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I despair over the nature of the planet.  But hell, nothing is going to happen.  So I'll be dead before EVERYTHING is gone, it'll just mean that Brazil gets more expensive and Greenland gets more tourists.

Posted on: February 26, 2008, 12:53:12 PM

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Quote from: ell on February 26, 2008, 12:52:07 PM
unless you have an army. then you can just go and steal someone else's, along with their oil.

Land and spoils won by war are not stolen, they're won over a lot of blood.

And that's really just the way the world turns.

Quote from: Annwyn on February 26, 2008, 12:04:13 PM
Pollution?

LOL.

If any of us really cared about that we wouldn't drive cars, use computers, or realyl have any part of the modern technological world.

I care enough to pick up some trash now and then and toss it in a nearby disposal unit, which will prolly get torn open by alley cats anyways.

:-)

We just need to keep our eyes open for a new planet is all.

Since pollution is a form of entropy, we can't avoid it.  But we can reduce it in a variety of ways.

For example, we have a couple of vehicles we use on a regular basis.  But I ride the bus to and from work and other places because I want to lessen the amount of pollution I generate AND because it is cheaper.

I have several computers in the house, but in some instances they have been upgraded, prolonging their life and reducing pollution at both the disposal end and the production end.

Being concerned about pollution and the environment doesn't mean that you have to avoid technology.

Quote from: Rowan_Danielle on February 26, 2008, 01:41:35 PM


Since pollution is a form of entropy, we can't avoid it.  But we can reduce it in a variety of ways.

Reckon our atmosphere makes us a closed system then?

Quote from: Pica Pica on February 26, 2008, 08:56:20 PM

Quote from: Rowan_Danielle on February 26, 2008, 01:41:35 PM


Since pollution is a form of entropy, we can't avoid it.  But we can reduce it in a variety of ways.

Reckon our atmosphere makes us a closed system then?

Closed enough that we need to worry about it.

Now we HAVE made progress.  In the Los Angeles area, in the 1960's, smog was a major problem.  My wife grew up in the area and remembers days that she couldn't see the mountains to the north of the San Gabriel Valley.  Then smog controls came into play and the problem lessened, despite a huge increase in vehicle traffic.

The problem of smog hasn't gone away though.  But it is a great improvement from the 1960's.

Quote from: Pica Pica on February 26, 2008, 08:56:20 PM

Quote from: Rowan_Danielle on February 26, 2008, 01:41:35 PM


Since pollution is a form of entropy, we can't avoid it.  But we can reduce it in a variety of ways.

Reckon our atmosphere makes us a closed system then?

It's not a closed system at all. It's a self renewing system - granted, entropy is ever-increasing, but new energy keeps being added by sunlight, and this is then used to convert pollution and waste back into usable resources - CO2 into O2 and Chlorophyl, waste material gets recycled by scavengers, etc.

The problem is that we are adding more than Earth's systems can process. The only entropy we should be concerned about is the sun burning out - and us.

Sun burning out, LOLZERS.

We'll just send a couple nukes to good ole jupiter:-)