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Started by kraziness, February 08, 2019, 11:12:03 PM

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kraziness

I am writing this right before bed and this is scary for me but here goes nothing ... I am 33 and I have lived a man my whole life cause it was what I was supposed to be.  Not really? Background: my family is strict conservative christian.  I had been locking away a lot of memories because they where not what boys/men are supposed to think.  Recently I played a game and I did something I normally would not do cause its not manly and chose a girl character.  I was happy choosing clothes and choosing pink.  I thought right now, right here I am a girl and it feels nice. Forward a week and memories started suddenly coming back to me from all the way as far back as 5 yo.  The time when I was 5 and did not want my male member because it felt wrong and I wanted to remove it.  The times when I was preteen and trying to tuck my male member.  My best friends all being girls before I went to puberty.  How all my relationships I felt more like a girl than a guy.  And sooo much more.

Nobody I know would understand any of this and most would likely say I will burn in hells fire (which would hurt me).  I have had friends that in that past have said they wished they could kill trans people (which I argued against and lost due to mob of other conservatives).  I feel alone and afraid.  Wishing I had a IRL friend to tell all this to but I dont.  I have a wig and look at the mirror and think "there is no way I can ever look female" and it makes me sad.  I dont like this male body and I never have.  Why it never clicked before I dont know.

I am just scared...I dont know how else to explain it. I know counselors exist but where do I even begin (internet gave me information overload).  What do I do? Where do I find courage? Where can I find friend that can understand all this? 

Help :'(
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@kraziness Dear Kraziness:
     I am so very glad that you have become a member here and this is your very first posting.   I am happy to see that you found the Susan's Place Forums.

    As you post on the forums you will be able to exchange thoughts and comments with others that are experiencing many of the same things that you are.   I expect that you will be getting many members offering their thoughts and suggestions as you continue to post here. 

    This is the right place for you to be to find out what others may have to say that may have been in your circumstances and with your questions and concerns.
    There are a lot of members here that will be able to identify with your situation and as you continue to feel free to share with all of us.

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@kraziness   
Oh, and another thing Kraziness...
Please plan to write a post and tell us more about yourself in the Introductions Forum so that other members will be aware of your arrival... therefore you will be able to share your thoughts with more members here.
     
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Welcome to Susan's Place. Where to start is a pretty common question and it can differ depending on your needs. The transition consist of may steps and often the results are far better than you might think so don't judge yourself until you're better able to see the results. As for where to start, I would suggest a Gender Therapist. If you're unable to find one, Provide your country and a city near you and we may be able to help you find one.

This site is heavily moderator to protect our members so ask any questions you might have. We have all been there so we understand how you feel and you have nothing to fear here. All of us will answer any questions you might have so instead of finding one friend, you have found many. Take it at your own pace when you're ready.
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Janes Groove

Welcome to the site kraziness.  Wow have you ever come to the right place.  ALL of us have been where your are now.  Number one tho is this. You are not alone.  Two.  What you are feeling is completely natural and there is no shame.  Three. You absolutely can still be a Christian and transgender.  There are tons of members of this site who are also Christian.  The Bible has ZERO to say about ->-bleeped-<-. Heck we humans only started studying it recently. Science. 

Where do you start? Spoiler alert: You already have.
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pamelatransuk

Hello Kraziness and welcome to this wonderful website!

I know just how you feel - as you say where do you start? I agree that as already advised, you need to talk to a gender therapist about how you feel and be as open and honest as possible.

Also it only a minority of so-called Christians (sometimes the evangelical or "born again" or sometimes the older members) who have such an anti-reaction to the transgender subject. I am transgender and a Christian and I know that God knows that you and I are trans and that he loves us all.

I wish you success whatever routes you chose to take.

Hugs

Pamela 


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Denise

Kraziness,

   As others have said, you have taken the first step; you're asking questions and you've come to an excellent resource.

   The next step is, as Dena wisely suggested and others will too, try to find a therapist who specializes in Gender Identity issues. Not knowing your financial or location info it's hard to advise on an exact solution.  If funds are tight, most large cities have clinics with pay-what-you-can services including therapy.

   After that - there are as many different paths as there are people who have transitioned already.  All of our paths are very different.  Just look at some of the signatures (use www.susans.com from a web browser to see them) and you'll see everyone's timing is different.  But from what I can tell from the people who have posted here and my T friends (both MTF and FTM) there are some basic similarities with everyone.

Rule number 1: Plan for the worst; hope for the best; reality is typically somewhere in the middle.  If you are prepared for the absolute worst thing to happen you'll feel more at ease knowing you have a plan to deal with it.

Rule number 2: (this DOES NOT apply to immediate family, unfortunately) Nobody cares and if they do they are a nobody.  That is the one sentence my sister drilled into me for more than a year before it sunk in.  I'm starting early on you!

