: ignoring them, treating them like children, talking over their heads, asking them intrusive questions about their disability -- just to name a few examples.

But damn me if I can imagine a disabled person who has learned to walk with crutches saying that someone who uses a wheelchair should just get up and walk so that able-bodied people can feel more comfortable.

This ain't no different.
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JennX

Being out of touch with reality, carrying around a heavy feeling of entitlement, constantly projecting your own issues on others, and being trans at the same time sometimes just occurs coincidentally all at once.
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-Dolly Parton
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Wynternight

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