Quote from: Julia1996 on March 21, 2018, 02:04:11 AM
Are you sure its not the CASSI effect? I can easily picture you pulling jokes like that on unsuspecting people. Lol.😂😂

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I've never been happy with my face, at least not until a few months ago when I started really seeing a woman hiding in there. Now it really doesn't bother me much (usually). I wouldn't mind getting my nose and protruding forehead reduced - I really don't like my sunken eyes. Of course, I can't hardly bear to look at myself on the days I have to grow out the hair for electrolysis.

Quote from: Chelsea1807 on March 20, 2018, 10:17:45 PM
Wow thats awsome.   I'm still at 122hz 

Chelsea

Been meaning to check that app out for a while too on my other phone, been a while since I looked at my voice pitch

T works for you, wow!


As for my face and I, it's a pretty good one.  I don't hate it any more, though there was a time...
Despite getting along pretty well I still told a doc "Take a grinder to this, that, and along here, then tug on this part and for the love of god don't screw this up!"

if it were socially acceptable to wear a paper bag over my head at all times, I would.  I have been fighting the temptation to take a knife to my face for years.

Quote from: Kylo on March 22, 2018, 07:08:03 AM
Been meaning to check that app out for a while too on my other phone, been a while since I looked at my voice pitch

Wow I couldn't even get to that even if I tried! And I went through all male puberty plus some lol

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I've always focused on my face because at 6'4" 220 lbs there is no other way I fit in. I like my face in makeup. Always have. Even now at 66, I still see my face as gorgeous. With my finally long hair which I have scheduled to be cut next week. Maybe I'm twisted but I certainly do not see an ugly person looking back at me.  I love new clothes, which can be expensive. There is one shop on the internet where I wish I could get locked inside and try everything on. I can now fit a size 16 a few years ago it was 24.  Part of the reason I appreciate my face these days is because until I was about 25 I had raging zits. While the pock marks still show the makeup does a pretty good job of covering them up. No my face is not the source of my dysphoria. My concern is a little south.

I felt the same way before HRT. It's just the way it is. HRT will definitely change your face - I have met no transmen who were on HRT  and had no change.

As a "girl" I had inherited my fathers' features and not happy about it, but those exact features are really working now. However, you know - your relationship with your face isn't just gender, it's age too among other things - emotions are eventually written on your skin.

Transitioning has accentuated some of the lines, especially forehead lines ("deep thought" lines), but I am cool with it - and although being pretty is frequently on a woman's mind (judging from my own experience), the importance of it kind of fades.

Quote from: Allison S on March 24, 2018, 05:08:19 PM
Wow I couldn't even get to that even if I tried! And I went through all male puberty plus some lol

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I hope I'm using the app correctly. I read out the passage of writing it gave to the end, anyway.

Quote from: Kylo on March 24, 2018, 09:55:41 PM
I hope I'm using the app correctly. I read out the passage of writing it gave to the end, anyway.

So, in reading the passage did Dorian Grey get the girl?  Kidding.

It's a pretty good app.  I think Laurie turned me on to it and I even showed it to my speech therapist and she was impressed with both the recording as well as the way it keeps track of your progress.

I will usually ignore the reading and either sing or just talk.

I've told myself and have been told I look like my brother.  My face is a bit on the long,  angular side and I have thick eyebrows and plenty of stubble.  I'm very much masculine in features that I forgot what I've looked like before.

Its so normal I don't think of it anymore,  it's just my face,  a nice attractive face.

This is a very great question/post.

I was just talking with a (cis-male) co-worker about possible FFS, which I currently don't think about ever doing. (money and pain)

I do have different feelings about my face, depending on my mood, and also greatly depending on how a particular picture looks. When I look in the mirror however, I am much happier with what I see, although there are still a lot of masculine features. Since 2003 or so I only have 4 facial pictures (passport and business headshot) of myself. After coming out and transitioning I probably have 4 pictures per hour.

I am not currently using make up to hide masculine features and bring out more feminine looks because I am doing electrolysis every Wednesday, and don't want to have possible skin issues.

Most of the time I am okay with my looks, but for example at work, where of course I am 100% out, I am holding back on my femininity a little. At home I have two 11x14 headshot portraits framed in a 16x20 frame displayed on top and next to my 55 inch TV, with a portrait on my mom and me in between. Every time I go to sleep or feel a little down, I look at these and feel much better. One of the two portraits is my avatar here.

Mood, looks and how I see my face are directly related to one and another. What also helps me a lot is when I am shopping or somewhere out and about, and I hear people referring to me as a lady. (or woman, female pronounce etc.)

I think 80% of the time I feel okay about my face. (that's without makeup)

Quote from: Cassi on March 24, 2018, 10:03:21 PM
So, in reading the passage did Dorian Grey get the girl?  Kidding.

I think he got the artist on his lawn.

I used to hate the mirror. I tried to be the best wife and mom in the world while being deep in denial. My image in my head did not match my looks. I looked like a drag queen if I tried makeup or long hair.