Rule number 3: YOU are in the driver's seat.  YOU can get on and off the transition train when you want to.  NO ONE should push you one way or another.

Rule number 3b: You can not be responsible for other people's emotions.  Your emotions are yours and theirs are theirs.  Some people will be over joyed for you while others may never want to see you again.  WHY?  You are the same person to both but they have different history and views of those around them.  You are NOT responsible for their past, present or future happiness.  Only they are responsible.*

Rule number 4: Mirrors and Pictures LIE!  What you see in the mirror is NOT what other's see.  You see every little thing others do not.  I look in the mirror and I see 90% guy.  I have a good friend who tells me the truth on everything and she sees 95% female. (I'm still doing electrolysis!)

Rule number 5: Cherish the good days and remember them.  I call it banking them.  When you are having a bad day, remember the good days.  I call it "taking a loan from my bank."  After a while, your bank overflows with good days as the bad days go away.  (Trust me, there will be days that are terrible, but the elation on the good days more than makes up for it.

Rule number 6: Ignore all other rules.  These worked for me and they might not be right for you. 

There are a hundred other pieces of advice you may receive/read/hear/... take that advice as suggestions.  We are all different with different backgrounds and support system.

Good luck

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kraziness

Quote from: Dena on February 08, 2019, 11:31:03 PM
Provide your country and a city near you and we may be able to help you find one.

I dont have a ton of money.  I live near orlando Florida USA, I found a site with links to some randoms ones.  Perhaps someone that lives near here might know of a that normally works with gender issues?  Also I found out about the LGBT Center of Central Florida.  Should I go there and ask them for advice too?  should I wait until I can find a counselor?
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I recently joined here because I have decided to stop denying I am a Transwoman any longer.  I did a lot of research as well, trying to determine if I am really transgender or something else.  A youtube video series helped me a lot.  The woman had a boyfriend who transitioned, they broke up later after his transition for other reasons but she realized there were few specialists in the field that were knowledgeable, so she decided to make it her career.  I am not advocating using her specifically.  Some of her video's even ask if they are helpful that people donate towards her college loans, and I am not advocating doing that either.  I did find many of her video's helpful, and this one specifically helped me chose to start HRT soon as a step in learning who I really am and if the HRT will change things for me for the better. 

I hope I am not breaking any policy by posting the video link, they helped me so much that I just want to share and hope they help others understand themselves as they did for me. 

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Monica

You know, I feel like I'm in a similar situation. In my mid 30's my body started changing. And I think that triggered some of the same types of things in me. I hadn't thought about some of this stuff since puberty. At one point, when I was 12, I came literally within inches of cutting my balls off so I could be a girl. I chickened out at the last second, and hadn't thought about it for years.

My parents are VERY religious. We're not christians, we're Jews. But they haven't exactly been tolerant of this kind of thing. Growing up, religious parents make their expectations indelibly clear. My father, for example, took me aside at 11 years old, when I was in the height of it, and he gave me a long speech about how disappointed he would be in me, if it turned out that I was gay. I don't know how much my mother figured out, but at the time, she was vehement that no son of hers would ever be a transexual.

Then this. You know, at middle age, your body changes. I went on all kinds of hormones and steroids to keep my appearance and body to the male expectation. And truth is, I was miserable, and gave up on it. But the damage had been done. I don't really make testerone anymore. So, I started going through girl puberty towards the end of last year. I found, that I really liked it. I liked the changes to my body.

But the whole process has sort of unearthed a lot of these feelings of disgust with how I still look like a man. How I sound like a man. I don't want to be a man anymore. As far as the greater religious context, I've fulfilled my child rearing obligations, and now I just want some peace.

Anyway, I had a hard night last night. Spent hours on the phone with my brother and father, coming clean about some of the things I'm going through. My plans to start HRT, and how I haven't bought a men's piece of clothing in months.

And you know what? After weeks of working myself into a complete panic over how they might react, they both surprised me. They were kind, and accepting of it. My dad's an idiot, and I don't think he quite gets it, but you know... I didn't really expect him to. My brother was great. Other than my wife, he's still my best friend in this world.

My mother? Her? Never, ever going to bring it up until she starts grilling me about it. You know, sometimes, there are people that might surprise you. Others, well... there are people who never change.

I don't know your situation, but the people in your life might be more accepting than you think.

The part of the original post that really stood out to me was the lament about how you don't feel like you'll ever really look like a woman. That also might surprise you. Now, I don't know what you look like, but there are people, some of whom even post here, that were much uglier than you or I as men. But they're smoking hot as women, now. Don't dwell on that.

Do what you need to do in order to be at peace within yourself. Only you know what that is, or how it works.

And don't forget that god loves you, and wants you to shine.

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kraziness

Glad for sharing that I really do hope my parents can be that accepting the day comes to tell them.  I really love them very much and would hate to no longer be able to chat with them.

