JW's.... ya gotta love them.

A few years ago, they came up my long driveway in a car.  There were four of them.  My Queensland Heeler (not a very big dog but an excellent coyote killer) met them when they stopped.  The driver rolled down the window and queried "Will the dog bite?"  I answered "I don't know, she's never tasted a Jehovah Witness before."  He said "Oh, well then may I give you a pamphlet?"  "You'd better not stick your hand out the window." I replied.  But it was too late.  He had his hand half way out his window and the dog had launched herself from 10 feet away.  He managed to get his hand back just in the nick of time but his pamphlet was instantly shredded.

Dog has been a real pest to my two neighbors who also share the road that runs in the front of my house.  But, for the next three years, they loved that dog.  For they did not get another visit from the Jehovah Witnesses in all that time.

Cindi

Only 144,000 huh?


http://www.sinfest.net

Quote from: lady amarant on February 22, 2008, 03:23:06 PM
Only 144,000 huh?

144,000 in heaven as a ruling class.
Rest are servants to Jehovah on a paradise earth.

They have had several doctrine changes (aka in JW speak New Light) since I been there.
I know this crap because I was force to attend their meeting until age 17.  My half of my family are JW's which is going to make coming out interesting and very painful. I'm been pretty much been very agnostic since age 10 with everything that has happen to me.

Anna

According to the book of Revelations, 12,000 people from each of the twelve tribes of Israel will be saved. That totals 144,000. In the Lords eyes, a thousand years is like three hours on a night watch.
Try this math with creating the universe in seven days. How many worlds with inteiegent centient beings are there residing on them?

Now lets see..... where did I park my space ship last?

Cindy

Quote from: cindybc on February 22, 2008, 03:16:53 PM
"Hee, hee, hee." Is someone running out of topics?
Cindy

Hi Cindy.  I think I can go to almost any topic and find it interesting.

The 6'3" 280 pound Black, 33 year-old, truck driver with a high school education from the Bronx still visits me every two weeks on Sunday afternoon after I attend the Methodist Church with my wife.  (I was baptized Catholic, confirmed a Lutheran, married in the Presbyterian Church, currently attend the Methodist Church, and study with a Jehovah witness.)  I guess I am a free spirit.  My wife says I will need to attend a more liberal Church if I express my inner self more openly.  I guess the Christians would reject me if I look too different. 

The man that studies with me (I will call him Mr. C) frequently brings a companion to my house.  My wife will not join in the discussions and readings.  One week Mr. C brought a nice white lady (Sara- real name) to the home and we got into a discussion regarding the 16 year old girl friend of my 16 year old daughter.  My daughter's friend was a boy at 15 at their high school and befriended my daughter many years ago.  Sara felt Jehovah would accept the 16 year old girl that was born a boy.

I agree with some of the studies Mr. C has conducted but I do have issues with no blood transfusions and only the 144,000 can participate in the Lord's meal.  I got invited to the "Lord's Supper" at the Jehovah Witnesses' Church and attended.  At the meeting Sara's husband, Mark, sat next to me during the prayers and sermon.  I asked Mark how can you tell if you are one of the 144,000 and can partake in the Lord's Supper?  He told me that was easy. He said you know at birth and are selected by Jehovah and it is as clear as you know your gender.

Wow.  I am very paranoid and that analogy referring to gender makes me suspicious.  I am sure it is just one of many coincidences that I over analyze.  I did not partake in the Lord's Supper out of respect for the Jehovah witnesses and since I am not one of the 144,000.  I will partake of the Lord's Supper at the Methodist Church out of respect for Jesus Christ.  I did find the service interesting and I look forward to my studies with Mr. C.

W

I have a 105lb dog trained to Schutzhund 3. He is friendly but if you become aggressive towards me you better think twice because he won't. We lived in an apartment and had a real problem with the JWs. They would go around without mentioning their religion and talk about the enviroment etc. If you didn't realize they put you on their list of people who wanted to talk to them in our building and every time they were challenged they kept saying they had a list of people that wanted to talk to them and they were just visiting them. Bull but it took a bit before people realized what they were doing. My landlord, other tenants and I wrote a letter asking them not to return and sent a copy registered mail to the local kingdom hall, they ignored it. Finally one day they came to my door again, I told them to leave and tried to close the door but the guy stuck his foot in my door and started reaching for my dog. I warned him that the dog was a trained protection dog and didn't want to be touch (the dog was beginning to growl), to remove his foot and leave my home. He threatened to call the police and tell them my dog attacked him. I just laughed and told him if he did that the police would expect quite a few injuries and would charge him with filing a false report.

