Quote from: Elis on June 30, 2017, 03:00:10 PM


I think the main difference between the two is transgender people who medically transition feel great relief at altering their  bodies but are still able to physically function while people who with biid can't physically function after having limbs or fingers cut off or can do so but only when aided and with much physical discomfort. Which hinders not helps their lives.

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for putting it so clearly to me!

This is kind of a weird topic to try to explain......And I know my say here isn't going to make much sense, but I'mma try anyway.

I personally agree that wanting to remove a healthy limb that is useful kind of ridiculous but
I don't necessarily agree that it's much different from being trans...
But I also think that wanting to remove a healthy limb sounds like more of a mental condition...But that also makes me feel like I am saying trans is a mental condition, which in a sense it is.....

Our mind and self don't match our bodies, much like someone who wants a limb removed feels the same way.
Much like some people don't agree with our choices and our mis-matched minds and bodies, it's understandable that some of us would not agree with their choices and mis-matched bodies.

I am very sorry that you went through so much, and I can understand your frustration, however it's unfortunately something that exists, and if that's how they feel they can't help that, much like us.

I know it seems like really weird to remove a healthy arm or leg but I'm putting myself in that person's place. I can't know what that person is feeling. Maybe the arm or leg is causing them mental pain. I also wouldn't be so fast to call them crazy. LOTS of people think transgender people are crazy. Just because we would never want to lose a limb we shouldn't condemn these people. I guarantee almost all CIS men would think losing his dick is the worst thing imaginable and most CIS women would consider losing their breasts the most horrible thing ever. What if trans people weren't allowed to do those things cause people thought they were crazy and the procedures were banned? I don't fully understand the people who want to lose limbs but as a trans person I wouldn't condemn or judge someone who wants to remove a body part that is causing them mental anguish.  Thats just my feeling and opinions about it.

Julia

The ultimate generalisation is to look at it in this way, its one person's view of someone else and what they want for themselves, for whatever reason, and then making a judgement, thats not a problem until they decide to tell people what they think of others life choices, whether its genetic or conscious, if you feel its right for you, then it is.

For the record i have all my limbs, they're quite useful

This morning while I was waking up,  a though about this thread crossed my mind. Completely forgot in this discussion is the FTM members of the site who wish to have something added to their body that they were born without. That indicates our desire for surgery is not based on a desire for amputation.

Quote from: Dena on July 04, 2017, 10:17:20 AM
This morning while I was waking up,  a though about this thread crossed my mind. Completely forgot in this discussion is the FTM members of the site who wish to have something added to their body that they were born without. That indicates our desire for surgery is not based on a desire for amputation.

Let us also not forget all the MtFs that get breast augmentation, as they desired to have larger breasts than what hormones could provide. To me, it really goes to show that being transgender has more to do with correcting one's body, than chopping it up. What saddens me, is the fixation so many people seem to have on the genitalia others have, even when there is no romantic (or sexual) desire.

Quote from: Dena on July 04, 2017, 10:17:20 AM
This morning while I was waking up,  a though about this thread crossed my mind. Completely forgot in this discussion is the FTM members of the site who wish to have something added to their body that they were born without. That indicates our desire for surgery is not based on a desire for amputation.

Quote from: Lady Sarah on July 04, 2017, 09:31:29 PM
Let us also not forget all the MtFs that get breast augmentation, as they desired to have larger breasts than what hormones could provide. To me, it really goes to show that being transgender has more to do with correcting one's body, than chopping it up. What saddens me, is the fixation so many people seem to have on the genitalia others have, even when there is no romantic (or sexual) desire.

I feel this! One of the cosplayers I grew up admiring came out and start transitioning (FTM) and he stated he wasn't going to have bottom surgery specifically because he couldn't stand having something attached to his body that wasn't originally there, and since you do experience anatomy growth, it was enough for his dysphoria, so the only thing he had done was the top surgery. I know that's kind of the opposite, but it makes sense to me in a way and seems related to the above comments.

Dysphoria or not, people all have different ways of coping, different levels of what they're comfortable with and what they will and won't have removed or added to their bodies.