My dad told my uncle he couldn't believe his own brother would say that stuff to me and that he should get some therapy. Then he told him he needed to stay the hell away from me and that if he ran into me by accident, like at my grandparents, to stay away from me and not to say anything at all. Then he told him it was pretty rich that he would accuse Tyler and I of incest when he had asked for a picture of my genitalia being my uncle and all.  He told him if there were any further incidents then he would take action and that my uncle totally would not like what happened. This time even my uncle's wife wasn't on his side. My dad told her he needed to talk to my uncle in private and she refused and told him she wasn't going anywhere. He said when she found out what my uncle did she was not happy. My uncle said it wasn't a big deal and that he just wanted to see if it looked real. She told him it didn't matter what it looked like and he shouldn't concern himself with it. Then when she found out what he said about Tyler and I she said that was just sick and asked him why something like that would even be something he would even think about.

My dad said he was going to tell my grandparents about what he said. I did tell Tyler about it. He was really disgusted and said my uncle was a sick ##. When I told him about the incest comments my uncle made he just rolled his eyes and said according to my uncles perved out  thinking he and I should have left the state and tried to get married under assumed names. He said my uncle has been fixated on the whole incest idea for so long that he has to wonder if the idea of incest has some sick appeal to him and he wonders if my uncle is secretly into it or something. I can't even imagine what my grandparents are going to say to my uncle over all this but I totally doubt it will be anything good.

That's good news. He made his own bed, now he has to lie in it.

OMG!!!!!!! I am so so sorry that happened to you. You would think  family would have respect for each other.

I think this is one of the most shocking posts I have ever read on this site and echo the views of all of the previous respondents.

I once heard about a study which concluded that the most homophobic individuals were often those who were trying to cover up the fact that they were 'turned on' by homosexuality.  I wonder whether your uncle's vile comments were driven not by disgust for you but by a deep seated fascination and admiration for what you have achieved.

Whatever the reason, though, the whole thing is inexcusable and disgusting

Up to this incident, I thought that maybe, just maybe, your uncle, by projecting his own macho fears onto you, was trying in a twisted way to "save" you from GRS.  I thought that by sending you flowers and a get well card while you were recovering, he might just be starting to accept that you are a woman and might let up on his harassment.

Now, however, it is undisputibly clear that he is just a vindictive pig.

What your uncle said was so awful that I would suspect that he was trying to provoke you and your father into taking legal action, or cause trouble with your grandparents, over an incident that you might not be able to prove.  Your uncle may have been thinking that as there is already a restraining order against your mother, it might look as though you and your father are troublemakers if action was taken against him too.  I don't know anything about US law but in Britain there is the concept of "vexatious litigation", in which a history of taking repeated legal action can be held against a plaintiff.  However, two such actions would not be enough to qualify.  Besides, your uncle admitted, to your father, the vile things that he said to you.

I am so sorry that you have such a relative.  Avoid him, avoid him, avoid him!  Someone who is not ashamed to admit saying those things is capable of anything.

Hello Julie
I know that we're at opposite ends of the spectrum but yet were cut from the same cloth.
I honestly did my best to stay out of this sensing all the passion expressed.
I'm really kind of horrified by everything I read twice and stepped outside to take a little walk trying to stay out of it but I'm so used to being wrong, how much worse can it get but anyways
the only inspiration I receive through nature mainly
Despite of his previous actions please do not give up on your uncle, people do definitely change over time. As I most sincerely wish this would happen for you.
And even if this is within the slightest realm of possibility , do not totally give up on him as I have no uncles left I wish I had even a slight chance with one that felt as yours did.

I know that my sentiment expressed was unlike any other reply I read, so please beat up on me as much as you want.

  and to Julia I only wish the very best for you dear
I have learned from only the couple months I've been here that people do change and sometimes emotions are put to rest over a period of time and this is what I ultimately wish for you dear sometimes blood is thicker than water.
Are we not All God's Children and all equal to draw breath none the less, as many feel we should not even have this right to
breathe.


all the very best to your future love Tatiana

Hi Julia,                  22 July 2018

Sorry for the stupidity and obnoxiousness of that POS pseudo relative. I hope your Dad beats the crap out of him. He being a good cop won't do that but I bet he feels like it. I'm going to guess this jerk is quite a bit younger than your Dad.

