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Empaths and Empathy

Started by cindybc, September 08, 2007, 07:07:16 AM

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Jaimey

Quote from: Wing Walker on December 22, 2007, 02:14:06 AM
Hi, Jaimey,

May I please address your thesis about a vengeful God and the beliefs of primitive peoples?

I don't know what they believed or didn't but some people practiced human sacrifice to appease their god or gods.  Others made burnt offerings of crops.  I cannot say if the supreme being that they saw was vindictive and judgmental or not but in America we sure have some folks who see it that way.


In my experience with these people, lots of inconvenient details are left out. :)

Quote from: Wing Walker on December 22, 2007, 02:14:06 AM
I have met some people who claim to know where my parking space in hell is located.  I pay them no mind.

OMG...my dad's-dad's family always makes me want to divorce them...my dad's-dad said today that when he worked in the local baked good factory that they were going to produce a kosher line of goods and when the rabbi came to bless the worker's hands, he refused because that's "intruding" on his religious beliefs...I wanted to crawl in a hole.  Then they got into a big discussion about how the politically correct people need to shut up...and yet they can't figure out why I never want to visit them...I am supremely embarrassed to be related to them...

though, as far as "Merry Christmas" vs. "Happy Holidays" goes...I do think there are far more serious problems in the world to worry about.  I mean, I'm not going to be offended if someone wishes me a Merry Yule or Happy Kwanzaa...Instead of taking down Christmas trees, why not just add Hannukah (I'm sure I'm not spelling that correctly) bushes and pagan pentagrams?  The more the merrier, I say!  (but then again, I just like shiny things...like twinkle lights...)

Quote from: Wing Walker on December 22, 2007, 02:14:06 AM
For some reason a portion of the people in the United States cannot tell where the division between matters of government end and matters of religion begin.

It seems that the religious right-wing (they certainly aren't "right") is fine with any religion, as long as it's Evangelical Christianity.

Quote from: Wing Walker on December 22, 2007, 02:14:06 AM
I have heard from a whole herd of people about what their religious beliefs are and how they see their Supreme Being, and they range all over the place.

I feel sorry for those who live under the nasty gaze of a wrathful god looking to devour their souls, that the only safe fun is no fun, that it's a sin to enjoy life.

I don't subscribe to such rubbish and I was taught differently when I was very young.

me too...have you ever heard of Judgment House?  There's a movie about it called "Hell House"...it's a "Halloween alternative", used to scare you into believing in Jesus...not a tactic I think He would have approved of, but try telling them that.

Doesn't it amaze you, all the things these people do in the name of God and Jesus?  It's funny, because I grew up in church and I don't ever remember reading any of that stuff in the bible...oh well...there's no talking to them anyway...

Quote from: Wing Walker on December 22, 2007, 02:14:06 AM
This life will have to do until something better takes its place, and I believe that it will.  There is a dimension beyond here where the potato chips are crisp, the dips fresh (yikes!), and the soda cold.  If I don't see you before then, I'll see ya there, Jaimey, Rebis, Cindy, and Pica.

Wing Walker


I highly doubt this is my first life, so if I don't meet you before it ends (I fully intend on making it too 100 and being a spunky old lady...well, old androgyne, but anyway...), I'll be looking for you in the hereafter.  :)
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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cindybc

And of course who cares about ones health on the last day before they blow up the earth. Hell get the beer and a ghetto blaster and we can party our back sides off until the fire works display and get turned into atomic dust.. ;D Just pulling on your socks. ;D

Merry Christmas

Happy Holidays

Cindy

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RebeccaFog

the world will not be ending anytime soon.

not until all my debt is paid off.
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cindybc

Does everyone drive Cadillacs in Heaven?

Cindy
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tekla

Heaven is much closer to Mackinac Island than an auto lot. 
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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cindybc

What about Kokomo Island?



Now that's what I call heaven.

