Does it take longer than 2 years on hormones to develop a smaller waist and fattier hips or are those 2 changes pretty much done by then?

depends on your weight, genetics, body fat percentage, age and muscle....try waist training it really does work great

I don't know how much an effect HRT will have on waist and hips. But doing workouts turn burn of fat in your mind section and tighten the muscles helps. And squats to increase some your butt and hip area.
And maybe even a waist cincher or corset.
I think this helps

Quote from: ChristineRachel on April 05, 2017, 11:38:17 PM
I don't know how much an effect HRT will have on waist and hips. But doing workouts turn burn of fat in your mind section and tighten the muscles helps. And squats to increase some your butt and hip area.
And maybe even a waist cincher or corset.
I think this helps

i do all that everyday. Even workout in a corset. I'm still not happy.

I am sure it will widen up in time because of fat/muscle (but not much), but really I read somewhere that estrogen will never help a transgender woman pass her late teens in the hip development phase.  And I think hip/butt category is one of them, due to hips not being a very well-known surgery with a lot of complications.

We do get hyper judgemental of ourselves too.
I remember way back when I joined seeing an old post of yours, of your waist and upper hip area, looked pretty good to me.
We can judge ourselves far too hard sometimes. Do others remark your shape? If the do, knocked out :@

Quote from: ChristineRachel on April 05, 2017, 11:56:30 PM
We do get hyper judgemental of ourselves too.
I remember way back when I joined seeing an old post of yours, of your waist and upper hip area, looked pretty good to me.
We can judge ourselves far too hard sometimes. Do others remark your shape? If the do, knocked out :@

i mean guys tell me I have a sexy body, one woman actually saw my body and told her boyfriend "me and her have the same body shape" and she had a nice body, but I don't think mine looked like hers.

Well, the last time I seen yours, it looked great.
Post a full body shot maybe! :')

You're beautiful, you have that 2004-2007 Paris Hilton type beauty. A lot of women would want to look like you even if it means they are transgender. I rather look like you than an ugly cisgender woman, and there's plenty out there.

Beauty isn't everything. I wouldn't focus so much on that to be honest. After my eyebrow injury it dawn on me hardcore... money can buy anything, even beauty. Health is up there too.
 

with all the nicki minaj and kim kardashians of the world today we can have pretty unrealistic expectations of things like that and whats normal....what are your measurements? have you kept track if they have changed through out hormones

Depends on where your fat cells are in their life cycle when you started hormones. They don't alter fat cells that exist, but do influence where they accumulate on the new cycle. I believe that they have a 5 year life cycle.

Quote from: Annabolton on April 06, 2017, 02:25:26 AM
with all the nicki minaj and kim kardashians of the world today we can have pretty unrealistic expectations of things like that and whats normal....what are your measurements? have you kept track if they have changed through out hormones

never measured after hrt, but before they were 32"27"34.

Been on hormones 14 yrs, slight hourglass shape. Only noticed lately.

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 06, 2017, 08:46:14 AM
never measured after hrt, but before they were 32"27"34.

Girl, I would die for those measurements lol.  Stop being so hard on yourself.  You are a beautiful young woman.  Something that will elude me, but I am going to move forward anyway.  You are an inspiration that I can look feminine (sorta) someday.

We are always our own worst critics, especially with today's mass media and the self-narcissism of social media.  Smile, you look wonderful.

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 05, 2017, 11:39:44 PM
i do all that everyday. Even workout in a corset. I'm still not happy.

I started doing glute bridges with a dumbbell at my hips instead of squats. I have increased my hip measurement by more than an inch in the last few months. They work the butt much more than squats ever did.
They haven't made me wider from the front, but have made a huge difference in the side view. This makes me waist look better from the side too by comparison.

But I really have to agree with Christine, I saw some of the full body pics you posted some time back. A figure like yours is my goal.

Quote from: rochyrob on April 06, 2017, 02:07:12 PM
I started doing glute bridges with a dumbbell at my hips instead of squats. I have increased my hip measurement by more than an inch in the last few months. They work the butt much more than squats ever did.
They haven't made me wider from the front, but have made a huge difference in the side view. This makes me waist look better from the side too by comparison.

But I really have to agree with Christine, I saw some of the full body pics you posted some time back. A figure like yours is my goal.

my waist and hips look good from the side, but I'm not happy with the front view.

A .79 hip to waist ratio prior to HRT is better than many cis girls, especially ones as slender as yourself.  Measure yourself again now and see how you're doing.  I bet you are far better off than you think.  Women with a figure like Raquel Welch are anomalies, not the rule.

I had a visible waist curve and some noticeable padding in the hips and bottom within 3-4 months, but fat redistribution is generally very slow; I didn't *stop* seeing changes until about five years in. I think it does help to have some body fat to start with, too.

I, too, yearn for that 0.65 waist:hip ratio, but after puberty hormone therapy alone will never get us there.  Padding is something I have now mastered, and it's the best I can do to get the look I want.  Sometimes we have to settle.

I beg to differ; again, I think having the extra weight helps when it comes to gaining curves (I've got a fairly hourglass figure, but it's a big hourglass!). I got curious, and my current measurements are 38DDD-28-42. That's about a 0.64 waist-to-hip ratio; I can live with that, even if I'm apparently a little bottom-heavy. And yes, it's from HRT alone, or at least from that and eating enough dessert.

But I've been on HRT over 7 years now.