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FFS with Facial Team ARE THEY GOOD???

Started by RUBYYY, April 27, 2016, 08:17:06 AM

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RUBYYY

Im srearching for good clinic that made FFS for transgender girls , the side of FACIAL TEAM and everything is perfect...
Since im new here , are the results from girls here about tzhem more negative or positive???
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RUBYYY

Thank you i saw the pics he is really good
Do you know how about prices beetween them to
facial team has it from 8000eu to 20000eu
about VAN i cant find the costs have you???
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Lara1969

Facial Team are good, very good. One of the top surgeons worldwide. Me and a friend had full ffs there. Now we have a 100% passing, we hg Po ad no complications and a short healing. I worked on the 12th day after surgery full time (took 11 days off).
Happy girl from queer capital Berlin
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Paula1

Hi Ruby,

I had FFS with Facial Team exactly three weeks ago and I have never been happier.

My journey facially began in 2004 and you can read my first thread which will tell you about the first and seconds parts of my twelve year journey.

First thread:

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,180029.0.html

In addition I started this thread that is related to my 2004 facial surgery

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,200643.0.html

My final thread is current as I am still in the process of writing it and here it is:

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,199847.0.html

Enjoy your journey and decision making process ...  :)

Hugs

Paula



Quote from: RUBYYY on April 27, 2016, 08:17:06 AM
Im srearching for good clinic that made FFS for transgender girls , the side of FACIAL TEAM and everything is perfect...
Since im new here , are the results from girls here about tzhem more negative or positive???
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Laura_7

Quote from: RUBYYY on April 27, 2016, 12:45:25 PM
Thank you i saw the pics he is really good
Do you know how about prices beetween them to
facial team has it from 8000eu to 20000eu
about VAN i cant find the costs have you???

You could have a look here:

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,138066.msg1143163.html#msg1143163

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,200480.msg1782877.html#msg1782877

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=190455.0

With FT some people reported some issues with noses ... you might tell very clear what you want.


hugs
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RUBYYY

Lara and Paula thats wonderful was it above 20.000eu?
thw whole procedure
im sooo happy you are happy girls
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Paula1

Hi Ruby,

Here's my prices:

Complex Craniofacial reconstruction   
Complex third Rhinoplasty   
Liplift
Hospital Fees, Meds + Operating Theatre Reserved & 2 nights Private Room + Board
General Anaesthesia
Material costs (customised 3D model of the forehead for study)

Total 18250 EUROS = £14204.96 at current rate of 0.78

Remember that no jaw/chin work was needed or hairgrafting ...  :)
   
Quote from: RUBYYY on April 27, 2016, 05:43:02 PM
Lara and Paula thats wonderful was it above 20.000eu?
thw whole procedure
im sooo happy you are happy girls
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RUBYYY

Thank you very much dear Paula for sharing  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Paula1

Hi Ruby,

You are more than welcome ....  :)

Forgot to mention but this was the second upper lip lift as the first one was too weak and also the inappropriate fat was also removed that had the effect due to it's weight of negating the original ULL.

If it's not too much of a personal question, what part of the world are you from? No need to tell me if you don't wish to for privacy reasons.

Have a great day.

Hugs

Paula

Quote from: RUBYYY on April 28, 2016, 02:41:34 AM
Thank you very much dear Paula for sharing  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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RUBYYY

I am from Europe, so Spain would be my option
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Paula1

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David_Bovo

Quote from: RUBYYY on April 27, 2016, 12:45:25 PM
Thank you i saw the pics he is really good
Do you know how about prices beetween them to
facial team has it from 8000eu to 20000eu
about VAN i cant find the costs have you???

I think the cost is similar, but u can actually send a request with ur own pics, and the doctor Will tell u what he suggest u to do and the prices! ;)
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shoko

Go to Facial Team for the facial work, but avoid doing rhinoplasty or lip lift there!!
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RUBYYY

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Paula1

#14
Hi Ruby,

Shoko is not happy with the nose and upper lip lift done by Dr Bellinga recently, but I am.

