Which is worse for you guys? Social or body dysphoria? Or equal?

Wanna share experiences/feelings on those?

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For me I think it's actually social dysphoria...
Well, not a day goes by that I do not wish my chest was gone & without looking in the mirror rather dissatisfied...

But to me the absolute worst is the social part!!! I will NOT pretend to be a female, ever, anywhere. I will NOT use my deadname or say it aloud. I will NOT interact with people if they can't see me as a guy - which they can't - which means I don't interact with people.

I just CAN'T do it. I feel like - this is the one last thing no one can make me do. I wasn't allowed to get on T. Okay. I haven't been able to change my legal name. ->-bleeped-<- you! But you will NOT make me pretend to be a woman or interact as one. You don't see me as a guy? Then go f*** yourselves! But I WILL NOT pretend I'm a female. No one can make me do that. If that means I won't see anyone! Fine! But no one can force me to pretend I'm a w*man.

(Though of course that intertwines with the body part - I especially don't feel like interacting because of this chest etc.................... So, it's... equal I guess... but the social part is much more obvious. I mean extreme. I can't deal with deadnaming etc. Rather not see the people at all who deadname me.)

How about you, guys?

Are you like that? Or are you coping with the social part (functioning in society, in your job/studies) - but have extreme body dysphoria? How is it for you?

For me I think the social and body dysphoria go hand in hand for me. I mean certain things will trigger my social like my facial hair showing. Also when I am not feeling very cute or like my hair is going all over. So I mean it gets triggered by various things. The body dysphoria is getting better with my transition. I also can't stand my deadname being called at me. I will not interact with people that say "it" when referring to me. I will not pretend like you.

Body Dysphoria.

I have always just been accepted as one of the guys and don't have any real issues that way. However I wont have photos taken of myself or look at myself in mirrors. It makes me really upset how I look.

A sort of social dysphoria in a sense for me, but a lot of that may just be my natural anxiety. I never felt right with my role in the world, and I have years spent never leaving my house to prove it.

My body dysphoria has become more pronounced though of late. I never volunteered for pictures ever, but occasionally one would crop up I couldn't get out of it. Seeing those before made me embarrassed, but seeing them not just makes me want to cry outright in a "how could that possibly be me" sort of way--something that absolutely does not extend to me taking pictures of myself in feminine attire.

Social for sure. I have almost no problems with my body. I can look into the mirror when Im alone, chest n' all, and still think "whos that handsome fella!!" but the second I go outside and others can see me Im like oh god I need to be 1873128x manlier right now or Im gonna explode

I think marginally body dysphoria was worse for me. It was just this constant feeling of being self conscious; wholly aware my body was wrong which left me unable to concentrate or do anything. I was used to not liking my name as I've never liked it and was used to me not being comfortable around people due to my social anxiety and me being a total introvert. So once I realised I was trans it only felt slightly worse.

Body dysphoria is the absolute worst for me.
At this point I barely even have social dysphoria anymore because not only do I pass as cis I'm also legally male, had my name changed etc.
And when I feel dysphoric, paranoid or inadequate in social situations it's usually caused by me getting aware of this joke of a body so I count this as body dysphoria too.

I'm not sure.

Body dysphoria isn't as bad as it used to be, but it's still there since I've not had every potential surgery yet, and it might be there permanently, I don't know.

Social dysphoria improved a bunch. I'm more sociable than I used to be, although I still have that habit of keeping people at a distance and not letting them latch onto me.

They feed off each other, and I suppose the further through transition I get the less and less they can do that. Here's hoping anyway.

My social dysphoria came first, which subsequently informed my body dysphoria.  In other words, I realized that my embodiment was preventing me from being gendered correctly.  And that, in turn, informed my choices for how to proceed with transition -- voice and zapping and facial surgery were at the top of my list -- and after, namely by practicing non-disclosure.

Social, the body dysphoria was so subtle I didn't even know I had it until I started remembering memories about when my body first began changing. On a general basis I can ignore the body stuff, I feel fairly apathetic to it. My lack of major body dysphoria was one of the things that made me wonder if I was trans to begin with, and I had to realize that yes it is there, just not how I expected. I guess I'm fortunate I'm more "meh" about body stuff since I don't have to deal with severe distress.

Getting my name legally changed further proved I had especially difficulties with the social part. After that name change I feel I legally exist so that in itself got rid of almost 75% of my dysphoria. The constant nasty feeling I now realize I had in the background all the time, is just gone. I no longer feel like my skin is crawling backwards on me and I wanna strangle everyone who uses that sickening deadname that isn't me. With that, I'm now able to introduce myself (legally) as a guy. So even if I'm pre-T and don't really look like it, I at least have some sort of legal status/recognition as a guy because people must see it's a guy name. And they can't claim I'm a female/have a female name actually. I feel this GIANT PEACE for the first time in my life!!!