Today I accept myself for who I am. My dysphoria is not about my face. It's about my gigantic chest.

I took two pics of me now on my balcony. Different angles. I am pretty happy about myself atm. I am pre T. I am excited to see what T can do to me. Maybe I'll get a beard. I'd like that.

https://imgur.com/a/6Biuy


Tony

Quote from: MeTony on March 25, 2018, 08:58:21 AM
I used to hate the mirror. I tried to be the best wife and mom in the world while being deep in denial. My image in my head did not match my looks. I looked like a drag queen if I tried makeup or long hair.

Today I accept myself for who I am. My dysphoria is not about my face. It's about my gigantic chest.

I took two pics of me now on my balcony. Different angles. I am pretty happy about myself atm. I am pre T. I am excited to see what T can do to me. Maybe I'll get a beard. I'd like that.

https://imgur.com/a/6Biuy


Tony

Even without a beard you're quite passable. If I saw you in public I would definitely think you were a guy. And you're pre T. I think after T you will be 110% passable .

I have an add-on...
I just had a new passport shot taken - and I absolutely hate that pic! I just don't feel comfortable looking at it. And now it's gonna be on my IDs so have to show it to everyone - cringe x(! Well I bet pretty much everyone hates theirs... but somehow that just doesn't look like 'me'!

I'm thinking maybe I'm expecting to see a pic of an actual guy with beard and all? Like a pic of a cis guy I see in my head with my mind's eye...? I hate it when I look 'mtf' - that's my term for when I look sort of in-between... Obviously I don't look that feminine as I'm masculine in general, so I don't think I look like a woman per se. But then I don't look like a man either...! Just weirdish. It's because I use eyeliner etc. so sometimes I think I look like mtf early on in transition!

I'm not sure if others are able to see what I'm seeing in it! But it feels almost like a fake. I just have an uneasy feeling looking at that. Like it's hard to tell what gender I am.

The mtf feeling is hard to describe and not sure if others see my pics like that - but I'm not able to see a 'female' in my pics so I just see guy/male who's on HRT and on estrogen to become a woman and the makeup kinda accentuates that  . I especially hate the pics I look 'mtf' in!!! When I don't look like a girl even, but like something uneasy/weird... [And note: this in no way has to do anything with real mtfs/trans women! Just my way of describing to myself what's that weird ->-bleeped-<- I'm seeing...]

Aargh looking at that passport pic is driving me crazy!!! It just makes me feel like something is missing, like a beard or...  I hope others are unable to see what I'm seeing when they check my ID... x(((

I don't look like myself in my driver's license. It is 7 years old.  I always bring my work ID with me. It's 2 years old. The police looked at me and my driver's license three times before he accepted it was me and not stolen. LOL

I take it with ease. I think it is funny I don't look like myself at all.


Tony

Quote from: PurpleWolf on March 25, 2018, 09:18:40 AM
I have an add-on...
I just had a new passport shot taken - and I absolutely hate that pic! I just don't feel comfortable looking at it. And now it's gonna be on my IDs so have to show it to everyone - cringe x(! Well I bet pretty much everyone hates theirs... but somehow that just doesn't look like 'me'!

I'm thinking maybe I'm expecting to see a pic of an actual guy with beard and all? Like a pic of a cis guy I see in my head with my mind's eye...? I hate it when I look 'mtf' - that's my term for when I look sort of in-between... Obviously I don't look that feminine as I'm masculine in general, so I don't think I look like a woman per se. But then I don't look like a man either...! Just weirdish. It's because I use eyeliner etc. so sometimes I think I look like mtf early on in transition!

I'm not sure if others are able to see what I'm seeing in it! But it feels almost like a fake. I just have an uneasy feeling looking at that. Like it's hard to tell what gender I am.

The mtf feeling is hard to describe and not sure if others see my pics like that - but I'm not able to see a 'female' in my pics so I just see guy/male who's on HRT and on estrogen to become a woman and the makeup kinda accentuates that  . I especially hate the pics I look 'mtf' in!!! When I don't look like a girl even, but like something uneasy/weird... [And note: this in no way has to do anything with real mtfs/trans women! Just my way of describing to myself what's that weird ->-bleeped-<- I'm seeing...]

Aargh looking at that passport pic is driving me crazy!!! It just makes me feel like something is missing, like a beard or...  I hope others are unable to see what I'm seeing when they check my ID... x(((

You have my total sympathy Mr. Wolf. I totally hate my drivers license picture! It's a total tragedy! It looks like my face was put on hot and it ran! I totally hate it. I try to avoid showing my ID if at all possible.

Pics like that passport make me think 'what am I doing?' 'who am I trying to fool here?!' I really don't look like a guy. I just look like an ugly woman(?) !

Quote from: Julia1996 on March 25, 2018, 09:23:48 AM
You have my total sympathy Mr. Wolf. I totally hate my drivers license picture! It's a total tragedy! It looks like my face was put on hot and it ran! I totally hate it. I try to avoid showing my ID if at all possible.

Julia, I highly doubt that  ! I highly doubt you are able to look bad in any pic...