Thank you my girls, may the life bless you with only beautiful things

I just used a first class plastic surgeon for work on my face. I'm lucky I guess since my features were pretty female anyway. I had a complete face lift & eye lid work 2 years ago & I look so much better.

Hi FrancisAnn,

That's awesome ...

You are one of the more fortunate girls.

When I look at my pre surgery fotos before 2004, I was very attractive and passable except for the forehead which has taken 12 years to get right, thanks to poor surgery. G'rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!! The day that I was sold a second nose job in 2004 was a very bad day for me.



One of the patient's mother in Spain last month looked at my fotos and thought in some shots that I looked like Julia Roberts. This was taken in 1999 when I was 54.



Hugs

Paula

Quote from: FrancisAnn on May 02, 2016, 05:35:23 AM
I just used a first class plastic surgeon for work on my face. I'm lucky I guess since my features were pretty female anyway. I had a complete face lift & eye lid work 2 years ago & I look so much better.

Quote from: shoko on April 30, 2016, 08:39:19 AM
Go to Facial Team for the facial work, but avoid doing rhinoplasty or lip lift there!!

Dear Shoko

I am an Asian MTF considering FFS either at FT or in Korea(Faceline).May I know your thoughts on if the facial work at FT is good?

Regards
Isla

I am also considering Facialteam for FFS. The prices are average and the surgery seems to be good. Some peopple complain about the rhinoplasty and to be honest, some of the pictures in the gallery show not the perfect noses, but some of them I like, so it probably is more a matter of the things you have to work with. Dr Bellinga who does Rhinoplasty with the team has a facebook website with more pictures of surgeries he does independently and I think most of them look very good, actually. I am not sure if a feminizing rhinoplasty is more complex than a rhinoplasty on other women?

Facialteam has in my opinion some advantages and some disadvantages.

What I like about them is that they are very concerned about the patients and their wishes, the consultations are great, they explain it very well. They also use quite good 3D imaging before the surgery and actually 3D-print a model of your skull to plan the surgery with, I believe. They have specialists for each part of the face , which can be an advantage (more specialization) or a disadvantage (not one surgeon planning the overall aesthetics).

I like that they have a recovery house for patients to stay in for the first days instead of going to a hotel alone.

I really like their gallery which is IMO the best so far since it shows very comparable pictures before and after from the precisely right angles and views. I dislike this in other FFS websites, that they just show any casual pictures, sometimes comparing pre-transition photos with post-surgery photos that are made with good makeup and new hairstyle.

I also like that they do the coronal incision for forehead surgery and shape the hairline with transplants - this is IMO safer in terms of recovery of the nerves on the scalp and the scar is better hidden, but it limits the amount of hairline advance if that is an issue.

I believe however they are striving very much for more natural looks and tend to change rather less than more, for some patients this may be not enough, if they want to see very drastic changes.

Sadly the lip lift seems to be donw with the "bullhorn" method and not the newer endonasal technique, I am not sure if this is  done because the rhinoplasty is done at the same time and it would not work otherwise or if they just did not yet adapt the newer technique.

Quote from: Isla24Irisviel on February 12, 2017, 05:21:28 PM
Dear Shoko

I am an Asian MTF considering FFS either at FT or in Korea(Faceline).May I know your thoughts on if the facial work at FT is good?

Regards
Isla

Dear Isla,

Love your name, I actually almost chose that one before deciding on my actual name change

I'm not familiar with Faceline, but as far as Facial Team I think my advice above stands.

Dear Shoko

I see

From what I've felt FT can do work on the face.But a nagging question has always been:Can they make me pretty as well?I guess I'm greedy anyway.But FFS and SRS is the last thing I want to do in my life(even if I'm 24 years old)

Oh,Isla is adapted from an anime character Irisviel.It also means an island in Scottish.Its the island of utopia..the island of dreams beyond all dreams

Regards
Isla

Quote from: Isla24Irisviel on February 13, 2017, 02:40:32 PM
Dear Shoko

I see

From what I've felt FT can do work on the face.But a nagging question has always been:Can they make me pretty as well?I guess I'm greedy anyway.But FFS and SRS is the last thing I want to do in my life(even if I'm 24 years old)

Oh,Isla is adapted from an anime character Irisviel.It also means an island in Scottish.Its the island of utopia..the island of dreams beyond all dreams

Regards
Isla

Well "pretty" is subjective of course, but it just depends what you want to do.  FT won't do too much if you don't need or want it.

I visited Facial Team in Marbella, in person last week for a consultation.
I had a cranial CT scan there, plus 2D and 3D photos taken, and a consultation with two of their surgeons.
Then I visited their 'recovery house' run by two trans women.
All this was at no cost to me, and they also paid for all of my taxi transfers to and from Malaga airport.
I was very impressed with them, and they came across as very professional and caring.
I'm just waiting for them to send over the results of the 'virtual FFS' simulation as the person who does that for them was not available when I visited.
I had an idea of what I wanted beforehand, but I deliberately did not mention this to them because I wanted to hear what they would recommend. Especially if they had recommended changing things or procedures that I did not consider were needed.
In the event, they suggested working on the exact things that I myself was most concerned with, namely brow bossing/recontouring plus orbital recontouring, tracheal shave, and hair transplants at the sides of my head where the male-pattern recession has occurred.
I came away feeling very impressed. I took my sceptical anti-FFS boyfriend along with me, and he came away with a totally new viewpoint, and is now 100% supportive if I decide to go ahead with everything.
I would totally recommend a personal visit to see them, as it can really help you with your own decision on FFS.

