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Started by stephaniec, July 23, 2016, 02:49:28 PM

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How do you see yourself

male
1 (2%)
female
21 (42.9%)
cis
1 (2%)
transgender
19 (38.8%)
other-explain
0 (0%)
non definable
1 (2%)
human-hominid
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more than one of above
6 (12.2%)

Total Members Voted: 49

stephaniec

Labels are meaningless , but just for fun, if you use a label how do you see yourself. I feel quite comfortable as trans, but this is just me.
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Deborah

I'm kind of split on this.  I'd like to get past thinking of myself as trans.  But it seems like it's a statement of physical fact so it won't go away.
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Barb99

I know I'm transgender, always will be, but I see myself as female.
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maya

I think of myself as trans. I am not cis female but have self-identified as female from a very young age.  I am living as a woman today but will never have the experience of childbirth or many other typical female experiences. I feel female with male history so trans fits best for myself. Besides I transitioned beginning in my 50s so T has made its lasting imprint.
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soon2b

Right now transgender, as I evolve in my transition I like transwomen
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Lady Sarah

I may have a deformity, but that will not stop me from being a woman.
started HRT: July 13, 1991
orchi: December 23, 1994
trach shave: November, 1998
married: August 16, 2015
Back surgery: October 20, 2016
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KathyLauren

At this point, I fell like a wannabe female.  Feminine tastes, but masculine history.  (Thanks, Maya, your expression fits me, too.)   So for the moment, I'd have to say that I am trans.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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RobinG78

I'm just restarting to find my female side again, after being suppressed for so long. memories stored way far away are coming back. I remember being in my grand parents room, and smelling gram's perfumes. my mom sold Avon and I loved to look and see what see had, I don't remember playing with any of it yet.

I can write so much more but I would hijack this thread...
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alex82

Quote from: maya on July 23, 2016, 05:39:25 PM
I think of myself as trans. I am not cis female but have self-identified as female from a very young age.  I am living as a woman today but will never have the experience of childbirth or many other typical female experiences. I feel female with male history so trans fits best for myself. Besides I transitioned beginning in my 50s so T has made its lasting imprint.

Is childbirth essential? A quarter to a third of women don't do it, and considerably more than that don't enjoy any part of it, and would use a lab if they could. I love those who are secure enough in their femininity to just admit it.

As to the question, I see myself as me, for better or worse. And the 'typical female experiences' - let's say the male gaze to the point of severe irritation, being sexually exposed, and discussed on those terms in my presence (by some women too I might add), followed (to the point that elderly Arabic women in full niqab have joined me so I'm not alone), having guys in cars kerb crawl to ask me how much I charge (from the age of 12), being spoken over in meetings or ignored in bar chats when 'serious' subjects are being discussed, by men with less to contribute than I do, being told I'm emotionally a 'loose cannon' for simply saying how I feel, and in less enlightened countries and circles, actually left with 'the girls' while the men do their thing, not that it bothers me at all, the conversation is better with women - that's been my life anyway.

On that conversation, I find it far more amusing, witty, nuanced, and wide ranging - with honourable exceptions for a good few men. There are one or two people online I've come across who are far more explicit than nearly all women, except when drunk and with a good friend, and is more akin to stuff I've heard in gay bars. It's not 'typical girl talk' at all, and it's pretty uncomfortable, like some kind of sad hyper parody, almost threatening in its sexual assumption, entitlement, and forcefulness, and insulting to women generally.

I have enough 'typical' experiences to be going on with, more than some women, and differently to most men. Many women and the majority of men have been genuinely shocked and horrified at kerb crawlers being so explicit - the women less so, but still (apart from some who had the same thing in their own teens) consider that worse and more in your face than they've had.

I'd certainly physically have a child if I could, and if they ever find a way to transplant a uterus, I'll do it. But I don't see it as an essential female experience, and some of my oldest and best friends are childfree (either through choice or biology) and are utterly female.
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Atom

Female. I never label myself as transgender.

I left school at 16 and went to college as a girl. I do not have social interactions as a male in my adult life to fall back on or to compare and contrast.

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Jean24

Quote from: alex82 on July 23, 2016, 09:58:27 PM
Is childbirth essential? A quarter to a third of women don't do it, and considerably more than that don't enjoy any part of it, and would use a lab if they could. I love those who are secure enough in their femininity to just admit it.

As to the question, I see myself as me, for better or worse. And the 'typical female experiences' - let's say the male gaze to the point of severe irritation, being sexually exposed, and discussed on those terms in my presence (by some women too I might add), followed (to the point that elderly Arabic women in full niqab have joined me so I'm not alone), having guys in cars kerb crawl to ask me how much I charge (from the age of 12), being spoken over in meetings or ignored in bar chats when 'serious' subjects are being discussed, by men with less to contribute than I do, being told I'm emotionally a 'loose cannon' for simply saying how I feel, and in less enlightened countries and circles, actually left with 'the girls' while the men do their thing, not that it bothers me at all, the conversation is better with women - that's been my life anyway.

On that conversation, I find it far more amusing, witty, nuanced, and wide ranging - with honourable exceptions for a good few men. There are one or two people online I've come across who are far more explicit than nearly all women, except when drunk and with a good friend, and is more akin to stuff I've heard in gay bars. It's not 'typical girl talk' at all, and it's pretty uncomfortable, like some kind of sad hyper parody, almost threatening in its sexual assumption, entitlement, and forcefulness, and insulting to women generally.