If he has children it might be a good idea to have someone ask them if their father ever molested them. If he did there's a good chance he could spend a good bit of time in the "Graybar Hotel" where he will be treated accordingly by the other inmates.

Something you might want to do is buy a pocket voice recorder and keep it handy in case you have another encounter with him. That would probably be enough evidence to get a judge to issue a restraining order against him. If he violates it he could very well end up in jail.

I wish I could use the unique vocabulary I acquired in the Navy in describing my exact sentiments on this *tard; the censors would have hard-attacks had I choose to do so; I'd most likely be banned for life or maybe even executed or excommunicated.

Well Julia, I want to apologize for the human race for having spawned that useless piece of garbage. Unfortunately nature isn't always perfect and scum manages to slip through the cracks.

I'm happy you are back; hope all is well with you health wise. You are without a doubt one of my favorite poster's on this site. You have a unique talent, which I hope you will use in your professional life. You are truly gifted.

Best Always, Love,
Christine 

It may seem like a minor point in relation to the incident but it does concern me.

When your uncle said those vile things, you got into your car and drove away.  It is understandable that you wanted to get away as quickly as possible.  You must have been very upset, though, which is hardly the safest state of mind for driving.  You don't need my advice on driving safely but in future, if you must drive in such a state, consider driving very carefully for only a short distance and parking safely until you feel calm.

Quote from: Julia1996 on July 22, 2018, 09:45:46 AM
My dad told my uncle he couldn't believe his own brother would say that stuff to me and that he should get some therapy. Then he told him he needed to stay the hell away from me and that if he ran into me by accident, like at my grandparents, to stay away from me and not to say anything at all. Then he told him it was pretty rich that he would accuse Tyler and I of incest when he had asked for a picture of my genitalia being my uncle and all.  He told him if there were any further incidents then he would take action and that my uncle totally would not like what happened. This time even my uncle's wife wasn't on his side. My dad told her he needed to talk to my uncle in private and she refused and told him she wasn't going anywhere. He said when she found out what my uncle did she was not happy. My uncle said it wasn't a big deal and that he just wanted to see if it looked real. She told him it didn't matter what it looked like and he shouldn't concern himself with it. Then when she found out what he said about Tyler and I she said that was just sick and asked him why something like that would even be something he would even think about.

My dad said he was going to tell my grandparents about what he said. I did tell Tyler about it. He was really disgusted and said my uncle was a sick ##. When I told him about the incest comments my uncle made he just rolled his eyes and said according to my uncles perved out  thinking he and I should have left the state and tried to get married under assumed names. He said my uncle has been fixated on the whole incest idea for so long that he has to wonder if the idea of incest has some sick appeal to him and he wonders if my uncle is secretly into it or something. I can't even imagine what my grandparents are going to say to my uncle over all this but I totally doubt it will be anything good.

With any luck, your uncle will be disowned by your entire family tree. He is unworthy of any compassion. He certainly sounds like a sexual predator. I am so sorry you had to deal with such a disgusting pig.

Quote from: Julia1996 on July 21, 2018, 08:29:40 PM
I took everyone's advice and told my dad when he got home. He was was very unhappy about it. His ears turned red which is always a sign he is really pissed off. He went over to my uncle's house to talk to him. I will let everyone know what happened with that when he gets home. I have no idea what my dad's going to do. But I'm sure it won't be anything violent. My dad is exceptionally good at controlling his temper and not hitting someone even though he might really want to. He had to learn that being a cop.

I'm not sure if good luck is the right term but I mean it anyway!!!
You'll have to let us know what happens. Hopefully you'll never have to see that idiot again.
Lots of love
Maria

To All,                        22 July 2018

One thing to keep in mind: Pedophiles, Child Abusers and sexual predators CANNOT be rehabilitated. Their recidivism rate is 100%. The only time rehabilitation works is when the perpetrator is imprisoned and the general population comes in contact with them. They will never offend again.

Best Always, Love,
Christine

Oh my god. I don't know how you didn't run him down with the car. What an out and out pig. So glad your family is backing you up. Send info you strength and love and keep
On moving forward and stay positive

This might sound even more twisted but I kinda sensed he might actually be attracted to trans women? Which would explain his extreme "hatred" towards you, he's just covering up for his attraction to tgirls.