Deadname & chest were the worst ones for me. At least now I have a working binder again so feel hugely better about that too!!!

My body does bother me - and always has. I hate this chest so much!!! And I hate this female/eunuch body shape I have. So much. But in my mind I somehow picture myself as looking like a guy nevertheless, so unless I see myself in the mirror and have to face the facts, I can block all that out of my mind at least to some extent. When I'm home by myself I tend to 'forget' I look the way I look. With my spouse I'm fine because we've known each other for so long. After meeting some new people, I've noticed that even with other people it's sort of fine as long as they treat me as a guy. If just the outside world is able to see/treat me as a guy, I'm very happy & content.

I can't cope with the fact that generally people must see I have a female body, though. I also don't like having a female body even if people do treat me with respect. And seeing myself in a mirror always bothers me and reminds me. But as long as I'm just gendered correctly, I don't experience much dysphoria - so for me the social aspect is DEFINITELY much worse!!! Chest I can't cope with - but now that it's looking alright (with that binder), I feel relieved.

Also losing weight, working out, that binder plus knowing I will get on T and lose this eunuch existence eventually just makes me feel generally good!!! 

Before transition, I was very dysphoric about both - male -like behavior being expected from me felt alien and at the same time my growing body also felt so outlandish and unifamiliar. With that said, I never masculinized fully, never grew a beard, my voice never lowered, I never had much hair and preserved a baby face, so I can say my body dysphoria was mostly fixed on my lack of curves, rectangular shape, hands and genitals. After social transition and two months on HRT, I started passing all the time so my social dysphoria vanished and my body dysphoria actually increased as I hated being a girl with an extra.

While my body is wrong for me it has to be socal, i want to act like i feel... female but i always fear it comes across as plain camp with my body ( theres nothing wrong with that but its just not me) i want above all else to be seen as female, to interact with others as such.... ive had tines ive had to bite my lip when i want to make comments to other girls about their nails or such but ive decided to keep quite and not join in with the convo going on.

It makes the whole passing auguement more important for me, not from the view of getting rid of all male appearance or no transphobic coments or looks but just so when i do interact with people it feels nateral and the other person isnt just being nice etc

Definitely body dysphoria. I have no problems with social interactions as long as its with people who didn't know me before transition. But I have problems with my body.  Primarily with what shouldn't be there and how it prevents me from having sex the way I want to. I can't wait to be rid of it!

Social hands down. Being told I'm male always felt wrong and now it makes me cringe. After my niece and nephew's birthdays next month I don't think I'm seeing family until maybe Thanksgiving. They won't see me as anything but male and honestly, I don't want to be around that.

I'm learning transitioning alone isn't enough. Setting boundaries is so important

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Social,at this point. It's not that I don't have body dysphoria. My chest and voice always felt wrong. But I think I could still live a reasonably healthy and stable life without top surgery in an alternate universe where having a large chest didn't automatically make people gender me as female. 

Before my voice dropped, I would have said my body dysphoria was worse. My voice was a huge source of dysphoria for me and really hampered my ability to function in society.

Quote from: Julia1996 on March 18, 2018, 07:44:28 AMDefinitely body dysphoria. I have no problems with social interactions as long as its with people who didn't know me before transition. But I have problems with my body.  Primarily with what shouldn't be there and how it prevents me from having sex the way I want to. I can't wait to be rid of it!

That sounds like social dysphoria to me... well managed because you don't get misgendered by other people.

For me it's body dysphoria by far. Before I started HRT I would avoid my reflection like it was the plague. Now that I've been on HRT for two months I can't help but glance in the mirror every once in a while but it still bums me out so so much. So much. I've been wondering if getting my eyebrows threaded(?) or something could help. I'm going to a trans group tomorrow to ask for advice. Anyone have any tips? I'm not ready to use make-up yet.

Some of my favorite dreams are when I look in the mirror and see a female face look back.

Edit: I also can't stand having male genitals but I try to shut down any thoughts about it because it's too infuriating and I'm super impatient for SRS. It's easier to avoid those thoughts than my reflection though.

I guess social is worse.  If I had to choose between looking male but still being misgendered 100% of the time and looking female but being correctly gendered as male, I'd opt for the second.  That said, the body dysphoria is pretty horrific.  I can sort of deal with not having the correct anatomy below the belt, but my chest just gives me the horrors.  An unwary look in the mirror can really tank my mood.   

Quote from: Allison S on March 18, 2018, 07:47:00 AM
After my niece and nephew's birthdays next month I don't think I'm seeing family until maybe Thanksgiving. They won't see me as anything but male and honestly, I don't want to be around that.

I'm learning transitioning alone isn't enough. Setting boundaries is so important

Totally understand & agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been avoiding my family for aforementioned reason forever. They can't respect me - fine, I don't wanna be around that.