I would love to see fotos of her nose and ULL before and after surgery but unless I do, I will not comment or give an opinion, for what it's worth.

I had a poor nose job and upper lip lift done in the USA in February 2004 and Dr Bellinga has done a good job on mine.

It was a very difficult procedure too as it was my third nose job.

In fact my complex forehead procedure took just 90 minutes but the rhinoplasty/ULL took 150 minutes. Total 4 hours and then 8 hours in recovery just to keep an eye on me due to my age.

So it's all a matter of opinion and personal taste whether you like a rhinoplasty or not.

Having had three attempts at my nose, now I am 100% happy although it's still very early days since the surgery ( three weeks and three days ), and it will be months before I see the final result which I will share with you all in due course.

The first few days after a rhinoplasty the nose almost always looks great and then the healing starts in earnest and the swelling starts and you think "Ohmigod "- what have I done and the surgeon has messed up.

With my healing process anyway, my nose always starts to look worse and worse for the first few weeks after surgery and then slowly it gets better. With others I have seen nose jobs that look good even after a month's healing has taken place. We all heal differently and at different rates.

The last five days or so, my top lip has become numb and fatter whereas a week ago it was not numb and less fat.

It also makes drinking and eating more difficult.

But I accept this although I don't like it as people look at me and see that I have had surgery. Yesterday when I was at an event, I kept telling people who I know that I had some cosmetic surgery when they asked what was wrong with my face as they were concerned that I had an accident.

All that I can say is you have to have patience with any surgery while the body takes time to heal.

What us girls go through eh to get where we wish to go?

I have seen in person around thirty of Facial Team's patients in London when they have been in consultation here and also in Spain who have had rhinoplasties with FT's Dr Bellinga and everyone looked good and I mean that 100%.

So I highly recommend FT for noses.

Here is my before foto with the piggy and too short nose for my face and ineffective ULL which was made even worse by the weight of the fat put in during surgery in the USA in 2004.



and after surgery in April with a decent sized nose, much better ULL and fat removed.



Just out of interest to you all. here is my nose about three weeks after my 2nd rhinoplasty in 2004 (USA) and look what a mess it looked. It took over a year for the nose and ULL scar to fully heal. To be fair, the ULL scar was hardly noticeable once it had healed but the nose was always incorrect for my face and I was left with a raised ridge below my right alars after it had healed. Dr Bellinga has removed that scar/ridge from the 2004 surgery when he performed the fresh ULL and also improved the right alarpasty incision from 2004. * Note also the over raised eyebrows !!! My bruising by the way from my recent surgery has now gone so what a difference then from 2004. Using an endoscope usually causes more disturbance to the soft tissues which you don't get with an open procedure.



Another foto of my face five weeks after surgery in 2004.

You can see also the poor forehead result due to burring whereas now my forehead is properly feminised.

Today I was seen by two friends of mine who had surgery also by the same surgeon as mine from 2004 and they were very impressed with my forehead/nose and ULL so far. But as we agreed, it's all too swollen at this moment before making a final judgement.



Incidentally if an ULL scar needs it, it can always be lasered to improve it's appearance down the healing road.

You are always going to get patients who are not satisfied with some or all aspects of their FFS, that's part of the game, so to speak.

Hugs

Paula

PS.

Here is a foto of me taken at 23 weeks and 5 days after my Feb 2004 rhinoplasty and ULL in the USA ( 6 months later in August 2004). See the ULL scarring/redness/swelling still which finally went away and the scar eventually was very good to be fair to the surgeon. Also my nose is less swollen but still piggy like. The whole surgery took another year to look optimal but during this time I had to travel to the USA and have kenalog (steroid) injections to my nose especially the right side which coincidentally is the most swollen part right now.

As the forehead swelling had largely subsided, you can also now see that the forehead was already looking poor and the transition area below my forehead and above my nose was never worked on/feminised in 2004.





