It was co-written by a dude, one Ray Burton.  And the band was all male too, and a pretty good one.

In fact, she had one of the best line-ups in LA backing her. The twanging guitar that opens the song was provided by Mike Deasy, whose CV boasts sessions with The Beach Boys, Elvis Presley, Barbra Streisand, The Fifth Dimension and Frank Sinatra. Jim Horn, who had played on The Righteous Brothers' "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'," was on woodwind. The drummer was Jim Gordon, whose credits included The Beach Boys' Pet Sounds and John Lennon's "Imagine". On piano was Michael Melvoin, who had probably played on more Monkees songs than any of the Monkees. There was also Joe Osborn (bass), who had recorded with Billy Joel; Dick "Slide" Hyde (trombone) was a veteran of sessions with Glen Campbell and Bread; and longtime Buddy Rich band member Don Menza played sax. Backing vocals were by Kathy Deasy, whose voice graces records by Johnny Rivers, Kenny Loggins and The Byrds.

Wow, a lot of work went into that song re: musicians, writers, producer, back-up etc. 

Great song, very empowering.  Helen's back here now, lost most of her money cause she got ripped off by the bastard men in her life.  Same old story, drugs, mismanagement, con artists.
She doesn't perform any more but she does public speaking at functions occasionally.

She made over $40 Million - US - from that song alone.  That a lot of ripping off.

Don't I know about getting riped off but it's to long a story to get into here. It don't mater that was way back there and I now here. I am looked after and not in need and I am happy. I will only say that it's quite true that if you have money the vultures come out of the wood work.

Cindy

Quote from: tekla on March 12, 2008, 04:52:56 PM
It was co-written by a dude, one Ray Burton.  And the band was all male too, and a pretty good one.

In fact, she had one of the best line-ups in LA backing her. The twanging guitar that opens the song was provided by Mike Deasy, whose CV boasts sessions with The Beach Boys, Elvis Presley, Barbra Streisand, The Fifth Dimension and Frank Sinatra. Jim Horn, who had played on The Righteous Brothers' "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'," was on woodwind. The drummer was Jim Gordon, whose credits included The Beach Boys' Pet Sounds and John Lennon's "Imagine". On piano was Michael Melvoin, who had probably played on more Monkees songs than any of the Monkees. There was also Joe Osborn (bass), who had recorded with Billy Joel; Dick "Slide" Hyde (trombone) was a veteran of sessions with Glen Campbell and Bread; and longtime Buddy Rich band member Don Menza played sax. Backing vocals were by Kathy Deasy, whose voice graces records by Johnny Rivers, Kenny Loggins and The Byrds.

Tekla, since I was a kid I've always read album liner notes, and would sometimes even buy albums I hadn't heard of because I recognized favorite sidepersons. 

Z

I love being female cos my 3brothers treat me like princess, they can be mean to each other, but when it comes to me, the treat me like a lady princess.

Hi Pauline
That is simply wonderful news. It is so nice to hear good news from the girls here when it comes to family. But every now and again one here gets the support of family, brothers even "wow!"! More often then not, boys especially brothers can be difficult to get along with even under normal circumstances. I would say that this is a rare and wonderful occurrence.  You just keep on going what ever you are doing because it appears to me like are doing the right thing.

Cindy

Quote from: cindybc on March 18, 2008, 02:42:53 AM
Hi Pauline
That is simply wonderful news. It is so nice to hear good news from the girls here when it comes to family. But every now and again one here gets the support of family, brothers even "wow!"! More often then not, boys especially brothers can be difficult to get along with even under normal circumstances. I would say that this is a rare and wonderful occurrence.  You just keep on going what ever you are doing because it appears to me like are doing the right thing.

Cindy

Hi Cindy
Yes I had the support of my family for my transition but it came with a price, I was to do it their way or not at all, specially my Mom at the time, instead of being their depressed, bored, cranky terrible son, I was to become their ''lovely pretty daughter'' sometimes it caused tension, and my brothers who where typical boys who loved their football and rough games where taught by Mom and Dad to treat me and respect me as a girl.
I remember 1  incident a year into my transition, I was away on vacation and relations came to visit and stay over, my brother was asked to vacate his room for a night for our uncle to stay, he was told to use my room but he refused, saying he didn't want to sleep in a girl's room cos it was sissy and girly, my bedroom was very girly all done out in different shades of pinks, not a place my brother would like LOL! thats the kind of girl my Mom wanted me to be, I remember my Mom forbid me to wear pyjamas, saying they where too boyish, so I just did what I was told so as I could complete my transition, when I read some of the stories here, I surpose  I should be thankful, anyway Im now my own woman, time is a healer.
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Hi Pauline, nice to see you again. "Wow!!"  I just loved your story before. That is so wonderful, a fantasy princess like story and of course I am looking forward to hearing more about youre journey since the last time you were here. I admire the other kids here for their accomplishment, but it was certainly not a walk in the park for them. Having an early start is something I wished I could have had and then have a full life ahead of me as the true me. 

I will send prayers for you and all of the younger folks here that your journeys be happy and fulfilling.

