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"Try HRT and see how you feel?"

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Megan.

Quote from: Another Nikki on September 08, 2018, 02:21:48 PM
wasn't fun because of loss of perceived positive mental effects from being on low dose, or negative effects from stopping?
The former, Dysphoria returned (as expected). X

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Another Nikki

Thanks.  I'm getting to ready to start low dose in the next 4-6 weeks with the hope it will allow me to think about something besides gender.
"What you know, you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life—that there is something wrong. You don't know what it is, but it's there like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me."
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Angelic

I will tell you the 2 main reasons I am afraid to take hormones.

1. Hormones make me feel like a kind and good person. Instead of a hollow jaded malevolent person. Why would I want to be so vunerable in a transphobic world? And even if there was no transphobia, other transpeople have been cruel and abusive to me. Why would I make myself so sensitive to that?

2. I am afraid of friends and family judging me or starting conflict. I am also afraid of horny dudes I'm not into, chasing me around.
Intolerables, everywhere...cannot escape them.
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TaraJo

Quote from: Karen on September 08, 2018, 10:57:41 AM
Thanks TaraJo

This helps.  My worry is body / breast changes.  I am not ready to transition yet and it can't impact my work.  Thus if I do estrogen, I want to be able to hide breast development for sometime. 

Thanks.

Karen

Well, I got good news for you:  Breast development can easily be hidden.  Not only will they not be these huge stripper tits overnight, but even when they are significant you can hide them with your clothing choices.  That's something to talk to trans men about, they do it all the time.  Generally, though, loose, baggy clothes help.  So do layers, like with a t-shirt and a button up shirt over it. 
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Danielle Kristina

I too am scared to start HRT, but at the same time I can't wait.  I want estrogen flowing through my body.  My therapist tells me to think of HRT as using the right fuel at last.  I have my HRT letter.  I'm just waiting to get on my employer's health insurance before I begin taking estrogen.


Danielle
April 19, 2018: First post here on Susan's Place
April 27, 2018: First session with my gender therapist
July 30, 2018: Received my HRT letter
September 3,2018: Came our for the first time

Becoming me more every day!!!
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Sarah1979

My therapist was supposed to write me my HRT letter this past Friday, but he had to attend hospital so had to cancel our appointment.  I won't be home until the 26th anyway though, but I just wanted to have it in hand for my own comfort(like maybe reducing a bit of dysphoria in and of itself.)  I absolutely cannot wait to get back on E.  I remember the peace and calm I got from being on it and wish with all my heart I hadn't had to stop, but I'll restart when I get back home. :D
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Lucy Ross

I started on the lowest doses of S/E, which gave me softer skin - and hot flashes.  Watch out for that. The lowest dose approach does make sense, I agree - for some it provides instant relief.  Maybe this pertains to those who have been living with dysphoria for a long time; I was exploring who I was, having only recently stumbled on the trans aspect of myself.

Mental changes only really showed up after about 6 months, when my T crashed. Perhaps more Spiro would have done that sooner.  From the beginning I wanted boobs, though. Boobs rock!

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2015-2017 Middle Aged Crossdresser!  Or...?
April 2017 Electrolysis Time  :icon_yikes:
July 12th, 2017 Started HRT  :icon_chick:
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jkredman

Well after being on a blood pressure drug and a proton pump inhibitor for years, both of which have a documented side effect of causing gynecomastia in a subset of men, and having a diagnosis of GD,  both lead me to decide it was time to transition.

I've always found male underwear to be hot, uncomfortable, and irritating to my skin if I'm in a sweating situation.  So wearing an undershirt was out of the question.

When I realized my nipples were standing at attention, pretty much all the time, I bought bralets, sports bras, and camesoles.  My breasts still show but at least my nipples are now decently covered, and the thinner & softer fabric along with freedom I have around my shoulders is so comfortable for me.  It's heaven.

So I changed out the bottom intimate wear also.  I've also got appointments scheduled with a gender therapist, and identified where I can start hrt based on informed consent.

After all these years of suffering suppression from the male body I unfortunately was born into, I'm looking forward to the journey

Kate


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JanePlain

Your experience mirrors mine.  I tried to testosterone up and get rid of my problem.  That failed pretty miserably.  It might be a euphoric response that is not based on the HRT but I think it has.

