I'm trying to make my voice sound more femine, I have a bit of difficulty especially since I hear different my voice to how others hear it, so it might not actually sound femine like I thought, any tips please?

There are many voice training video, you can try work on it. I don't have a feminine voice too, what I do I start by speaking on feminine tone and feeling. I still try to work on pitch but I didn't find the right pitch yet.

I have it easy for voice training. All I need to do is imitate myself talking on the phone, to real life out and about talking and I'll get it. I've had way too many phone calls in the past that always ended up in "Have a great day/night ma'am"

Maybe try recording your own voice as of talking at what you do normally. Slowly fine tuning yourself by recording again, and by changing your "inner voice" with certain variances. Keep on doing that until you can produce a more feminine voice, and try to maintain that inner voice, building to where you wouldn't need to think to just have it natural. This is my suggestion.

Kate <3

Hi, here's a link to voice training information...
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,346.0.html

Imo the most important part is consistent training. Every day, only a few minutes in the beginning.
Simply reading a book for example.
It takes months.
Never overstrain your voice, just stop then. And drink some water from time to time to keep the throat moist.

To avoid errors some people consult a voice trainer in the beginning.

Some people have used different available training packs, with hints, but its necessary to train nonetheless.


There are a few different techniques. Falsetto, etc.

I read a hint of someone stating that she trained a higher register for a few days and it felt like a click and she was there.
I found that helpful, the falsetto method goes much higher.
Its simply raising the voice a bit and trying to reduce resonance in the chest area, moving the voice to the head area.
It can be checked in the beginning by laying a hand on the chest from time to time, if there are vibrations there it should be felt.

There is a software called overtone analyzer. Its free in its basic function.
For target levels and hints you might have a look at
nyspeechandvoicelab dot net/transgender/voice-feminization
The software is only necessary from time to time imo.
Target levels should be only a guide, having a few deep undertones in females sounds sexy.

Another good idea is to record and listen afterwards, less and less necessary with some practise.

Females have much more intonation, voice going up and down much more... within words and at the end of a sentence....
they have a softer and a bit "breathy" voice...
and females use more indirect language... like would you....

I'd say just take your time... and practise... it really takes time...

but many others have succeeded, you can do it, too


hugs

Thank you.

Seriously: worry about it less! I've got (had) a deep-ish voice, that was somewhat put on as I wanted to sound more masculine after puberty. Prior to it breaking I used to get laughed at because I sounded like a girl. How right they were. I've raised it a little of late, in an effort to re-discover what I used to sound like before I started pretending. Which, in reality, is badly modulated Essex.

Anyway the key, I think, to passability comes from the confidence to use it. I've seen trans people who deliberately avoid speaking, or keep words to a minimal muttered mumble. Which isn't how women really talk. Some have deeper voices than me, most don't. However they aren't self conscious about being mis-gendered when they speak. As I'm not either.

Natural eye contact, open manner, smile and be friendly. Move your hands, be tactile, change facial expressions, turn and face who you're speaking to, laugh, whisper, exaggerate and show emotion. Similarly jump about between topics, say how you feel and focus on the people rather than the things.

Remember that so much of communication is non-verbal. When I'm out, and dressed and in shops and stuff, I chat to people. Warmth and friendliness are such nice qualities to project that misleading cues can simply disappear.

All I'm aiming for is to give the impression of: 'oh there's a woman who sounds a bit like a man'. Which is, when you strip away everything, the truth. Pitch and timbre and harmonics and whatever are way off in my case! Yet the thing is; I might sound like a man but I don't talk like one. It's an imperfect method, but it's free and relatively easy! Once you start being 'madam' you'll get called it. Honestly. Even on the phone, when I use my old name and old voice, I still get the odd "oh really" sort of reaction. You've got to go for the unconscious; in that I'll never have Rebecca Front's voice, or even Lucy Alexander's, but I've got mine! It's not that feminine, in fact it's dreadful, but it's a woman's voice!

Oh, and did I say smile? Men generally don't - I have no idea why.

Hey, girls!

I just downloaded Overtone Analyzer for Mac.
One question: how do I use target levels?

Thank you!

i am more visual and tactile and not musically inclined so a lot of the dvds and tutorial did not work for me.....I think I am what you call in music tone deaf ...so I researched and read a lot of stuff about tongue, lips and jaw placement when speaking and that gave me results .... then My voice never gets clocked even on the phone but it is a conscious effort,I still slip sometimes and I forget when I get so engrossed in a discussion hence the voice surgery with Dr. Haben.... Still recovering but seems promising, the explosiveness and resonance is gone and the pitch is higher.....I researched and researched and kept notes and analyzed and put them together what helped me is keep in mind to place your tongue forward and up towards your palate and touching your molars when you speak like when you say "keeeeeys"..... "Eeeeeeee"....lips smiling position and jaw a little forward.... The smaller and tighter the space/cavity the higher the pitch and the lesser the resonance.... Hope that heps a little goodluck!

The hardest part for me in the beginning was overcoming the embarrassment of using my new voice in public, but I got through it by caring more about my progress than I did about being embarrassed. The real progress happens when you always use your new voice, and eventually it becomes your natural voice even when you hear your thoughts in your head.