I was a late starter, but I didn't have to answer to anyone, I just up and did it and if anyone did not like the idea, they could blow it out their nose. I do not have any regrets and I guess I am blessed in many ways that my transitioning turned out to be like it was meant to be and was a relatively smooth journey. It has been a wonderful experience and I have never been happier, and I believe I deserve to be happy, I have earned it after all the suffering in my prior life.

Cindy

Re: What do you LIKE about being female?

Period pain.....cellulite......giving birth....

That's what it's like to be female.........we can only imagine!

I do so agree with you, Berliegh. Although I was blessed with having 11 children under my roof over the years, it's not the same as giving birth to a child, your own child. I would give anything for that privilege. Growing up as a girl and learning about the different feelings and knowledge that young girl experience, I'll never know that.  It won't matter how much I wish to have lived a full life as a girl, I can only hope to mimic the life of a natal girl to the best of my ability but there will always a big gap in that part of my  life.

Cindy

Being compared to something whimsical and natural from the old pantheon. It was a great compliment actually.

I think they called me Artemis. 

What I truly LOVE about being female, are the enhanced sensitivities, the intuition, the endless ways of self-expression, and increased perception. These are among the qualities that, as a MTF TS, I find give the TS experience the greatest meaning and value.

.........not having to try to live up to being the male that I was mistakenly born.  Female is a nice way to be, it has a certain warmth about it and it feels so natural.   No more false ego, no more aggression, no more secrets, no more hiding myself away because of low self esteem.....No.

I do not pretend to understand a F to M and will never criticise such a person but in my own mind, Female is a better place to be. 

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I dont think there is any greater joy for a woman, than children, hers by biology or not.
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i would love a child. One child for me would mean the world...

Giggles, I have three. Kids are great and all. But, They have a mind of there own and they talk back. I still get a tear in my eye in the middle of the night when they are peacefullly asleep as i watched them dream.  You don't get that during the day.


As a Pre-op Girl i love how i feel inside. Still adjusting to the social aspect of relating to other's as a girl. I love my emotional and mental state. I feel right for once in this world.

Hi Robin_p , never repress the feelings that come from within. It is good to cry, just forget the "old tapes" in your mind that were recorded in the past. This is a new life, a new beginning, as well as a time to explore and know she within that is you.

Allow yourself to grow and evolve into the new you. Tears are good, they are an expression of the inner self. Geeee, sometimes I will cry for many different reasons and it helps to release the pain, for happiness sometimes, for sentimentality, and, oh my, can't forget sometimes even a good joke, that can also release a tear or two.  There are so many different reasons you will find worthy of tears.  The need for crying and the reasons for crying are not always bad and not always good, hon. It's mixture of many different feelings, almost always spontaneous.

Cindy 

I never cry, even when I want to so badly

Maybe HRT might help

Hi April221, welcome sister to the the consciousness of the intuitive sensitive. and yes I can attribute much of the heightened sensitivities to Estrogen.

Cindy

Quote from: cindybc on April 06, 2008, 04:41:05 AM
Hi April221, welcome sister to the the consciousness of the intuitive sensitive. and yes I can attribute much of the heightened sensitivities to Estrogen.

Cindy

These are all things that I've been  aware of for many years prior to HRT. I've enjoyed all of these benefits since I was a child. It has also led to many problems over the years, however, as I would occasionally say something that no man should have any knowledge of. My comment to a female co-worker that "women's intuition is for more than survival in the dating game," didn't go over very well. When I came out to my co-workers prior to my retirement, most of my female friends already knew that I was TS, or "something like that," because I "knew too much."

I was quite passable as a 20 year old MTF, and HRT wasn't available at that time, but I made the decision to try to live out my life as a male. I did not think that happiness was attainable, and help was non-existant in 1970. I just wanted to fit in, pursue a job/career. All that I wanted to do, was survive. No matter how hard I tried to "be a guy," It were those very elements that I've mentioned in my post that prevented me from being fully accepted. Women found me "strange," but "in a nice way!", and men usually kept their distance. So did I. My sensitivities, my intuition, my emotional and spiritual being are part of my core self, and these are not things that can be changed to accommodate the synthetic male image that I was trying to project. And yes, these are among the gifts that I value the most when I think of what it means to be a woman. And yes, I cry at movies. Always have. Cried a flood with "Titanic"! Loved every minute of it!!!

Cindy wearing a Kimono walks through the door with the string curtain, stops, clasps hands together, closes eyes and bows slightly to April in respect. Ya I got a thing for writing short stories but at this moment all I desire to say hun that your story is pretty well a carbon copy of mine. I have been living a woman for the past 8 years and have only experienced little negativity, maybe I am blessed, I have a whole flock of guardian angels watching over me. "hee, hee, hee."

But living a a woman at times has been a blissful experience. To merge body and soul together as one. I have always been one to love and care for others, and that I have done to the best of my ability. I have also been working as a social worker for the past 20 years and also worked the last 8 years as Cindy.

I have moved to Vancouver from Ontario and I have made some friends and none of them know anything about my past and that is the way I plan on keeping it. Or if I do relate to anything from my past it in the female gender. You see hon, when you get to the other end of transitioning you are no longer the same person you were before literally, and there is no going back, but then who wants to go back to self destruction? Well hon I had more typed out here but I must have hit the insert button and ended up deleting an entire sentence. I do hope that we cross paths again.

Cindy