Quote from: Kirsteneklund7 on September 05, 2018, 06:34:36 AM
I trialled HRT under medical supervision and a psychologist. I suspected it might help. I was suffering mentally. First I tried testosterone supplement to cure my desire to be a woman along with anxiety, unease and depression. It made my situation even worse .
  In therapy I dug deep and unearthed the drivers behind wanting to be a woman. MTF HRT brought rapid relief to the point of being happy just being me . That trial gave me the answers!

  Kirsten x [emoji126]

PS I love my b-cup boobs even though I hide them for work.
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Karen

Hi all. 

I have been on AA for 2 months and doing so much better.  Much less anxious and a much clearer mind.  My T dropped to almost zero very quickly.

Can anyone who started with AA and then went to add estrogen speak to the incremental emotional impact of estrogen? 

Thanks

Karen
Karen

* felt different like I did not fit, with strong feminine feelings and gender questions my entire life
* Sept 2016 - January 2017 real began to seriously question and research gender
* August 2017 friend explains transgender and gender vs sexual orientation, and immediately felt shock and begin to believe I maybe transgender
* March 2018 after 3 therapists, accepts I am transgender and am transitioning
* July 18, 2018 began HRT
* Feb 4, 2019 began Estrogen
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Nicole70

Hi Karen,

I started on AA and very low dose E patch that had no effect, I felt a lot calmer but weak as I had no T or E in my system, once E was upped to a higher level the energy came back and emotions levelled out and my mind cleared like never before. While I don't think there is an instant that feels better, looking back after a month or so on E you can definitely notice and feel differences, I think I described it at the time as running on the right fuel for the first time in my life.

Good luck with your next step,!enjoy the ride.

Hugs

Nicole
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Lisa

Quote from: Karen on September 25, 2018, 01:08:09 AM
I have been on AA for 2 months and doing so much better.  Much less anxious and a much clearer mind.  My T dropped to almost zero very quickly.

Can anyone who started with AA and then went to add estrogen speak to the incremental emotional impact of estrogen? 

So a bit of a disclaimer here:  I suffered through pretty awful dysphoria for over 2 decades before I started transitioning, and despite being in my early 30s when I started, I've been told by several folks that I'm getting better than average results from HRT, so your mileage may vary.

I was only on AA for about a month before adding estrogen.  The AA alone cut down on my brain fog a fair bit, made me feel somewhat more present, and boosted my mood a little.  I also had significantly more energy on the AA than before, which is pretty counter intuitive, but I'm guessing it was from the mental changes.

In my case, adding the estrogen was huge, even at a 1/4-1/2 transition dose:  within a few days I felt vastly more 'present' and aware of myself and the world around me than I did on the AA alone.  My mood was significantly better and I started having good days instead of tolerable days for the first time in decades. :)

At around 2 weeks on estrogen, the way I experienced attraction and romantic feelings started changing - I always used to have a massive disconnect between my mind and body in that area and pretty much any kind of romantic thoughts used to make me feel frustrated, conflicted, confused, and just generally awful.  After a couple weeks on estrogen though, things synced up between my mind and body, and now being attracted to someone or having someone flirt with me actually feels really good! ;D

By around 3-4 weeks I felt more emotional and more expressive - I was varying my voice pitch more when speaking, using more feminine gestures, etc. without really thinking about it.  I don't think the hormones directly caused that so much as made me feel good enough that I just started acting like myself instead of hiding my feelings away from the world.

If you're worried about breast growth or other visible changes though, FYI I've started getting a decent bit of male fail at almost 5 months in, and the first month was low dose.  I do have almost full B cups at this point, and even with a fitted undershirt and 2-3 thick layers that are at least 2 sizes too big, they're still noticeable if anyone really looks; between their overall shape and me not being very muscular, they don't really pass as either pecs or man boobs either. ::)  I've had long hair for a few years and was never read as female from that alone, but now with my growing girls and the other changes to skin, hair, muscle, fat distribution, etc. it's enough to make a fair number of people question my gender.  Finally the people around me get a taste of how I felt for so long! :D

One thing that might help you on hiding the changes though is that because the change is so gradual, people who have known you before and who see you very often (like coworkers) are less likely to notice how different you look than strangers are.

Good luck, and I hope you find a way forward that's right for you!
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Myranda

Quote from: Kirsteneklund7 on September 05, 2018, 03:48:49 PM
I'm jealous - I would kill for c- cups. I'm praying for more development. You are lucky!
          Kirsten[emoji3317]


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I'd kill for B cups or to even properly fill a good A cup bra.