He refused to back off so I leashed my dog and stepped in the hall. I explained to him that his kingdom hall had been warned, he was going door to door and it was time for him to leave. I am not a big guy but I just slowly forced him back by stepping slightly into his personal space until we made it to the elevator. The whole time this guy was going nuts calling me the devil, telling me I was going to hell etc. By the end of it a couple other tenants were laughing at them. The woman he with was just staring at the ground while her partner cursed and called down the wrath of god on me. I wouldn't allow them to continue knocking on doors or harass anyone but me. It took about 15 minutes to make it to the front door but by then he was so out of control my landlord saw what was happening and called the police. He was arrested for trespassing once the police saw the letter we sent registered mail.

I am patient with people but if I tell you to leave I mean it and will enforce it. If I have any questions or want to talk I know where my local kingdom hall is and I will go to them. Incidentally they are allowed to knock on your door but if you write a letter like I did and they return, call the police. The police will warn them that if they don't leave or if they come back they will be arrested. That will usually stop it but if not press charges and that will stop it. I didn't see them around again.

->-bleeped-<-boy

Entertaining stories.  Especially by those with dogs.

I've also noticed, as have others, that answering the door and talking just encourages them to come back, even if you tell them you're not interested or whatever. 

I just stopped answering the door.  From the sidewalk near our apartment you can tell that we're home, but I figured they'd go away eventually if I just left them out there long enough.  And they do.  Usually only takes 30 seconds, maybe a minute.  It was the weirdest feeling the first time I did it, like I was cheating on the whole solicitor-solicitee relationship.  I muted the TV and didn't make a sound, lest I be found out.  And then I realized that hey, these people were showing up uninvited at my home.  If I don't feel like opening the door to talk to solicitors or JWs  or whatever, they can stand out there until kingdom come.  %$^! 'em. 
Now, I'll turn up the TV or whatever.  I could care less if they know I'm home and they're being ignored. 

The jvs are annoying but I have a story that one of my friends told me that is pagan. He was working in his shop at his house, and the jvs came and asked him to talk. He told them that it is honorable that they go to people's house and try to sell their religion. He then proceeded to tell them that he has a different way of belief, and then kindly asked them to leave.

Another story that I have is one with me. They (jvs) came and knocked on my door; so I opened the door wearing women's clothing. When the guy looked up he say a six foot tall bearded lady "don't ask" but anyway he tried to give me a watchtower mag. I told he that I didn't want it and that I didn''t want them to come back and that I didn't have time to argue with them.   

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/7337333.stm


Here is the story of a woman that gave birth, suffered complications and because her 'religion' dictated her thoughts, refused treatment and subsequently died.  I would suffer most things for a child given my status as a TS but I would not die for religion. I am deeply upset because this woman was blinded by JW and could not  nurse her children, and her husband had a cetain 'swagger' about him and little obvious sense of loss before the news media cameras.  >

I wondered where this thread had gone too. Wendy you are correct, all topics can be interesting if we wish to make it be that way.

Quote"Hee, hee, hee." Is someone running out of topics?

was just a pun. Some times I like to utilise a bit of humor. No ill feelings or offence intended towards any one's faith. Every one is entitled to their own faith and beliefs. Even though I might not agree with a certain faith I won't argue with that individual. Well and if you got angry at me give me a head start to get up there in those thar mountains I am 5'3" tall and weigh 125lbs maybe a couple pounds more when wet, "hee, hee, hee."

Yawl have a wonderful day.

Cindy

For reference I have nothing per se against JW or any faith for that matter. My belief is along the lines of do what you will but if you hurt someone you will deal with me and I will care for you but will stop you. To balance the scales a little enjoy this better JW moment.

I was helping a friend on his farm when the JW showed up in their nice suits. We were busy trying to get food in before the frost and did not have any time to talk. My friend told them unless they wanted to help to go away. Much to all of our surprise these JWs took off their suit jackets, rolled up their sleeves and asked where we wanted them. For the rest of the day we talked and harvested. Afterwards we had dinner and were able to have a very interesting conversation. Nobody changed their beliefs and we all learned alot about each other respective beliefs (morman, mennonite, JW, nature and catholics). Probably my best experience with JWs.

->-bleeped-<-boy

That IS cool ->-bleeped-<-boy. Thanks for sharing!