Cindy
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Suzie

Quote from: cindybc on December 25, 2007, 07:08:36 PM
And of course who cares about ones health on the last day before they blow up the earth. Hell get the beer and a ghetto blaster and we can party our back sides off until the fire works display and get turned into atomic dust.. ;D Just pulling on your socks. ;D


If it was really the last day, beer is the last thing I would want.  Why would you want to dull the senses when this is the last taste you would get of the world?

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cindybc

Hi Suzie hon, every single human on the planet would have their very own unique way of looking at it and of making a choice as to how they would like to spend those last few moments on the planet. What ever turns their crank, or floats their boat.

Cindy
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Jaimey

with my luck, if they do manage to blow up the planet, i'll manage to survive, with only cockroaches for friends...heh.

Happy Holidays!!!  (How did we get to such a grim topic?)
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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cindybc

Hi Jaimey
Yes and house guests and dust devils.

Cindy
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IsabelleStPierre

Hey Cindy,

I have had this topic of discussion before with a number of people to be honest and I never tire of it!

I am an empath and it is both a blessing and a curse! I tend to tune in very easily to people and their feelings; I have actually been known to stop someone in the mall or hall at work and ask if they're OK. It drives some people crazy but those who have known me for any length of time learn to deal with it...

My kids and ex all could never quite understand how I did it, and to be honest I have no idea how it works...it just does. I recall on particular instance when I sensed my ex getting a headache and I just brought her some ibuprofen and a glass of water. She asked what that's for? I said her headache and her response was "How the hell did you know I was getting a headache??" My kids learned to hate it actually because I would be knocking on their bedroom door to find out what was wrong...even though I hadn't even seen them since getting home...

I just think some people are more in-tune with everything around them and that we pickup those little things that others don't notice...

The problem I have with my abilities is that I have yet to learn to disconnect from others...and that often leads me to an emotional meltdown! I don't only sense when others are having problems; I seem to also become emotionally attached to them and their mood affects mine. It's not too bad often, but when a number of people close to me have problems I get overloaded...that is the curse part.

Anyway, great topic!

Oh I just remembered a test my therapist gave me once...showed me these people's faces and asked me to tell what there emotional state was. She first started with only 10 pictures and I got 10 for 10...out of frustration she kept adding more pictures and wasn't going to stop until I missed one...we went through 89 pictures before I missed one. Perhaps I'm just a good people reader....but then again I can usually tell when someone I know is have a problem just from their posts to any common groups we share...

Peace and love,
Izzy
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Suzie

Quote from: Isabelle St-Pierre on December 26, 2007, 06:40:35 PM
Hey Cindy,

I have had this topic of discussion before with a number of people to be honest and I never tire of it!

I am an empath and it is both a blessing and a curse! I tend to tune in very easily to people and their feelings; I have actually been known to stop someone in the mall or hall at work and ask if they're OK. It drives some people crazy but those who have known me for any length of time learn to deal with it...

My kids and ex all could never quite understand how I did it, and to be honest I have no idea how it works...it just does. I recall on particular instance when I sensed my ex getting a headache and I just brought her some ibuprofen and a glass of water. She asked what that's for? I said her headache and her response was "How the hell did you know I was getting a headache??" My kids learned to hate it actually because I would be knocking on their bedroom door to find out what was wrong...even though I hadn't even seen them since getting home...

I just think some people are more in-tune with everything around them and that we pickup those little things that others don't notice...

The problem I have with my abilities is that I have yet to learn to disconnect from others...and that often leads me to an emotional meltdown! I don't only sense when others are having problems; I seem to also become emotionally attached to them and their mood affects mine. It's not too bad often, but when a number of people close to me have problems I get overloaded...that is the curse part.

Anyway, great topic!

Oh I just remembered a test my therapist gave me once...showed me these people's faces and asked me to tell what there emotional state was. She first started with only 10 pictures and I got 10 for 10...out of frustration she kept adding more pictures and wasn't going to stop until I missed one...we went through 89 pictures before I missed one. Perhaps I'm just a good people reader....but then again I can usually tell when someone I know is have a problem just from their posts to any common groups we share...

