Hi,

  just want to confirm - is it true that Suporn meshes the scrotal skin graft?

Yes

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,63079.msg1789802.html#msg1789802

Did you manage to find out if this was hearsay or was it actually the case?

The post didn't end up providing any primary sources.

Thanks x

I found a medical article on meshed skin grafts - and was curious as it provided information on the meshed area's sensitivity and flexibility (which isn't the same as an unmeshed one).

Like most SRS surgeons there is no primary source for almost anything Dr Suporn does. He's published very little and there's nothing much on his website.

http://www.supornclinic.com/Restricted/SRS/srspapers.aspx

I've done a lot of research on Dr Suporn so I'm quite confident its essentially correct. If you want to check any further you could just email the clinic and ask. I'm curious why the interest?

As mentioned, the medical article I came across.

Also, the fact that his method provides an avg length that's longer than most other surgeons - yet, no other surgeon has taken up his approach... makes me wonder why - a simple answer to your question would be because I'm curious (the irony haha)

I'd guess the reason other surgeons haven't copied it is that its "expensive" and they don't need to. By expensive I mean there's a lot of aftercare and recovery, and while that's cheap enough in Thailand it would be very expensive anywhere else. The other big names have plenty of business so why should they change? Its not like their customers seem to care.

Surgeons are generally competitive and receptive to medical break-throughs, so I was curious.

I'm sure if a western surgeon carried out the same procedure, people who live in the west would avoid the hassle of travel, even if it means a heftier cost.

Quote from: divineintervention on February 27, 2016, 07:59:24 PM
Surgeons are generally competitive and receptive to medical break-throughs, so I was curious.

I'm sure if a western surgeon carried out the same procedure, people who live in the west would avoid the hassle of travel, even if it means a heftier cost.

If Suporn did penile inversion people would still go there, people go for the rep, the price, his experience, Thailand, minimal gatekeeping, Aesthetics as well as his technique

The top surgeons in Thailand all have their propriety surgery secrets. I wrote that PAI had a team dedicated to the scrotal skin scraping snd fitting.  They would not allow my documentary film crew to film this as this was their own method... I'm very suspicious about what the claims of different surgeons to differenciate themselves.

Quote from: Serenation on February 27, 2016, 10:19:23 PM
If Suporn did penile inversion people would still go there, people go for the rep, the price, his experience, Thailand, minimal gatekeeping, Aesthetics as well as his technique

I'm not sure I agree with most of this. I definitely agree with the experience factor.

As far as most English speakers are concerned there's Suporn and Chett in Thailand, and a few others no one can remember. Suporn and Chett are also the two that don't do penile inversion, and as far as I know also the two most expensive. You can get much cheaper on Thailand so people are not choosing on price alone. All this does suggest that non penile inversion is a big factor.

Its also possible, and I think likely, that Suporn's reputation is based in large part of his technique producing excellent results, so where would he be without it? It would be difficult at least to distinguish himself from any other surgeon even if he were unusually talented (which I suspect he is).

I'm not sure about the gatekeeping. Most people don't seem to realize just how little there is, and go though the whole rigmarole even if they don't need to.

Personally I'd choose Suporn because I think he produces the best results, and I'd still go if he was double the price, or more. The lack of gatekeeping is admittedly a bonus in my case.

Quote from: warlockmaker on February 28, 2016, 12:00:31 AM
The top surgeons in Thailand all have their propriety surgery secrets. I wrote that PAI had a team dedicated to the scrotal skin scraping snd fitting.  They would not allow my documentary film crew to film this as this was their own method... I'm very suspicious about what the claims of different surgeons to differenciate themselves.

I don't understand, how does Dr Preecha keep anything secret when he's the one training the all the new surgeons?

Quote from: AnonyMs on February 28, 2016, 01:10:55 AM
I'm not sure I agree with most of this. I definitely agree with the experience factor.

As far as most English speakers are concerned there's Suporn and Chett in Thailand, and a few others no one can remember. Suporn and Chett are also the two that don't do penile inversion, and as far as I know also the two most expensive. You can get much cheaper on Thailand so people are not choosing on price alone. All this does suggest that non penile inversion is a big factor.

Its also possible, and I think likely, that Suporn's reputation is based in large part of his technique producing excellent results, so where would he be without it? It would be difficult at least to distinguish himself from any other surgeon even if he were unusually talented (which I suspect he is).

I'm not sure about the gatekeeping. Most people don't seem to realize just how little there is, and go though the whole rigmarole even if they don't need to.

Personally I'd choose Suporn because I think he produces the best results, and I'd still go if he was double the price, or more. The lack of gatekeeping is admittedly a bonus in my case.

So much hype though.

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Dr Suporn's proprietary technique was freely available. He attracted a great deal of interest from Western patients who were seeking - not just a "sex change" (a term we recognise that transsexuals very strongly dislike, and we do not use ourselves) - but a vulva as perfectly natural as it would have been had they been born with it.

Dr Suporn is not just "a surgeon in Thailand" but he is arguably the best SRS surgeon in the world, and the standard of care we give at the Clinic has no equals anywhere.

. We have every reason to believe that the old-fashioned penile inversion technique (which is presently carried out by most other surgeons) will become redundant and only undertaken by unskilled "low cost" surgeons within a few years when Dr Suporn's proprietary technique will become the world-accepted de facto standard.

Most gynaecologists are unable to readily detect a SRS done by Dr Suporn as being anything but genetic, while virtually every SRS performed by penile inversion is instantly recognisable as non-genetic - even by non experts.

Quote from: Serenation on February 28, 2016, 10:39:18 AM
So much hype though.

Yes and no. As far as I know information you quoted is not widely disseminated. Its not on their website and I don't think they send it out to potential clients. Its kind of odd as its a lot of writing (the full thing) for something they don't use in their marketing (which is practically non-existent). Probably not many people have ever seen it.