My forehead 3D CT Scan in May 2015 before my April FT surgery



and afterwards two days after the surgery. What a difference !!!



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Paula1

Hi Ruby,

I don't want to repeat myself as I have also posted this on my thread but this afternoon I went food shopping at my local Tesco's (equivalent to Walmart in the USA in many ways ) and a cashier Sue that I have known for some time said that I looked amazing when I told her that I only had surgery 25 days ago. That really cheered me up ... :)

Frankly when I look at my face right now compared to where I was 12 years ago, the difference in my nose swelling and the ULL incision situation is in a different ball park. Also all the visible bruising has totally gone now.

I am exceedingly happy folks and looking forward to the rest of the holiday weekend.

I went for a 30 mile drive just now too.

Paula
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Paula1

Hi Denize,

Thank you for your lovely reply  < hugs >

I am stealth on Facebook so sadly I cannot be friends with you BUT we can keep in touch by e-mail or phone if you wish.

Let me know please by PM.

In the meantime take care and look after yourself.

I am shortly off to bed, lots of sleep is good for healing ....  ;)

Paula  xx

Quote from: RUBYYY on May 01, 2016, 02:14:01 PM
Paula you look amazing, and 1000000000 hugs and big thank you for sharing this all. im sooo happy for you, and am very anxious to save the money as soon as possiblle and go to Spain, they also send me what kind of fotos i have to make etc...
Thank you Paula
If you have facebook be free to add me its Denize taylor loncar
also anybody who need an extra friend and is also on they journey or ready to share good and bad days
Have all a wonderful Spring and may the universe make as fast as it is possiblle our dreams to become true
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RUBYYY

I am new at everything, cuz i start to search for help last year, i live as intersex my whole life and people knew me only as a girlie boy, or a masculine girl, or an androginist look like person, so i never fit anywhere, for gay guys i was to feminine, and i had no woody( sorry but its because of the genetics) thats why i have not lot bottom tissue so my srs surgeon in the future needs to know how to make a good depth out of not much tissue
Also my face i dont know what HRT will do, if the luck is on my side i think after blood results i need to start them in the end of the year, wich is good, cuz i have to loose weight, learn to stop bringe eating
Im very young but was very fast an adict of alcohol, smoked alot and used time to time drugs, everything because of my unhappiness and face dysforia
My fahter left me when i was little, well a long sad story my life has been those 24years so im hopping for happier next 25 years
Im finishing my univirsity , have some exams still, and have now only a as needed job, wich is only for money helping me my mama, so we have for food, and i can go to IPL laser and buy make up, i dont party, dont go out, dont have many friends who lives near, i live in a vilage so im very expoused to people 20km around me cuz its all so small, an extra suffering
So i hope to learn this years here more about a good FFS doctor for me
See what HRT will do to my Face
And hope i find soon a regular job to start save for FFS
Im thankful that here in europe FFS is not so expensive like in USA but still money is on the secont range cuz the most important thing is to find a good doctor
Bless you all with love, and if i do or write some mistakes forgive me im learning plus sorry for my english my german, slovenian or croatian is better but im giving my best
Now on 9th may is my birhtday and i have the first apoinment in the morning on this day with an edrocrilogist ehhe what a nice birthday gift, the last months i have had done the mental chek outs, as we need here in our Country fisrt do that and then you get the green light and go on to recive Hrt
lots of love Denize
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shoko

Thanks for sharing your story Denize, I wish you the best and you are young so you have time :)
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Paula1



Morning Denize,

I agree with all that Shoko has said to you.

Could not have said it better myself.

Just enjoy the journey now and life too.

It's an amazing trip and I would do it all again tomorrow despite all the ups and downs.

Hugs

Paula


Quote from: shoko on May 01, 2016, 10:31:47 PM
Thanks for sharing your story Denize, I wish you the best and you are young so you have time :)
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