I have enough 'typical' experiences to be going on with, more than some women, and differently to most men. Many women and the majority of men have been genuinely shocked and horrified at kerb crawlers being so explicit - the women less so, but still (apart from some who had the same thing in their own teens) consider that worse and more in your face than they've had.

I'd certainly physically have a child if I could, and if they ever find a way to transplant a uterus, I'll do it. But I don't see it as an essential female experience, and some of my oldest and best friends are childfree (either through choice or biology) and are utterly female.

It definitely detracts from womanhood. Just like being born without legs, eyes, or a functional brain detracts from the human experience in general. The same goes with not being able to manufacture your own hormones, not being able to reproduce, having the incorrect genitals, and having an extremely masculinized face detract from being a woman. I've yet to meet the transgender woman who is secure enough in her femininity to completely forego things like HRT, FFS, and SRS simply because we happen to be able to survive without them. For some of us, the next generation of regenerative medicine can't come quickly enough.
Trying to take it one day at a time :)
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warlockmaker

I am transgender and proud to be the third gender. I pass 100pct female in my appearance and behavior but I choose to inform others I am trans. I lied my whole life and kept my great secret, this lie filled my being and dictated my life. I have found peace and happiness and will not have one lie replace another. I am trans and I'm living my dream.
When we first start our journey the perception and moral values all dramatically change in wonderment. As we evolve further it all becomes normal again but the journey has changed us forever.

SRS January 21st,  2558 (Buddhist calander), 2015
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Morganna

I would be one of the happiest creatures in the world if I could simply say I am happy living as a fully blessed woman, however I am sadly conscious and aware that the past will always be there following me as a shadow that will never go away. At this moment it isn't a problem in my life, for I have came up to terms that I am a transgender woman, but hey, it's cool, I am able to be the harridan I always dreamed I'd be when I was nothing but a babe.
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Sebby Michelango

I see myself as a guy. Transgender is just something I'm born as, but it doesn't define me as a person. Some people are born with blonde hair, some with brown hair and other is born without legs. The diversity of us humans are a part of us, but not everything. I wouldn't tell everybody I'm transgender like other wouldn't tell me about their private things. That's a thing only family, friends and close-related people should know. When I come out, I would present myself as a guy. If people thinks I'm cis, it's alright. People doesn't need to know every single thing about everybody they meets.
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Atom

I know a few ladies who have chosen not to have kids, reduce their periods etc and they certainly dont think anything is detracted from them. But that's horses and courses, like a lot if things.

I still have male downstairs bits and I'm fine with that.

Its not a money issue, or the fact they annoy me.  SRS ticks a nice to have box, but not essential. If/when I can be bothered to research UK surgeons and part with the cash I will do.
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stephaniec

I think my view would change if I had GRS .I'm pre op so I'm constantly aware of my condition so my view is more in terms of trans. I think though that if I had GRS I'd have more of a tendency to leave trans behind although it would still be there, but far more out of my everyday conscious .
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JoanneB

Quote from: stephaniec on July 23, 2016, 02:49:28 PM
Labels are meaningless ....
Pretty much exactly what my therapist told me a few weeks back

This is so difficult for me to answer. I never saw myself as male, always felt/new I was female on the inside, have a well entrenched "Male" existence and a pretty well dug in female body, heart, and soul. A good percentage of what makes me me is/was "male" oriented. Yeah, I know some also love seeing things blow up like Kari from Myth Busters.

At the end of the day, "Non-Definable" AKA Non-Binary (Today) is the most accurate. Likely will be same for a few more years to come.

The answer from my heart - Female
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WolfNightV4X1

Trigender Pyrofox, of course

(are jokes allowed here?)

I am simply male, nothing fancy. Well...biologically speaking I do not view myself as such, I tend to restrict female and male as medical and biological terms, because it is necessary to differentiate at times. But I'm a guy


I have to agree with several posts here, I can't change the past, I cant (entirely) change the present (not all physical traits), I will always carry that X that marks my sex, and the build I ended up with as a result, but never will I carry that neurological aspect of it. I am only trans because social standings do not change, people's sexualities do not change, and people's mindsets do not change. If this will forever technically put me in some 'third gender' category then so be it, I'm well aware I cant truly fit either entirely. But me? Always knew I leaned man.

I'm never identifying as a girl again, only fakely so to avoid psychological/social conflict.


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alex82

Quote from: Jean24 on July 24, 2016, 04:02:18 AM
It definitely detracts from womanhood. Just like being born without legs, eyes, or a functional brain detracts from the human experience in general. The same goes with not being able to manufacture your own hormones, not being able to reproduce, having the incorrect genitals, and having an extremely masculinized face detract from being a woman. I've yet to meet the transgender woman who is secure enough in her femininity to completely forego things like HRT, FFS, and SRS simply because we happen to be able to survive without them. For some of us, the next generation of regenerative medicine can't come quickly enough.

I didn't suggest going without any of those things. Nowhere at all did I even hint at going without those three things.

Some people don't have an extremely masculinization face by the way.
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Wild Flower

"Anyone who believes what a cat tells him deserves all he gets."
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