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Started by Adrian26, April 29, 2025, 10:28:38 AM

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Adrian26

Quote from: TanyaG on April 30, 2025, 01:00:36 PMThen if you want out and to 'un-f' it, perhaps it's time to question it, accept it's not how it goes and take control of your destiny?
Idk girl. I've always had the kindest of "it don't really matter what we do here. We all gonna end up in a box"
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Quote from: Adrian26 on April 30, 2025, 01:13:24 PMIdk girl. I've always had the kindest of "it don't really matter what we do here. We all gonna end up in a box"

Most surely we do, but it doesn't mean we don't get to enjoy all the stuff in between now and ending up in that box. I'd suggest you've got enough now to take to a therapist and make your life work for you and not leave it in the hands of fate, or your family, neither of which are necessarily giving you the best steer on this one?

Look at it this way, you already decided you are trans and didn't let your family stop you doing that, so why let them have any control over this? You've already done things off your own initiative which say you do think it matters what you do here.

Adrian26

Quote from: TanyaG on April 30, 2025, 01:17:04 PMMost surely we do, but it doesn't mean we don't get to enjoy all the stuff in between now and ending up in that box. I'd suggest you've got enough now to take to a therapist and make your life work for you and not leave it in the hands of fate, or your family, neither of which are necessarily giving you the best steer on this one?

Look at it this way, you already decided you are trans and didn't let your family stop you doing that, so why let them have any control over this? You've already done things off your own initiative which say you do think it matters what you do here.
Yeah. It's just what I'm telling myself as I'm trying to figuring everything out
Love who you love, do what you want, and live life to the fullest. They're gonna talk about you anyways so might as well make their conversation interesting. Live as yourself, not someone everyone else wants you to be.
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Sephirah

Quote from: Adrian26 on April 29, 2025, 10:28:38 AMI apologize in advance if anything is misspelled, I can't really see anything rn. This past weekend I sadly lost my partner. Ad of right now I haven't really registered it or dwelled on it too much. I don't know how to grieve her and begin healing. Was hoping for some advice

Grief is different for everyone, Adrian, and we all deal with it in different ways. I am so, so sorry. If there's anything you need, you know where I am, okay?

I want to say a little something about this, if it's okay:

Quote from: Adrian26 on April 29, 2025, 11:57:52 AMThere ain't no changing what happened and there ain't no use in crying about it.

You're right and you can't change what happened, but you are wrong in there being no use in crying about it. Doesn't matter who you are and how you identify, we all have a pressure release valve for when things get too much. As an ex-military lass I have seen the most stoic and strong willed guys break down in tears when they lost a buddy. Not immediately... there is a kind of unwritten thing that you have to be strong and be there to support others, to not show emotion. And there's a sort of emergency self defence mechanism we all have to try and protect us from feeling hurt. A psychological anaesthetic.

But that doesn't mean it's not there, and that getting it out isn't good for you, Adrian. Even if no one sees it. And sometimes the hardest part about grief is the feeling that we can't express it. Take it from someone who has lost most of their family and a bunch of people important to me. It doesn't get easier. Part of grief is the knowledge that it's okay to process these emotions you don't want to deal with. To feel them, and to express them. There is no shame in it, no... judgement. Loss is hard. Whoever you are. And we all have the same mechanisms to cope with them, however easy they are to access.

Give yourself time, okay? Time to come to terms with it. Time to be okay in being affected with it. And time to find the right moment to let it out. Even if it's just to yourself. It is okay to cry. It's okay to shout, to scream, to rage, to vent. To just release the pressure you feel inside. Even stoic dudes like you are, hon. It's okay.

I believe in you. Hang in there okay? *massive hugs*
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3

Adrian26

Quote from: Sephirah on Yesterday at 02:56:19 PMGrief is different for everyone, Adrian, and we all deal with it in different ways. I am so, so sorry. If there's anything you need, you know where I am, okay?

I want to say a little something about this, if it's okay:

You're right and you can't change what happened, but you are wrong in there being no use in crying about it. Doesn't matter who you are and how you identify, we all have a pressure release valve for when things get too much. As an ex-military lass I have seen the most stoic and strong willed guys break down in tears when they lost a buddy. Not immediately... there is a kind of unwritten thing that you have to be strong and be there to support others, to not show emotion. And there's a sort of emergency self defence mechanism we all have to try and protect us from feeling hurt. A psychological anaesthetic.