Peace and love,
Izzy

Wow, that's amazing!  You are a super duper intuitive person!  I've never met anyone that intuitive before.  Are you sure you were born on Planet Earth?  Can you tell what I'm thinking right now?





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IsabelleStPierre

Quote from: Suzie on December 26, 2007, 07:46:53 PMWow, that's amazing!  You are a super duper intuitive person!  I've never met anyone that intuitive before.  Are you sure you were born on Planet Earth?  Can you tell what I'm thinking right now?

Hum...disbelief, that I'm full of BS, and a few other not so nice things...but then again since I don't know you and haven't read many of your posts I could be completely off base........
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Pica Pica

I can do some of that, long as I don't stop to think about it. Never thought it qualified me for this stuff though.
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cindybc

Hello, Izzy,

Oh, don't I know about picking stuff of other people!  That is probably the hardest thing one can experience.

Tears are a good way to get rid of this unwanted energy especially when it is events or situations that were out of your control to deal with, in other words, someone else's energy. But I do find myself at this emotional depth like a bottomless pit. Both positive and negative energy can be transmuted to positive energy.  At the bottom of this pit positive and negative emotional energy are balanced, no difference between these two energies. What I do is to use prayer to transmute that energy to send it out to universe as healing energy .

Attracting grown up people, kids and animals, I love it. Grown ups feel something as well or they wouldn't be looking around trying to find where the source of what they felt was coming from.   Ill come back to this one afterwards.

Children , they are just so wonderful when they feel your energy.  They will come right up to you and stare at you unabashed. Same with animals birds, etc. I believe plants respond to our energy as well. I used to have an apartment full of plants of different varieties. I had them for 10 years and they simply thrived, and all I did is water them.

Grown-ups try to find where the source of what they felt was coming from after they have felt it. 
Now I have discovered something through the years that I really didn't give much thought to except for in the last couple days:  that with projection to other people, one many never even be aware that they are doing it and a lot of people have this ability.  It's not only restricted to empaths. But it was very effective for me to project to other people what I want them to see me as.

One can project a completely different image to another person who will see exactly what they wanted that other person to see. I have not been tested as to the levels ESP that I have. But I will say that after I begin to know the people in message board like this, once I get a feel for certain persons, I can begin to know what kind of personality and what their characteristics are. I can tell especially when someone is about to blow their stack and I just make myself scarce from that thread unless I believe I can help to sort out their problem.

Some can be very deceptive, though.  I can do the same thing in reality out there. 

Every morning along with my devotions I do a cleansing. Like a ballerina, I hold my hands up over my head then down to below the navel and up again from both sides while drawing in a deep breath, bringing my hands up again over my head then down towards the floor.  When I do this I picture in my mind that I am like an apple core, so that when I bring my hands down I picture healing energy going down the apple core all the way to the ground. I repeat this three times. It works well for me for cleansing.

Cindy
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Pica Pica

i thought the kids just stared because of the big ginger hair and spectacles.  :icon_sitonitnrotate-nerd:
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cindybc

Hi Pica Pica, Little kids are very sensitive to different vibrations, they become quite in-tune with the environment around them and very quick to picking up on things that grown ups would not be aware of. You would find that children are so very conscious to the little details both of this reality or any other realities  because their minds are not cluttered with the rubbish of this man made reality.

Cindy 
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IsabelleStPierre

Quote from: cindybc on December 26, 2007, 09:00:51 PMHi Pica Pica, Little kids are very sensitive to different vibrations, they become quite in-tune with the environment around them and very quick to picking up on things that grown ups would not be aware of. You would find that children are so very conscious to the little details both of this reality or any other realities  because their minds are not cluttered with the rubbish of this man made reality.

Cindy 

Kids are A LOT more preceptive then people give them credit for. If I'm clocked lately at all it usually is by a child...they don't have a whole lifetime of filters they have built up to block there perception. As we grow up we are influenced by the views of those around us, and over time we develop our own set of values and perceptions that can cloud our perception of others...kids simply haven't been screwed up by humanity yet!

