I'm thinking I could possibly have too much estrogen in me. My body, and facial hair (especially) is growing faster than ever, and I'm feeling a bit more tired, and emotionless lately. Are we allowed to post our levels?

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Blood test results are permitted but the dosage you take isn't. Testosterone will convert to estrogen but estrogen will not covert to testosterone. The lack of testosterone can result feeling you have less energy and a more peaceful feeling where your emotions are no longer the testosterone fueled emotions of before. I may take a few months for things to stabilize at the new levels but if you feel really off, you should contact your doctor.

I remember pre surgery but on HRT that my E levels were all over the place from 180 and reaching over 800 at times. My very experienced therapist's advise was that as long as you feel good- sleep well, feel happy you should not worry too much Being pre op on HRT your body and mind may need a higher dosage, the body just pees away the excess. Endocronoligist are not so familiar with hormones levels for m to f on HR pre op. Seems post op the levels are consistant and easily managable, now steady at 230 range and I have tests done every 6 months.

The way you are describing hair growth and sleeping issues are similar to being off estrogen pre surgery. As you can post your blood tests please let us know the level.

Dena who is very knowlegeable has good points. Maybe other ladies have more to say.

Thank you all for your responses so far! My levels are something like 200 estrogen, and 20 testosterone. Does that mean anything?

Quote from: RedheadWhovian on October 01, 2016, 12:40:45 AM
Thank you all for your responses so far! My levels are something like 200 estrogen, and 20 testosterone. Does that mean anything?

Yes.  You are a healthy young woman.

Adult females run 15-70 ng/dL testosterone, and Estrodiol can be anywhere from 30 to 370 pg/ml, low in follicular phase and high at ovulatory peak.  Doctors working with transwoman in transition seem to aim for something like 150-200.

Range in women is actually wider, based on varying lab ranges, as low as 20, as high as 649 pg/ml.

http://www.specialtylabs.com/clients/outreach/web/site/details.asp?tid=44312&cid=301&keyword=

Levels go even higher during pregnancy, up to 75,000. Really, there is no such thing as normal or an ideal level. It depends on everyone and some argue that dose should be titrated according to physical and mental results alone, regardless of numbers. I agree.

I didn't do well at 200-300. Did better at around 500+. Everyone is different.

What does it then mean when I see that during the peaks of the cycle (when I am taking the most amounts of estradiol), my hands roughen up?  I'm checking to see in subsequent cycles (if my doctor will allow me to continue on this) whether this is a repeatable pattern.  I noticed that when coming off the secondary peak into the end of my cycle (when I am at the base dosage), my hands would soften back up a bit.  I guess I need more time, as cycling is very recent for me (ending second cycle, in fact).

after being <90 estradiol and >30 testosterone while on pills/patches over the last 2 1/2 years, the last 3 months on IM have left me feeling absolutely fantastic, with 2 days before my next injection I was at 220 estradiol and 11 testosterone and am beginning to feel sluggish.  So for me, I can only imagine my levels are much higher early on when I feel my best.  I think it means your body is functioning at a higher level when hair grows quicker...  Get that facial hair zapped!

I'm meeting my endo tomorrow and wonder if anyone could help with our conversation.

My last 3 Oestradiol readings have been 106, 263 and then 228 pmol/L. I'm on patches and the dose was increased 50% between the first and second reading and the patch type was changed between the second and third reading. The purpose of the patch change was because my endo though my E levels were low for the dose I was on (which isn't small). I'm on a very effective AA so T is minimal.

Does anyone know what the problem may be and what can be done? I'm with the UK NHS so cost isn't the driving factor here.

TIA

J

Quote from: Mohini on October 01, 2016, 12:55:37 PM
What does it then mean when I see that during the peaks of the cycle (when I am taking the most amounts of estradiol), my hands roughen up?

Estradiol inhibits sebum (oil) production, hence making skin drier.

Quote from: Dena on September 30, 2016, 06:47:50 PM
Blood test results are permitted but the dosage you take isn't. Testosterone will convert to estrogen but estrogen will not covert to testosterone. The lack of testosterone can result feeling you have less energy and a more peaceful feeling where your emotions are no longer the testosterone fueled emotions of before. I may take a few months for things to stabilize at the new levels but if you feel really off, you should contact your doctor.

I agree with the above.  I too have been feeling sluggish. I'm post orchie a few years, and it rally slowed me down.  I'm taking almost as "E" much as I did before the Orchie.  But, I may have to try Testosterone (YUCK)cream to up my libido.

My E count was at a low 50 and then 30...so they up'd it. I know that a lot of times they figure we will be at a post menopausal numbers, but I'm not sold on that.  I'd just chat with as many Trans doctors/professionals as you can to get what you need taken care of.

I wish you luck on that.

Quote from: KayXo on October 06, 2016, 12:32:07 PM
Estradiol inhibits sebum (oil) production, hence making skin drier.

And I hear micronized progesterone can help with that.  Is that right?  I see the doctor in 6 days.

Estrogen is known for slowing down facial hair growth and not speeding up. It would be a good idea to check with your doctor. It's possible your estrogen levels are a bit low. Hugs
Mariah

Quote from: KarmaGirl on October 06, 2016, 03:22:35 PM
I agree with the above.  I too have been feeling sluggish. I'm post orchie a few years, and it rally slowed me down.  I'm taking almost as "E" much as I did before the Orchie.  But, I may have to try Testosterone (YUCK)cream to up my libido.

My E count was at a low 50 and then 30...so they up'd it.

I have plenty of libido and find that high enough E gives me energy and libido. My levels are in the thousands. Supervised by three doctors, one of whom wrote a book on female hormones. In some, progesterone ups libido without androgenic effects. I would, personally, NEVER resort to testosterone. Cisfemales may have some, but we don't have the same history and started out males.

Quote from: Mohini on October 07, 2016, 01:14:32 PM
And I hear micronized progesterone can help with that.  Is that right?  I see the doctor in 6 days.

It helps for some people but it did nothing for my skin and hair. So lotion and conditioner is my best friend. Anyways try it out for yourself to see if it works for you.

Lack of effect from progesterone may have been from too low a dose as its bio-availability is quite poor and varies among individuals. Estrogen reduces oil production from the skin. This should be looked into with your doctor, though.