Quote from: Degenderate on April 10, 2018, 05:24:26 PM
Just...so gay. I'm A-OK with cis dudes, and I think trans guys are hot as hell, but I would have a really tough time being with a non-transitioning trans dude, purely because female genitals freak me right out. Makes me feel guilty, since I am a non-transitioning trans dude. But that dysphoria, man...
Quote from: SeptagonScars on April 11, 2018, 12:10:26 PM
I get that guilty feeling. Although I am transitioning, I too can't imagine myself with a non-transitioning trans guy. I'm fine with female genitals, but then that is the only female trait that I am fine with... so I feel guilty about having "requirements" of other trans guys' medical transitions to be attracted to them.
That feels like I'm shallow and have a checklist for what's "approved" or something. As though that's insensitive. But then I also can't really help what I'm attracted to and what I'm not. I think for me, that's a big reason I tend to prefer aiming for cis guys while just being open to other trans guys, if that would just so happen.
I would not be able to be with a non-transitioning transman either and I don't feel guilty about it at all and I don't think that anyone should have to feel guilty about not being attracted to certain sex characteristics. I am attracted to the male physique and I find the female body unaesthetic, I find tits gross and vaginas outright repulsive, plus I don't even like high-pitched voices at all. So of course I only feel attraction towards men who possess a male appearance what includes male body parts whether biological or surgically reconstructed.
That has nothing to do with me being shallow or judgemental or insensitive or whatever, it's just me being gay and only attracted to male parts.
And I honestly would get quite unpleasant if someone ever accused me of being shallow or insensitive or a lot of worse stuff I am not, solely because of my natural sexual orientation and because I don't ever want to get anywhere near tits and vaginas because I am repulsed by those parts.
Unfortunately there are people of certain political ideologies screaming bigot and transphobe in order to guilt trip people if they aren't attracted to and not willing to be in a sexual relationship with people regardless of genitalia and sex characteristics. And for those people to place such a judgement onto others due to an aspect they can't change (sexual orientation/attraction) or chose or do anything about is actual bigotry in my book.
Aside from all of that, hypothetically speaking, who would it help if I dated a non-transitioning transman? And why would he want to be with someone like me who was not attracted to his body in the first place? I think he wouldn't want that!
It wouldn't work. It would have the potential to worsen his dysphoria and everyone would lose big time.
Plus, I personally think that the person deserved to be with someone who found him attractive that way and I couldn't provide that.