People in general send out a lot more 'messages' then they are even aware of, from body language, their tone, the way they old their head, all sorts of little details go into communication...the spoken word is actually only about 60% (not absolutely positive on that number) of the communications that takes place...also, younger kids are more keyed to visual perceptions than anything else...observing is one of the ways kids develop...

Just my two cents on the topic...

Peace and love,
Izzy
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cindybc

Hi Isabelle
I quite agree about the children. I had many of these sensitivities when I was a kid. But after a very abusive marriage  for five years I was pretty well off to being an alcoholic for to many years, using alcohol to hide from the world. Anyway I can attest that for some these sensitivities are with us for life. After my first year of sobriety I began to remember them from as far back as 3 years old. A few years later my other friend showed up GID To keep it short I was quite literally being tortured mentally because I didn't know what these critters were that were scratching y mind out with their claws were about, I thought I was being tormented by demons. Now I am so grateful to have my empathic abilities back. When I was working as a social worker for the past twenty years I can't expound enough on how much empathy helped in my work. It was not until two years into my last job that I discovered what the word transsexual was and i came out full time as Cindy for the last seven years. That's in in a nutshell   

Cindy

Posted on: December 26, 2007, 10:09:36 PM
Two Spirited

I said those words nearly word for word some time earlier on this forum, and to tell the truth, I am not certain as to how many realy understand or even bother to try to do so. But I believe it is catching on.

Wing Walker and I had an interview yesterday evening.  We spoke to one of the counselors for trans folks here about doing some volunteer work. It appears that the organization is going to set us up with our own meeting room and maybe a small office space to run our own support group in Surrey where we live.

The awsome part of it all was in meeting two others of like mind when we were there. There are others like us out there, maybe they just don't know it. Maybe it's just that this group here is too preocupied about surviving right now for them to want get into any of the spiritual aspects of it. Actuall I believe it's the spirituality part of this that can be the stregth they seek.

Cindy
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Jaimey

Quote from: Pica Pica on December 26, 2007, 08:22:59 PM
i thought the kids just stared because of the big ginger hair and spectacles.  :icon_sitonitnrotate-nerd:

well, pica, in your case...

just kidding!  nothing but love, you know ;D.


Quote from: cindybc on December 26, 2007, 08:17:38 PM
What I do is to use prayer to transmute that energy to send it out to universe as healing energy .

Can you send that out to someone specifically?  Because I stepped on a thumbtack this morning and it hurts...a lot. :'( 

Actually, I read in a book about angels once that Raphael, the Archangel of healing, has an emerald green aura and if you visualize that aura around a wound, it will heal...there are also other auras associated with different angels that can affect people similarly, depending on that particular angel's abilities...it's something I'm pretty interested in.

Quote from: cindybc on December 26, 2007, 08:17:38 PM
But I will say that after I begin to know the people in message board like this, once I get a feel for certain persons, I can begin to know what kind of personality and what their characteristics are. I can tell especially when someone is about to blow their stack and I just make myself scarce from that thread unless I believe I can help to sort out their problem.

Some can be very deceptive, though.  I can do the same thing in reality out there. 

i can figure people out pretty quickly too, whether it's on a forum like this or in person.  i can tell almost immediately if a person is being true to themselves/the people around them or being fake.  it comes in handy when making friends.

i also can tell when things are getting tense...although I'm more likely to try and be a calming force when things start to get out of hand.  i think one of my empathic qualities is that i am have a pretty calming presence.  whether people are getting angry or if they are nervous, i think i make people feel at ease. 

for me, the most telling signs are tone of voice (i seem to be WAY more sensitive to this than other people...i've got an idea as to how that happened, though) and sentence structure/word choice...it's all in the ears for me.  Do you all have a specific "area" (for lack of better word) that you "feel" people through?


...i think i was going to say something funny, but i can't for the life of me remember what it was... :-\
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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