I would love to be smoking hot but I guess we have to see where my future goes.  I need to find a lot of money to do these some of these changes.  Doubt obama care would treat this XD

ALSO...Denise your advice was amazing too

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transspoonie

Quote from: kraziness on February 09, 2019, 05:01:20 PM
I dont have a ton of money.  I live near orlando Florida USA, I found a site with links to some randoms ones.  Perhaps someone that lives near here might know of a that normally works with gender issues?  Also I found out about the LGBT Center of Central Florida.  Should I go there and ask them for advice too?  should I wait until I can find a counselor?

Hello, Kraziness, and welcome to Susan's!

I also live near Orlando, so maybe I can help a bit. The LGBT Center of Central Florida is a great place to start; I've been there with friends before, and it's a supportive, engaging, identity-affirming place. They can point you in the direction of a low cost/free gender therapist, as well as what low cost/free transitioning services exist in the area. Off the top of my head, I can think of four different Orlando area providers who offer HRT and take most insurance plans; some also offer laser hair reduction and electrolysis.

The reduced costs are usually based on financial need (e.g. "no more than X% higher than the federal poverty level"). Regardless, they should be happy to work with you if you earn "too much" for their cost reduction program, but still can't afford to transition.

If you'd like more advice/information, feel free to private message me. :)





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kraziness

Quote from: transspoonie on February 09, 2019, 08:08:32 PM
Hello, Kraziness, and welcome to Susan's!

I also live near Orlando, so maybe I can help a bit. The LGBT Center of Central Florida is a great place to start; I've been there with friends before, and it's a supportive, engaging, identity-affirming place. They can point you in the direction of a low cost/free gender therapist, as well as what low cost/free transitioning services exist in the area. Off the top of my head, I can think of four different Orlando area providers who offer HRT and take most insurance plans; some also offer laser hair reduction and electrolysis.

The reduced costs are usually based on financial need (e.g. "no more than X% higher than the federal poverty level"). Regardless, they should be happy to work with you if you earn "too much" for their cost reduction program, but still can't afford to transition.

If you'd like more advice/information, feel free to private message me. :)


OMG this give me sooo much hope.  I have gotten really happy about this message.  I only work part time because my plan was/is still to go back to college and finish.  My facial hair is a big fear I was having and the possibility that I may get ... even low cost hair removal make me giddy.

Oh it seems I cant PM anyone or even view profiles :(  (probably have to wait a while longer and post more)
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transspoonie

Well, the Orlando area only has... What, five or so different LGBT scholarship/grant funds? I have no idea if you'd qualify for any of them, but I'll cross my fingers for you.

I sent you a PM with my Discord name; I forgot about the 15 post requirement on here, so hopefully that helps in the meantime. :)





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Hi, I just wanted to add that trans is a spectrum. Where you are on the spectrum and want you do to find comfort within yourself is the journey. You get to choose the speed and to the degree you want to transition.

You can get new friends that are inclusive. Most people other than family do not care. They may glance but they do not care. I look at what other woman to see what they are wearing so they may be doing that when and if you expresses.

There is the power of one. Change one thing every period of time. You pick the period (day, every three days, week ...) and what to try. Changes add up as well as confidence. I was so scared to express and now I do not think anything of it. I was scared to go to the beach, use woman's public rest rooms and the list goes on. Now it is just not a issue.

Start with a gender therapist in your area. I went to a LGBT primary care for intake and from there I was recommended a therapist. You can use Psychology Today to provide a gender therapist list in your area.

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kraziness

yeah your right I really can get new friends... I just hate goodbyes

It still scary but after just a few days of support I am starting to feel a little less so.  I going to try and muster courage to drive by the local LGBT center this coming week.  Apparently there is on is Kissimmee which might be a bit closer but I might drive to the Orlando one none the less.  I know I am going to be terrified I just hope I dont panic cause that would make me go back home.  I feel its silly that I should be this scared because its what I have always wanted when I revise my memories.

Everybody who has shown me love so far THANK YOU!!!  it really mean a lot
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MeTony

Welcome!

Live for you, not anyone else. When the others are gone (friends or family), you are left alone with yourself. That's why you need to love yourself and be true to yourself.

Love yourself, don't settle and try to be someone you are not. I, among many here, has tried that and it almost ended in suicide.

This is not the end of your life, it's the beginning! Embrace it! Find people who support you. Find fellowship.


Tony
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You're scared? Your normal! It was just a little more than two years ago that I discovered the source of my anger and rage. It came one night while reading stories here on Susan's Place. The realization hit suddenly -- it was an epiphany. I cried for a while, but I knew there was only one path I could take which would allow me to live. I was scared to death, and frightened about how this would turn my world upside down. I had no idea where to start, but here I am, happier than I have been in decades, and just 10 days away from GCS. It wasn't easy, but if it is what you need you will find a way, and we will be here to help.

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