~Simone

Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=12074.msg221677#msg221677 date=1207749784
I was helping a friend on his farm when the JW showed up in their nice suits. We were busy trying to get food in before the frost and did not have any time to talk. My friend told them unless they wanted to help to go away. Much to all of our surprise these JWs took off their suit jackets, rolled up their sleeves and asked where we wanted them. For the rest of the day we talked and harvested. Afterwards we had dinner and were able to have a very interesting conversation. Nobody changed their beliefs and we all learned alot about each other respective beliefs (morman, mennonite, JW, nature and catholics). Probably my best experience with JWs.

This is exactly part of the reason why JWs actually do get converts by going door to door.  Mormons, too.  Their actions often speak louder than their words ever could.  Compared with the way many "typical" Christians behave, I'm not surprised that groups like JWs and Mormons are more effective at converting the uninterested.  They're actually willing to help people in need.  [sarcasm]Couldn't possibly be that they believe all that "love thy neighbor" stuff that Jesus was talking about. [/sarcasm]

Most of the religious people I know are good people.  You might not like JW, but you don't have to worry that you left you bike unlocked either.  I'm not thrilled to be preached at or converted, however 12 years of Catholic School gives me a certain immunity to it.  People should be free to have whatever faith they like, or what works for them - but I'm free not to buy into it also.

Quote from: cindybc on April 08, 2008, 05:02:59 PM
I wondered where this thread had gone too. Wendy you are correct, all topics can be interesting if we wish to make it be that way.

Quote"Hee, hee, hee." Is someone running out of topics?

was just a pun. Some times I like to utilise a bit of humor. No ill feelings or offence intended towards any one's faith. Every one is entitled to their own faith and beliefs. Even though I might not agree with a certain faith I won't argue with that individual. Well and if you got angry at me give me a head start to get up there in those thar mountains I am 5'3" tall and weigh 125lbs maybe a couple pounds more when wet, "hee, hee, hee."

Yawl have a wonderful day.

Cindy

Cindy if you came to my door I would invite you in for a cup of tea.  I would ask you, "What can I do with my hair!"  The JW told me last week that my hair looks like one of the Beatles in the 70's.

Hi Wendy and to be sure I would quite willing to oblige you on the hair styling. I love playing around with hair, if you have it long enough there ar many diferent ways to style it.

I think I would have whaked that JW on the hand with a fly swater if it had been me.

Cindy

We haven't been bothered by Jehovah Witnesses ever since one incident...

It was about five in the evening and they knocked on the door, my dad opened and they did their speech about how they were from the church of whatever, well, without missing a beat my dad replies with "Hi, We're from the Church of Satanic Rights." <.<...Their faces actually lost color and they stormed away.....Havent been back since then...

I hate Jehovah Witnesses.. they dont go away.. and they annoy the hell out of me.. generally they just stand knocking on the door when they can see Im sitting in the living room ignoring them..


This story though Laura made me crack up!

Hi Clueless
I think your dad is a smart person, didn't even resort to violence, like whacking one of them with  a flyswatter huh? "Hee, hee."

Cindy

I have a funny story that involves scaring JW away.  I personally have nothing against them, usually don't have to deal with em, but I have a cruel sense of humor, so I found this humorous.  This was something someone I used to know did with one of his friends.

The person's friend lived in a neighborhood that warned everyone when the JW were coming through.  Well at the time that the call came, the two of them were butchering a side of beef in the garage.  When they heard the JW were coming through, they hauled a bunch of tarps in the living room and put the side of beef on top of it.  They then stripped down naked, and just chopped at the beef, getting themselves covered in blood.  When they heard the doorbell ring, the friend went to the door and answered, the person I knew cutting the beef up with an evil smile on his face.  The guy answering the door still had the butcher's knife in his hand and asked what they wanted rudely.  The JW's promptly ran, and called the cops.

The two counted on this, and pulled the meat and stuff back into the garage, cleaned off, and stored the tarps away, putting them in the washing machine to wash.  They then clothed and went back to butchering the meat when the cops rang the door.  The friend answered, and the cops said some JW reported two people killing a man at the address they were at, to which the friend said "No officer, I mean I'm butchering some beef, but no killing here."  The cops went into the garage to see, noting the neat packages of already cut beef, and the side of beef currently being cut.  The officers just looked at him said, "You did that on purpose didn't you" and promtly started laughing, the whole group.  The cops said, "Next time you pull a stunt like this warn us at least, that scared the crap out of us."


When I found this story out I laughed so hard I almost peed, It was horrible, but funny.  I mean the JW no ill will, but they are sure fun to mess with.