Quote from: justpat on September 05, 2014, 08:10:58 AM
  Hugh, most all of these fit me till I was about 40 then some things changed like little body hair before then after 40 it started growing . A funny thing is my SO who I met in 1973 told me she thought I was pretty when we met.

I had a kind of second puberty around the time I hit 30. My first puberty actually started quite early, I can remember first noticing pubic hairs appearing around the time I started a new school, aged 11. However it was basically a female puberty minus the menstruation, and I remained very androgynous-looking throughout my teens and 20s. I only had vellus body hair apart from my armpits and pubes, and I had pretty much everything else on that list too apart from gynecomastica (although looking at old photos, I might have had that too, and just not been conscious of it).

Then, around my 30th birthday, my hormones and my metabolism seemed to change somehow. I started to put on weight, body hair started appearing in new areas, and I think my facial features started masculinising around that time too. This all happened at around the time I married and became a father, and I wonder whether the two were linked. Perhaps it was a reaction to pheromones - my body sensing the close proximity of a fertile female, and making an extra effort to be male and to be fertile so as to impregnate her?

Quote from: Rose City Rose on September 03, 2014, 12:34:53 PM
So I remembered recently that there had been a number of studies on digit length as a predictor of certain traits, particularly the 2D:4D ratio (the ratio between your index and ring fingers).

Natal women tend to have index and ring fingers of roughly (not exactly) the same length or with a longer index finger (though obviously there are plenty of cis women with shorter index fingers).

What I found is that even though my ring finger was very slightly longer than the index, the difference was not that great; in fact they were of near equal length.  This together with the positive way I responded emotionally to female hormones, my grade 1 hypospadias, my small hands,  my slow puberty, and my high voice (it never changed completely), I think I may be ever so slightly intersex.

How about everyone else?  is your index finger a good bit longer, a good bit shorter, or about the same length as your ring finger?  And if you have the more feminized trait of an equal ratio, do you have any other indicators (high voice, feminine shape, hypospadias, etc) of a slight intersex condition?

I've been doing some work around this area recently and came upon this thread.

My index finger is longer than my ring finger. As the 4th sibling I had suspected it was possible that a higher than 'normal' exposure to oestrogen occurred in the womb, the digit ratio effect may well support this.

It's important to state clearly for anyone anxious, that a 'MtF transgender digit ratio' does not in and of itself indicate that you can or cannot be truly trans. There are myriad reasons why people transition and know they are right to do so.

But I'm lying if I say that, for me, it's not rather reassuring. Not just nurture then ... ?

https://www.themaven.net/transgenderuniverse/articles/transgender-science-is-it-all-in-the-digits-TO3HutXlMUuTnTPUHrZGQQ?full=1