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TaraJo

Quote from: Karen on September 08, 2018, 10:57:41 AM
Thanks TaraJo

This helps.  My worry is body / breast changes.  I am not ready to transition yet and it can't impact my work.  Thus if I do estrogen, I want to be able to hide breast development for sometime. 

Thanks.

Karen

Don't worry, you'll still be able to hide them. 

Early development is the only part you have to watch out for and even then, you need to be more concerned with tenderness and sensitivity than visibility.  After just a few months, you hit a point where your chest starts to get a little sore and then everything your chest hits will be REALLY painful.  That being said, this can still be dealt with, just be ready for it.

After that, your chest won't get so big you won't be able to hide things.  Lose shirts, layers, sports bras, those will all keep them hidden.  There are plenty of ways to hide boobs; if there weren't, transmen would be absolutely screwed.
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GordonG

I'm a gender confused guy who lives an hour north of Seattle.
I believe that I was influenced by DES. I have crossdressed in public a handful of times, see avatar picture (enhanced with FaceApp).
I don't plan on transitioning, no GRS, FFS, nor BA.
I consider myself TransFeminine. But reserve the right to change my mind at any time.  ;D

Spironolactone; 7-16-2018
E sublinguals; 10-5-2018
Orchi; 2-15-19
No more Spiro. 

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Angelic

Quote from: Lisa on September 25, 2018, 03:06:10 AMI always used to have a massive disconnect between my mind and body in that area and pretty much any kind of romantic thoughts used to make me feel frustrated, conflicted, confused, and just generally awful.  After a couple weeks on estrogen though, things synced up between my mind and body, and now being attracted to someone or having someone flirt with me actually feels really good! ;D

Yeah same here. Except the problem is I don't look like a female. So even if my mind feels female I still feel romantically incompatible. Because I know my body is still male.

The other thing about female hormones is it either makes me feel high and female. Or does nothing and I still feel miserable and male. But the problem is when I stop the hormones I feel even worse than before. So it feels like an addiction. Although me living as a guy has made me more insane and suicidal. So I might not have a choice because living as a guy is getting me nowhere except extremely frustrated and hopeless.
Intolerables, everywhere...cannot escape them.
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AnneK

I expect I'll be finding out how HRT feels soon.  My doctor is going to refer me to an endocrinologist.  Hopefully, I'll get decent breast growth.  Looking forward to it.
I'm a 65 year old male who has been thinking about SRS for many years.  I also was a  full cross dresser for a few years.  I wear a bra, pantyhose and nail polish daily because it just feels right.

Started HRT April 17, 2019.
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NatalieRene

Quote from: Dani on September 01, 2018, 07:57:56 AM
This sounds like an experimenting with drugs. You never know what undesirable side effects may occur. Yes, we do have some idea with medical drugs, but side effects are not 100%. Sometimes they cause problems and sometimes not.

I do not recommend experimenting with drugs. Know yourself and accept yourself first. Then use hormone therapy to help do what you need to do.

I know it sounds strange but that is how my therapist started me. She told me if you do not feel right taking the hormones stop and we can reassess where that leaves me. For me HRT had a calming effect and I didn't have a sense of dread other then what I was going to say to come out at work and with my family.

To a limited extent HRT for no more then 30 days could be considered a pressure valve release to see what the proper course of action is.

Although things may have changed in the last 8 years so my information might be a little out of date.
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Angelic

Quote from: NatalieRene on November 10, 2018, 02:19:46 PM
I know it sounds strange but that is how my therapist started me. She told me if you do not feel right taking the hormones stop and we can reassess where that leaves me. For me HRT had a calming effect and I didn't have a sense of dread other then what I was going to say to come out at work and with my family.

To a limited extent HRT for no more then 30 days could be considered a pressure valve release to see what the proper course of action is.

Although things may have changed in the last 8 years so my information might be a little out of date.

In that case, what is your opinion of this. The hormones either make me feel high, or exactly the same. But when I stop taking hormones I feel withdrawal effects and start to go crazy.
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NatalieRene

Quote from: Angelic on November 10, 2018, 02:33:47 PM
In that case, what is your opinion of this. The hormones either make me feel high, or exactly the same. But when I stop taking hormones I feel withdrawal effects and start to go crazy.

I couldn't comment about the feeling of being high. I've never had any drugs.

What I can say is estrodiol has a calming effect on me. It doesn't mean I don't get upset but I'm not nearly as volatile.
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