Quote from: V on February 27, 2017, 07:38:48 AM
I'm just waiting for them to send over the results of the 'virtual FFS' simulation as the person who does that for them was not available when I visited.

Interesting. I have an appointment with them next March 9th and the vffs person (I assume it would be Alexandra) won't be available either.

Hmm but for an Asian face?
I'm on the verge of cancelling not because they arent good,but rather I'm not sure if they will be able to make me that sort of pretty face,they can feminize you ,but could they make me pretty?Especially since I'm an Asian and many European faces don't have the issues Asian faces have.

I will lose a lot of money due to the currency conversion...

I am thinking of Regen in Korea

Shoko/other people,what do you think?

Quote from: Isla24Irisviel on February 27, 2017, 03:11:55 PM
Hmm but for an Asian face?
I'm on the verge of cancelling not because they arent good,but rather I'm not sure if they will be able to make me that sort of pretty face,they can feminize you ,but could they make me pretty?Especially since I'm an Asian and many European faces don't have the issues Asian faces have.

I will lose a lot of money due to the currency conversion...

I am thinking of Regen in Korea

Shoko/other people,what do you think?

Regen I have been to for consultation long ago.  Do they do FFS?  I guess it doesn't matter, as long as they understand what you want.

Quote from: Paula1 on May 02, 2016, 07:55:40 AM
Hi FrancisAnn,

That's awesome ...

You are one of the more fortunate girls.

When I look at my pre surgery fotos before 2004, I was very attractive and passable except for the forehead which has taken 12 years to get right, thanks to poor surgery. G'rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!! The day that I was sold a second nose job in 2004 was a very bad day for me.



One of the patient's mother in Spain last month looked at my fotos and thought in some shots that I looked like Julia Roberts. This was taken in 1999 when I was 54.



Hugs

Paula

I am having some work done with FT in a few months. I have heard that they (and other FFS surgeons) use titanium micro-screws in the forehead. My question is- has anyone had any trouble at airports because of these screws? I pass as a female but want to have my eye orbitals reshaped and very minor brow bossing removed- but I don't want to have to explain this everytime I have go through security at an airport.
It is entirely possible to shave the forehead (the part where it meets the nose) without using screws, right? I think that is called Type II forehead? Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.

M.

You can go through airports with eye glasses on you head so it's hard to imagine screws setting it off.

Quote from: Meena on February 28, 2017, 02:10:59 AM
I am having some work done with FT in a few months. I have heard that they (and other FFS surgeons) use titanium micro-screws in the forehead. My question is- has anyone had any trouble at airports because of these screws? I pass as a female but want to have my eye orbitals reshaped and very minor brow bossing removed- but I don't want to have to explain this everytime I have go through security at an airport.
It is entirely possible to shave the forehead (the part where it meets the nose) without using screws, right? I think that is called Type II forehead? Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.

M.

I thought about that too, and to be honest, it'd be an easy explanation. I plan to say I had cranial reconstruction after a car accident, if I'm ever asked.
It doesn't need you to reveal you've had FFS, in fact I'm sure they are used to people with screws in their bones due to accident reconstruction reasons, or hip replacement operations, etc...

Quote from: Meena on February 28, 2017, 02:10:59 AMMy question is- has anyone had any trouble at airports because of these screws?
M.

Don't worry about possible trouble at airports. The button and rivets of your jeans or the zipper of your jacket  have much more metal in them than the srews used to reconstruct the forehead and they don't cause any alarm to sound.

Quote from: Meena on February 28, 2017, 02:10:59 AM
I am having some work done with FT in a few months. I have heard that they (and other FFS surgeons) use titanium micro-screws in the forehead. My question is- has anyone had any trouble at airports because of these screws?

I have a long titanium bar inside my tibia, no problems getting through airports or into banks (except one particular branch).

Note: Titanium is a non magnetic metal, so it will not set off any conventional metal detectors. We use it in the Lab to build vessels that can be put on a magnetic stirrer - pretty fantastic to have a magnet working through a metallic object. It will show up in XRays or CT though of course.

Quote from: anjaq on March 01, 2017, 04:06:17 AM
Note: Titanium is a non magnetic metal, so it will not set off any conventional metal detectors. We use it in the Lab to build vessels that can be put on a magnetic stirrer - pretty fantastic to have a magnet working through a metallic object. It will show up in XRays or CT though of course.

I don't think that's correct. Its not related to being magnetic. Anyway, there's a paper on the subject.

Prosthetic metal implants and airport metal detectors
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4165247/

Quote from: Fresas con Nata on February 27, 2017, 12:39:08 PM
Interesting. I have an appointment with them next March 9th and the vffs person (I assume it would be Alexandra) won't be available either.

Yes, Alex did my 'virtual FFS', and they e-mailed it to me today. So I only had a 2 week wait. That's not too long to wait for such a service, especially as it's free.
The pics do look amazing, how such subtle changes can switch something inside your mind when you look at an image from reading either 'male' or 'androgynous' to 'female'.
I just gotta make my mind up about whether or not to go through with it...