Why, do my old eyes deceive me? Is that lil' Julia, back from the dead? Come on, get closer, let granny Ellie get a good look at you dearie. Why, you are as cute and sweet as ever! Here, have a butterscotch.

Quote from: Charlie Nicki on July 22, 2018, 10:12:31 PM
This might sound even more twisted but I kinda sensed he might actually be attracted to trans women? Which would explain his extreme "hatred" towards you, he's just covering up for his attraction to tgirls.

I agree! This could explain a lot.

Quote from: Roll on July 22, 2018, 10:16:36 PM
Why, do my old eyes deceive me? Is that lil' Julia, back from the dead? Come on, get closer, let granny Ellie get a good look at you dearie. Why, you are as cute and sweet as ever! Here, have a butterscotch.

The butterscotch is a lie! [emoji23]

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Quote from: Tatiana 79 on July 22, 2018, 01:42:13 PM
Hello Julie
I know that we're at opposite ends of the spectrum but yet were cut from the same cloth.
I honestly did my best to stay out of this sensing all the passion expressed.
I'm really kind of horrified by everything I read twice and stepped outside to take a little walk trying to stay out of it but I'm so used to being wrong, how much worse can it get but anyways
the only inspiration I receive through nature mainly
Despite of his previous actions please do not give up on your uncle, people do definitely change over time. As I most sincerely wish this would happen for you.
And even if this is within the slightest realm of possibility , do not totally give up on him as I have no uncles left I wish I had even a slight chance with one that felt as yours did.

I know that my sentiment expressed was unlike any other reply I read, so please beat up on me as much as you want.

  and to Julia I only wish the very best for you dear
I have learned from only the couple months I've been here that people do change and sometimes emotions are put to rest over a period of time and this is what I ultimately wish for you dear sometimes blood is thicker than water.
Are we not All God's Children and all equal to draw breath none the less, as many feel we should not even have this right to
breathe.


all the very best to your future love Tatiana

Hi Tatiana,                            23 July 2018

The more I have thought about this topic the more I realized you are on target and I'm not. There is nothing wrong with what you posted. Not agreeing with everyone is your right; you expressed a forgiving attitude and that's a good thing. The problem arises when everyone agrees and no one proposes a different opinion. This can stimulate mob rule. Issues need to be discussed and differing opinions expressed.

Your post reminded me that her uncle has not been charged or tried for a crime, but I was ready to assassinate him without a trial. I was wrong and you are right.

Never be afraid to express your opinion; this is a free country and by expressing your opinion when the crowd is moving in a different direction, you may possibly help prevent a great tragedy from occurring and help keep this country free. "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance." Thomas Jefferson

I think the best advice for Julia is to wait and see how her uncle reacts to her father's talk. If he persists in his evil ways, then law enforcement should be brought into the picture. I think her Father is the ideal person to handle this situation.

Thank you Tatiana for your post; I'm glad you posted it. A cooler head, yours, has prevailed. You are right and I was wrong.

Having Crow for supper this evening; anyone care to join me?

Best Always, Love,
Christine

 

Can we keep control over the responses please.

I would think that in today's world with the problems that we all face and the leadership issues that there are, that we would be best served by consideration and cool heads.

Please let us not have a Lynch mob mentality.

Julia is safe.
She is a strong woman and has a loving family. She raised a concern and and reported a horrible experience. She showed her grit, her maturity and her strength in dealing with it. She is very fortunate to have a father who loves and cares for her.

Please don't let her down by us lot flying off the handle!!! No matter how much we want too!!!!!

Cindy

Quote from: Julia1996 on July 22, 2018, 09:45:46 AM
......He said my uncle has been fixated on the whole incest idea for so long...

(Hugs) sweetie, he sounds revolting.

From the leaves of an unknown book - (also known as random sayings that have been picked up in the school of life), when someone tells you what they are, listen carefully.

Do you have an Aunt? Does your dad have a female close cousin? Quite simply that's one big red flag, right there that in his mind, he thinks that is normal. You ONLY think that sort of behaviour is normal when you were involved in such activities yourself. He is projecting.

Whether that is fantasy, or reality, is by the by - you need to keep yourselves safe, and posting here

(Hugs)

Rowan

It's no different in northern Missouri.  Same backwoods mentality here, too.  I avoid the parts of my family that are like that as if they have the plague.