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Unpopular opinion?

Started by acidonangles, May 24, 2018, 02:10:14 PM

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AquaWhatever

I mean, is this seriously a unpopular opinion? (Not to mock you OP).
I see myself the same way. Biologically I am and will always be female.
Brain might be female but wired wrong.

I'm comfortable presenting as male and looking male and going by male pronouns because
in my brain that connects more to me than female.

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SeptagonScars

Quote from: acidonangles on May 25, 2018, 11:04:35 AM
You just explained how I feel so much better than I did. I would also like to add that I don't think it matters what anyone's sex is, well besides for medical reasons.

I'm glad I could help putting your feelings into words better. The only times someone else's sex matters to me is if I'm deciding whether I'd want to date/have sex with them or not. Other times, except from medical, no I don't think it matters either.
Mar. 2009 - came out as ftm
Nov. 2009 - changed my name to John
Mar. 2010 - diagnosed with GID
Aug. 2010 - started T, then stopped after 1 year
Aug. 2013 - started T again, kept taking it since
Mar. 2014 - top surgery
Dec. 2014 - legal gender marker changed to male
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Jul. 2018 - came out as cis woman and began detransition
Sep. 2018 - stopped taking T and changed my name to Laura
Oct. 2018 - got new ID-card

Medical Detransition plans: breast reconstruction surgery, change legal gender back to female.
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BT04

I don't really give a damn anymore. At some point the semantics and the hair-splitting really has to stop. All that matters in the end is being as comfortable as humanly possible. How I refer to myself behind closed doors with my doctor is between me and them; how I refer to myself in the company of strangers is between me and them, how I refer to myself in the company of close friends is between me and them, how I refer to myself between me and my husband is between me and him, and how I refer to myself when I'm alone is nobody's business.

There's no one way to go about it. Let the doctors do their thing, let the layfolk do theirs, and let me do mine. I care about what science says about as much of the time as I do traffic laws - that is, when it's important to civility, keeping reasonably safe, and if it's absolutely vital to getting to where I need to go. But beyond that, get out of my way.
- Seth

Ex-nonbinary trans man, married to a straight guy, still in love. Pre-T, pre-op.
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meatwagon

considering that being transgender is at least partly physical (something something brain differentiation) and not just some "mental condition", i'm not really inclined to say that my sex is purely female.. because clearly on some level it's not, even if the visible external parts had enough female characteristics to be labeled as such.  that's why i say "assigned female"; just because it couldn't be seen from the outside doesn't mean it wasn't there.  obviously if we're talking about going to the doctor, whether or not your brain counts as intersex tends to be irrelevant.  when the external parts are all that count, sure.  but those are the only cases in which i would use/accept that terminology.
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nightingale95

I have much the same view, though I still prefer the term transsexual as it is my sex characteristics which cause me distress, not my assigned gender role.

Biologically I'm male, but so long as I appear female to people, I'm satisfied. And if they know I'm trans and want to call me a "man", "he", etc. it's really not as hurtful as it would be for others since I feel I am wholly and completely myself and calling me "he" is akin to calling a cis woman "he."

This is the ideal view because it is both affirming of my social experience (being perceived as biologically female and thus experiencing sexism) and grounded in reality (that I am biologically male).

I'm just happy that I only require SRS in order to effectively "change sex." Any more and I would feel artificial. Objectively I may be a highly feminine male, but it's better than the alternative.
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Peep

Quote from: BT04 on June 07, 2018, 01:23:47 PM
I don't really give a damn anymore. At some point the semantics and the hair-splitting really has to stop. All that matters in the end is being as comfortable as humanly possible. How I refer to myself behind closed doors with my doctor is between me and them; how I refer to myself in the company of strangers is between me and them, how I refer to myself in the company of close friends is between me and them, how I refer to myself between me and my husband is between me and him, and how I refer to myself when I'm alone is nobody's business.

There's no one way to go about it. Let the doctors do their thing, let the layfolk do theirs, and let me do mine. I care about what science says about as much of the time as I do traffic laws - that is, when it's important to civility, keeping reasonably safe, and if it's absolutely vital to getting to where I need to go. But beyond that, get out of my way.

^^ this! cis people don't think about their chromosomes and neither do i. pronouns are semantics, not biology, and so i don't see how it's really relevant to anyone but me, and even i'm not interested.

even medically it's not 100% relevant, and if we're on HRT, or have had a hysto/ phallo etc, we aren't medically going to have (all of) the same health needs or risks as an average cis woman. medical relevance also varies on how you define sex - by genitalia, by predominant hormones, or by chromosomes. If it's genitalia, well you can change that; predominant sex chromosomes also can be changed; chromosomes aren't actually as important as people seem to think and most people never even know what they have for certain. blood type is medically more important that chromosomes.
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