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FtmBoyyy

I've been on testosterone for a year and a half... I feel as time has gone on, ive been acting a way that only recently I noticed. Every small thing gets me angry. My immediate response for every thing has been anger. People have brought it to my attention and its scaring me honestly. I don't recognize myself. I don't know if its the testosterone. I don't know what to do. I feel as tho I keep pushing everyone away. But one thing leads to another and I can not keep my mouth shut. I also have been struggling with my shots. I have not taken my shot in 3 weeks. Never have I ever been this behind. The most is a day or two. Does anyone have any advice please?

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Dena

Welcome to Susan's Place. For a small number of people testosterone can result in them being angry more often. It's not normally noticed in CIS males because they have time to learn how to cop with it however in a FTM it comes on rather suddenly and when they are much older. My advice is for you to consider two things. The first is to discuss this with your endo. If you are in the upper range on testosterone, lowering it might help. The second thing is to discuss this with a therapist. There are anger management techniques that can be used to control your anger when it happens. In addition a therapist could help get organized so you are more careful dealing with your personal needs like your injections.

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Jessica_Rose

I am not sure how much help this will be, but you describe the first 40 or so years of my life before I started HRT. Most of the time I was a calm, quiet guy. However I could get frustrated easily, which quickly led to anger and sometimes rage. I almost got fired on several occasions when I released my anger in the workplace. I was even worse at home. This seemed to get worse as the years went by.

The only suggestion I have is to try to avoid situations which may get the anger ball rolling. If the situation catches you off guard try to walk away before reaching the boiling point. I found that being alone in a quiet place would allow my anger to slowly subside, but sometimes it took hours. Find any excuse you can to leave the area before steam starts coming out of your ears, saying 'I need to take a piss' is better than getting into an argument.

Dena beat me to it, but I agree that your testosterone level may be too high. I have found that as my testosterone levels decrease I have become a much more tolerant person and that my anger has faded to a distant unpleasant memory.
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Elis

T may make you more quick to anger but it won't make you become an angry violent person. It also might make it harder for you to express emotion. Not that it'll stop you feeling; from how I've heard it described you can feel the need to cry but the tears just won't come as they would pre T.
Being on the right hormones for your body should make you feel calmer and more relaxed. It seems likely there's something in your life causing it.
Although expensive T gel in my opinion is the best form of adminestering T. It works the same as the injectable kind but you get a consistent daily dose so more natural and no mood swings.
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Kylo

Having hormone withdrawal will definitely affect your moods.
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Gertrude

Quote from: Elis on November 24, 2017, 11:29:16 PM
T may make you more quick to anger but it won't make you become an angry violent person. It also might make it harder for you to express emotion. Not that it'll stop you feeling; from how I've heard it described you can feel the need to cry but the tears just won't come as they would pre T.
Being on the right hormones for your body should make you feel calmer and more relaxed. It seems likely there's something in your life causing it.
Although expensive T gel in my opinion is the best form of adminestering T. It works the same as the injectable kind but you get a consistent daily dose so more natural and no mood swings.
Depends on how much. Ever hear of roid rage? I was on t for a bit and it was like being 15 again. Definitely edgier. My levels were over 900. With roid rage it would higher than that.


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Deborah

Before HRT my testosterone was pretty high, over 800 in my 50s so maybe even higher when I was younger.  Whenever something happened that made me angry I would get a physical adrenaline rush and feel an aggressive rage.  I would "see red".  For the most part though I learned to control it and just waited for it to pass.  Occasionally though it would get out of control and twice I actually hurt myself, once breaking my hand against a door and another time laying a tendon bare on my knuckle while punching ceramic cookie jars.  I also destroyed lots of stuff over the years.  My most memorable destruction was ripping a door off its hinges and throwing it down a hallway.  Fortunately for me I never directed it at another person.  So it's just something you have to learn to live with when T levels are elevated.

Since lowering T none of that happens anymore so I'm pretty sure it wasn't simply an innate part of my personality.


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Great thread, we should probably stop for a snack. I brought some olives.

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Only if they're black olives.  And some cheese to go along with them would be yummmm.


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November Fox

Quote from: Deborah on November 26, 2017, 11:48:40 AM
I also destroyed lots of stuff over the years.  My most memorable destruction was ripping a door off its hinges and throwing it down a hallway. 

I did this too. People were pretty scared, I´m sure they never encountered anybody like me.
Never injured anyone either, except one time when somebody really had it coming (they tried to corner me).

My experience is this. It´s not the testosterone. But testosterone can have an influence on it.

Before testosterone I used to be extremely unhappy and this used to show itself through frustration. I couldn´t figure out exactly what was going on, and that made me even angrier - and I also find that estrogen actually made me more violent because I did not like the type of emotions it gave me.

Testosterone has helped me calm down, but it has also lowered my tolerance for any, any at all, bullsh* in my life. If I feel unhappy about something and I don´t SAY it, I will get cranky. If I am forcing myself to do something without listening to myself first, I will get cranky. If something is bothering me and I don´t stop in my tracks to figure out what´s wrong, again, anger.

Try to pinpoint if you are unhappy with aspects of your life and whether it´s related.

For me, not taking my hormones on a regular schedule can also mess with my emotions. Be careful.
If there´s a pattern to your anger (angrier in week 3 after the shot, for example), then consider moving to a different pattern of injections - but preferably after you check what your levels are.

However if you´re way behind on your shots now, I don´t know if you will still get an accurate reading. If you want to know if your levels affect your mood, best  thing would be to get back on it for a while and then have your levels tested.
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Kylo

My experience on T has been great. Before HRT I was getting steadily more stressed out - not because of the trans stuff but because of my living situation, which I'm sure would drive a saint to drink - and at that point I was punching doors and trashing rooms when people would push it too far.

Since T I feel like a different person on that front. I will take less crap, but I won't fly into a barely-controllable rage. There's a new wall there between my emotional response and whatever stimuli there is.

I would suggest it might also be something in your current situation. Do you get enough sleep, do you hang around with irritating people, etc. and take steps to fix these if you do. Having hormone withdrawal will probably increase anxiety and irritability. If you're in a bad situation, maybe it's no surprise you're feeling angry. I know I'm pretty damn angry living in a flat I can't get out of with landlords who are creepers but whom if I ever tried to get them pulled up for that would evict me, and have already threatened to should I have anything to say about their behavior. To say I want to rearrange their faces would be an understatement. I realize I'm stuck here though till I find something better and I know I'll fly off the handle if I have to see them again so I've decided they will have to talk to my flatmate if they have any business with us. Take the onus off me and that situation so I don't get angry. Avoid the people that trigger it.

One thing I will say is I went off any sort of hormones for 8 months once which was necessary before starting HRT, and my levels tanking to almost nothing made me feel actually paranoid (and angry) about a whole bunch of things. At the time I wasn't aware of this but I can say with certainty now I was going off the deep end and it was because of the lack of hormones. It immediately resolved when I got back on some form of hormones, and it was a physical and mental relief.

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