I would cause being trans sucks...among other things that would be too inappropriate for the members here to even discuss, so I won't even go there. >.>

Quote from: Tristyn on July 31, 2016, 05:14:02 PM
I would cause being trans sucks...among other things that would be too inappropriate for the members here to even discuss, so I won't even go there. >.>

I would respect your opinion. I'm fine with people feels comfortable about the brain surgery thought and that they find being transgender difficult.

Not a chance in hell. My body and my mind are one and the same, I'm fully a man and yes I have this body. I'm not the first one in history, either.

It's a fairly recent thing, some 2000 years in the last 80000 years of the existence of gender that someone said (in a pervasive and culturally bullying way) that there is only two options. Basically the currently widespread model says that there are only two right combos, XX-woman and XY-man. Everything else must be a bad moral choice or if you can't help it then it must be a medical condition. Sorry but this is just a recent and local (very disruptive) cultural view that went aggressively viral with colonisation.

Quote from: Asche on July 31, 2016, 08:18:00 AM
Our transness is nothing but an example of the natural and normal variation you find in any healthy population, but which has been pathologized by the small-minded people who insist that reality has to fit into their narrow little categories.  ("If Reality doesn't fit into my idea of how things are, it's Reality that's wrong, not me.")  It's bad enough that transphobic cis people think that our essential natures need to be eradicated, why do we have to buy into their bigotry?

Exactly.

I would say yes, I'd have the brain surgery. After all, I've had lots of surgery etc... trying to get my body to be more female. If I could have skipped all that and just ditched the dysphoria? Hell yes!
Would have been easier on my family too.

Nope


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No. Partly because I think the way I am lets me see both sides of the gender equation and I value that very much. I can relate to men and women equally. The other reason is everything Asche said. Diversity is good and healthy for a society.

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I am perfectly fine with taking medication to change some of my brain chemistry, since that is what depression medication is doing. What I'm not okay with is changing the actual brain matter in my head, since that is what makes me who I am. I may be flawed, but I don't want to just erase myself even if my replacement is less flawed than I am.

Hi, I'm Chris from Sweden and joined today. 48YO, 16mts on HRT, 2 Step FFS, pre op for GRA and BA.

When I think about that question I would always have said: "No way folks, I am what I am". I'm passing quite well, but looking back to all the struggle that I had and still have, It's worth to discuss. I sometimes feel like a restless hunter for feminity, fearing that I will always be a 3rd class girl with a quite female face (at least with some make up) but a doorkeeper's back. Endless time at the voice training and still I feel it's so hard to learn all that stuff that natural girls learn from childhood on, the walking, the moving of the hands, the gestures, the style , the choice of fashion, make-up in all variations, making the hair, the way of flattering,  the solidarity among girls, all that stuff.

I don't want to go back to a male's life since this is - in my point of view - so limited. But I'm not proud to be trans, my transition was more some kind of emergency action since I had the choice between making that transition or killing myself. I would prefer a brain surgery that gives me full consciousness about the fact that I always have been a CIS-girl. Life would be so much easier.

Quote from: Chris Gothenburg on August 04, 2016, 02:13:42 PM
Hi, I'm Chris from Sweden and joined today. 48YO, 16mts on HRT, 2 Step FFS, pre op for GRA and BA.

When I think about that question I would always have said: "No way folks, I am what I am". I'm passing quite well, but looking back to all the struggle that I had and still have, It's worth to discuss. I sometimes feel like a restless hunter for feminity, fearing that I will always be a 3rd class girl with a quite female face (at least with some make up) but a doorkeeper's back. Endless time at the voice training and still I feel it's so hard to learn all that stuff that natural girls learn from childhood on, the walking, the moving of the hands, the gestures, the style , the choice of fashion, make-up in all variations, making the hair, the way of flattering,  the solidarity among girls, all that stuff.

I don't want to go back to a male's life since this is - in my point of view - so limited. But I'm not proud to be trans, my transition was more some kind of emergency action since I had the choice between making that transition or killing myself. I would prefer a brain surgery that gives me full consciousness about the fact that I always have been a CIS-girl. Life would be so much easier.

Hej Chris! Welcome to the forum, in fact "Hej hej hemskt mycket hej!"
I can really connect with some of what you say:

"I sometimes feel like a restless hunter for feminity, fearing that I will always be a 3rd class girl with a quite female face (at least with some make up) but a doorkeeper's back. Endless time at the voice training and still I feel it's so hard to learn all that stuff that natural girls learn from childhood on, the walking, the moving of the hands, the gestures, the style , the choice of fashion, make-up in all variations, making the hair, the way of flattering,  the solidarity among girls, all that stuff. I had the choice between making that transition or killing myself."

I could have written that about myself! I guess many of us have similar journeys and struggles.

I agree with Tristyn up there, being Trans sucks. I'm constantly nothing but miserable, I hate my life almost every minute, and I'm always so sure I'll never be able to come out and be stuck feeling this way my whole life.

But even so I would never want this part of me taken away. It's so ridiculous as my life has become so hard since realizing I was trans, but I would never change that fact even for a second. I may hate myself a good amount of the time as I said, but at the same time I love the thought and image of who I'm really meant to be, like a warm fire in the center of my body when I'm really thinking on it. I never want that to go away. I never want to lost the possibility of feeling that every minute of every day.

No, because we are more than just the product of our physical parts. My life experiences, my accumulated knowledge, my emotional and spiritual depth is not something I'm willing to part with, especially not in exchange for being cis in a body that I currently despise. My GD is part of my identity, and my path is to learn how to overcome it and become my true self. It's not just about the goal, it's about the journey.

I'd have said yes until relatively recently, but not anymore. No way. I don't even know why, since I've not socially transitioned and I'm not entirely happy with it all, but there's something about being trans that I've come to appreciate. I can't figure it out.

No I wouldn't want to. My mum has asked me this same question before and prayed for me to change my mind (she is Christian) but to change this would basically be completely changing who I am as a person. Which feels like it would just be killing me off and putting a new person in my body.

No way in hell. If I did that, I wouldn't be myself anymore.

Quote from: Reyes on August 04, 2016, 05:13:31 PM
I agree with Tristyn up there, being Trans sucks. I'm constantly nothing but miserable, I hate my life almost every minute, and I'm always so sure I'll never be able to come out and be stuck feeling this way my whole life.

But even so I would never want this part of me taken away. It's so ridiculous as my life has become so hard since realizing I was trans, but I would never change that fact even for a second. I may hate myself a good amount of the time as I said, but at the same time I love the thought and image of who I'm really meant to be, like a warm fire in the center of my body when I'm really thinking on it. I never want that to go away. I never want to lost the possibility of feeling that every minute of every day.

I hated myself worse before I could put a name on being transgender, before that I just thought that I was a "strange woman" with bad social skills and problems relating to other women. Then I came back to the realization I had before my early teens that I wanted to grow up to be a man.

Quote from: Laura_Squirrel on July 31, 2016, 04:05:47 PM
As far as the disclosure issue is concerned:Aside from a possible romantic partner or a doctor, it's nobody's business. It's not my responsibility to educate the ignorant dullards out there. If they can't be bothered to educate themselves. That is their problem and not mine.

Being trans is nothing more than a medical issue to me. When it comes to that and talking about it. I could say: "Well, take your pick. Which one would you like to talk about?", since I have more than a few things to deal with. But, I don't. Because I don't feel like discussing it with strangers (or my family for that matter).

This is good, but for me it also feels like a spiritual transformation and when asked to explain to people who have no information I just tell them it's an inborn medical problem and I was born with the brain of a male, and that this feels like a spiritual transition to me as much as a medical one.