So I just got a new job with an employer who doesn't discriminate against gender identity. I'm about to get my letter for hrt in the next couple of weeks and am hoping to start by the first week of October. So do I tell them when I start to notice changes or as soon as I possibly can?

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You said they are non discriminatory. Then I submit that why not be up front with it?.  Take it from someone who hid her whole lire, and ended up with a break down. No, I say be true to yourself if you are capable.

Quote from: DawnOday on September 11, 2016, 05:04:56 PM
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You said they are non discriminatory. Then I submit that why not be up front with it?.  Take it from someone who hid her whole lire, and ended up with a break down. No, I say be true to yourself if you are capable.

I start next week, so like on my first day I should go to hr and tell them my intentions?


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My view is as you are just starting HRT, see how you feel when you are on them. A very small number of people are uncomfortable with HRT and rethink the entire transition. You will have months before noticeable changes take place so I would suggest you consider waiting until after you are through probation which is often 3 months. Also by then you may have a better idea when you will want to start your transition and you can bring a time table to the discussion.

Quote from: Dena on September 11, 2016, 09:35:18 PM
My view is as you are just starting HRT, see how you feel when you are on them. A very small number of people are uncomfortable with HRT and rethink the entire transition. You will have months before noticeable changes take place so I would suggest you consider waiting until after you are through probation which is often 3 months. Also by then you may have a better idea when you will want to start your transition and you can bring a time table to the discussion.

What is probation? Also, I know when I want to start my transition. As soon as I get my letter, which is hopefully next week.


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Quote from: supergirl23 on September 11, 2016, 04:54:17 PM
So I just got a new job with an employer who doesn't discriminate against gender identity. I'm about to get my letter for hrt in the next couple of weeks and am hoping to start by the first week of October. So do I tell them when I start to notice changes or as soon as I possibly can?

It depends on the state you are employed in.  While most professions have a probation period, if you live in California, it is an 'at will' employment state so really, probation tends to be meaningless in reality as they do not really need to give cause.  You should check the laws in your state to see if passing probation means that your employer has to have a valid cause to fire you. 

I understand about wanting to get off to an honest start, but it is not like you are hiding a criminal history.  When you tell them about your transition, they should see that it is not exactly an easy thing to say to an employer even with a non-discrimination policy.  All the flowery words in the world mean nothing if you end up with hostility directed towards you for coming out. 

You will have to judge how you think they will respond in reality.

Good luck!

Quote from: supergirl23 on September 11, 2016, 09:42:40 PM
What is probation? Also, I know when I want to start my transition. As soon as I get my letter, which is hopefully next week.


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Pretty much what the word means. When you hire on, they don't have a clue how you will work out. They can terminate you much easer while you are on probations than after. In addition, you may not qualify for company benefits like health insurance or retirement programs until after probation is over. Most of the time you get a review at the end of probation when they make the final decision to keep you.

So when I go into orientation this week, I should ask about the probation period?


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It might come up in the company  policy review or they  may  mention a 90 day review and that would be the tip off. Also, like I said if they tell you that the health plan kicks in after your first 90 days. If the clues don't happen in the regular conversation, then ask if you are curious. I have always  assumed there was one at the jobs I worked at.

25 years ago when I was running the art department for a very large construction company one of my co workers who ran another department and was just starting her transition went to the owner and general manager with the news of what she was doing, she was totally expecting a negative outcome and was prepared to move on. She was very surprised when they said they would fully support her with everything possible to make working there as safe and comfortable as they could, and with her permission they sent out a company wide memo stating that harassment, bullying or off color negative comments will not be tolerated on company facilities or job sites.
Her experience during the years I worked there was wonderful and it's been 10 years since I left the company, she is also one of the first people I called when I came out five years ago, she was surprised but very happy for me and a bit humbled when I told her that she was always a big inspiration for me.

Quote from: supergirl23 on September 11, 2016, 04:54:17 PM
So I just got a new job with an employer who doesn't discriminate against gender identity. I'm about to get my letter for hrt in the next couple of weeks and am hoping to start by the first week of October. So do I tell them when I start to notice changes or as soon as I possibly can?

There's no real reason to tell them until you're ready to present at work, or you're legally changing your name.  Just feel comfortable that whenever you're ready you won't get fired for it

Quote from: supergirl23 on September 11, 2016, 06:45:41 PM
I start next week, so like on my first day I should go to hr and tell them my intentions?


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I find when I am up front, there does not seem to be as much reaction when someone finds you are lying or covering up.
I would believe you would be able to find an ally. After a long time as a boss, I find it is the commitment to the job and not the sex of the applicant that makes the difference. In my opinion you could look like Quasimodo, as long as your get the job done. And while I have never hired a Quasimoto. I have hired some ugly Dudes and Dudettes. Work habits, sense of humor, friendliness are all criteria I use and as long as you wear the proper clothing for the job, to keep the workplace safe. Where there are no safety concerns then the sky is the limit. But good taste is appreciated everywhere.
As to probation and benefits. Most probation lasts 90 days, after which you assume all the benefits offered by the company, Probation is the period of time you will be on review to find out your work ethic, how you handle stress, I look for people with ideas and a good attitude as well as the other criteria I listed previously. I have on occasion fired people for not performing to standards.Now unions no matter how much I like the concept once you make it past probation, you really have to be incompetent and even then if you show up on time every day you've passed the unions criteria for job performance. That's a little sarcastic but not really that much. My job was to meet schedules.Waiting for a union employee to come to move a printer over a couple feet when I could have done it myself in 20 seconds, but ended up waiting for two days. If I would have moved it, I would have been reprimanded.