I didn't see a link in other posts....

Trump announces ban on transgender people in U.S. military

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/07/26/trump-announces-ban-on-transgender-people-in-u-s-military/

Washington Post/by Abby Phillip, Thomas Gibbons Neff, Dan LaMotte  07/26/2017

How sad for the trans military members, and a setback to our community.  We may not be welcome, but we won't let that drag us down.  Keep fighting!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-us-will-not-accept-or-allow-transgender-people-to-serve-in-us-military-in-any-capacity-twitter/ar-AAoRF2y

Trump bloviating on twitter again.  Hopefully we'll get some clarification from the Pentagon soon.  I expect this is catching DoD totally off guard and surprised.


Conform and be dull. —James Frank Dobie, The Voice of the Coyote

I cannot express how this news makes me feel. Let it be known I very much disagree with this action.

Laurie

So does he expect all trans individuals in the army to just resign now? Another one of his 'ideas' not thought through.

Clearly, Trump is the biggest disaster to ever hit the U.S..  It was obvious he wasn't fit for the position, long before the election.

Each and every twit of mr Trump so far was reversed next day and never came to a policy. The guy is a president's placeholder not a president with any defined policy (other than constant flip flopping). I believe the Army being conservative institution wouldn't reverse its policies that easy and betray its own people


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One thing that concerns me is how will this affect existing DoD policy in dealing with trans veterans.  Will the DoD remain open minded in revising DD214s?  Will the VA change policies in regard to trans care?  Will the VA stop paying for HRT?  Will they still provide trans related mental health care?   

To date all of my documentation changes have been completed except for changing the name on my DD214, which has been pending at BCNR for almost a year.  (VA records and DEERS are updated)  Hopefully it'll be approved before this trainwreck jumps the tracks, crashes and burns.  If they change policy and deny my request, I guess I'll just count myself as lucky to have a VA ID card. 

A shame really that this represents such a shift backwards.  Whilst not in the US forces, I saw "sharp end" combat in 3 war zones and performed well.  I'll admit I wasn't undergoing HRT, but I identified as transgender throughout my 22 year service and not once did it cause problems on the professional front.  The POTUS is being short sighted and just more than a bit ignorant, I truly believe our comrades-in-arms would be far more enlightened.

I knew it would happen... it's exactly why I didn't continue my re enlistment paperwork. I refuse to put myself back to a position where my healthcare and career can be destroyed at the drop of a hat from his administration.

It's not about military readiness, cost or lethality.
It's pure, straight up, bigotry.

So as some of you may know, I'm out at work with most of my coworkers, and my supervision.  This morning I was blind sighted by this news.  I had started a conversation with my supervisor about how I wanted to apply for a First Sgt Shadow program with a new first sgt that was added to the list.  This one was female, and so I felt more comfortable shadowing her.  When I said all this, my supervisor asks me if I had heard anything in the news yet.  I went to MSN.com immediately and this news was the front page slap in the face. Now I'm sitting here with my anxiety sky rocketing.  I'm afraid I'm going to lose my job – I knew this was a risk when I decided to come out, but I didn't want to be afraid anymore, and so I went through with it.
I haven't even started my transition yet.  Next month I was supposed to go to Lackland to meet with the medical team to discuss my transition plan.  I sent an email to my case manager to ask "What does this mean for me?" a little while ago, and so I'm waiting for that.  I don't know what to think.  At least my supervisor said that if I need to talk to someone at any time today that she's ok with it.
Feeling betrayed, confused, and afraid.
Ashley.

Unless this new ban excludes everyone who currently serves (and allows their future reenlistments as well) - whether already came out or not - that would be a betrayal. Inviting people to come out, then changing the policy and throwing them away. Unacceptable.

I hope that some LGBT group will challenge this, in the courts, if Trump tries to push it.

Quote from: KageNiko on July 26, 2017, 12:12:31 PM
So as some of you may know, I'm out at work with most of my coworkers, and my supervision.  This morning I was blind sighted by this news.  I had started a conversation with my supervisor about how I wanted to apply for a First Sgt Shadow program with a new first sgt that was added to the list.  This one was female, and so I felt more comfortable shadowing her.  When I said all this, my supervisor asks me if I had heard anything in the news yet.  I went to MSN.com immediately and this news was the front page slap in the face. Now I'm sitting here with my anxiety sky rocketing.  I'm afraid I'm going to lose my job – I knew this was a risk when I decided to come out, but I didn't want to be afraid anymore, and so I went through with it.
I haven't even started my transition yet.  Next month I was supposed to go to Lackland to meet with the medical team to discuss my transition plan.  I sent an email to my case manager to ask "What does this mean for me?" a little while ago, and so I'm waiting for that.  I don't know what to think.  At least my supervisor said that if I need to talk to someone at any time today that she's ok with it.
Feeling betrayed, confused, and afraid.
Ashley.

Big hug! Hang in there, honey. Im as shocked as you are. But COVFEFE hasn't become the law of the land, so let's just hope for the best. 

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Kelly1ca on July 26, 2017, 12:26:35 PM
I hope that some LGBT group will challenge this, in the courts, if Trump tries to push it.

It will happen, yet the POTUS is the commander-in-chief, so I am afraid any challenge would die.

The only way is to replace enough senators and congressmen to shift both into D in the next midterm election and hope for a thorough legislative military reform saying that 'it's a right to serve in the military to anyone' (capable of passing their exam and fitness test).

Is there an online petition somewhere to mr. Trump to reconsider? If we get enough signatures, he might.


Edit: yes, there is! HTTPS://www.change.org/p/allow-transgender-people-into-the-u-s-military/   Sign yourself, share with your friends. I did

All I can do is be thankful that I'm a member of the Canadian Military. I just hope that this doesn't effect the lives and careers of my America brothers and sisters.

I just saw this flash on the news!!!! You know this is sick and really not right. We got rid of "don't ask, don't tell". This is really crazy to just say one class of persons can't serve their country because of what generals say!!! I can't believe I voted for Trump!!!!! I liked what he was going for but, this is a bad taste in my mouth. I should have did third party vote, oh well. Obviously, Trump hasn't learned from recent past of what happens when you start keeping out certain people in the military.

How do you know he won't twit tomorrow - 'don't ask don't tell' is back?


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