But that doesn't mean it's not there, and that getting it out isn't good for you, Adrian. Even if no one sees it. And sometimes the hardest part about grief is the feeling that we can't express it. Take it from someone who has lost most of their family and a bunch of people important to me. It doesn't get easier. Part of grief is the knowledge that it's okay to process these emotions you don't want to deal with. To feel them, and to express them. There is no shame in it, no... judgement. Loss is hard. Whoever you are. And we all have the same mechanisms to cope with them, however easy they are to access.

Give yourself time, okay? Time to come to terms with it. Time to be okay in being affected with it. And time to find the right moment to let it out. Even if it's just to yourself. It is okay to cry. It's okay to shout, to scream, to rage, to vent. To just release the pressure you feel inside. Even stoic dudes like you are, hon. It's okay.

I believe in you. Hang in there okay? *massive hugs*
It's just...it feels like everything is falling apart at the same time. And everyone says that the relationship isn't valid and that she didn't matter enough to be crying over. And then others are saying that the anger isn't good and that I should ignore that part
Love who you love, do what you want, and live life to the fullest. They're gonna talk about you anyways so might as well make their conversation interesting. Live as yourself, not someone everyone else wants you to be.
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Sephirah

Quote from: Adrian26 on Yesterday at 03:09:27 PMIt's just...it feels like everything is falling apart at the same time. And everyone says that the relationship isn't valid and that she didn't matter enough to be crying over. And then others are saying that the anger isn't good and that I should ignore that part

Yeah... forget what other people are saying, okay? They weren't in your relationship. They don't know you, didn't know your girlfriend, and are frankly talking out of the hole better left for bathroom excretions.

The only people who matter, whose feelings matter in all this... is you and your little girl.

Anger is natural. Sadness is natural. What you feel is natural. No one has really any say in this and people who think they do should really know when to shut the hell up. In my humble opinion. Don't judge someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes.
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3

Adrian26

Quote from: Sephirah on Yesterday at 03:13:50 PMYeah... forget what other people are saying, okay? They weren't in your relationship. They don't know you, didn't know your girlfriend, and are frankly talking out of the hole better left for bathroom excretions.

The only people who matter, whose feelings matter in all this... is you and your little girl.

Anger is natural. Sadness is natural. What you feel is natural. No one has really any say in this and people who think they do should really know when to shut the hell up. In my humble opinion. Don't judge someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes.
Ayy dios mio mi hermana loca. You're absolutely correct about that, but it's hard to remember that what I feel matters when it feels like I'm drowning
Love who you love, do what you want, and live life to the fullest. They're gonna talk about you anyways so might as well make their conversation interesting. Live as yourself, not someone everyone else wants you to be.
Te amo mi reina hermosa 4/27/2025 🤍

Sephirah

Quote from: Adrian26 on Yesterday at 03:32:45 PMAyy dios mio mi hermana loca. You're absolutely correct about that, but it's hard to remember that what I feel matters when it feels like I'm drowning

As ex-navy, I know how to swim. I rescued my little bro when he was drowning, I can do the same for you. <3 It will be okay, Adrian. You have people around you who care, and who see you. Hold onto that okay? Like a life ring. You will get through this, both of you. Just hang in there. :)
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3

Adrian26

Quote from: Sephirah on Yesterday at 03:54:40 PMAs ex-navy, I know how to swim. I rescued my little bro when he was drowning, I can do the same for you. <3 It will be okay, Adrian. You have people around you who care, and who see you. Hold onto that okay? Like a life ring. You will get through this, both of you. Just hang in there. :)
Yeah
Love who you love, do what you want, and live life to the fullest. They're gonna talk about you anyways so might as well make their conversation interesting. Live as yourself, not someone everyone else wants you to be.
Te amo mi reina hermosa 4/27/2025 🤍
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TanyaG

I was busy yesterday but I'm back.

Grief isn't something we can avoid, we must go through it, whether we want to or not. Ultimately it's better to experience the emotions that grief brings with it than to deny them. If we deny them, then the emotions we try to suppress will come out in other ways which we cannot control and often will bring with them the sort of experiences we are least equipped to deal with.

Despite this, grief is a process we all navigate in a similar way. The first stage is denial, where we feel numb, and our loss feels unreal. In the next stage, as we begin to experience the emotional and practical effects of our loss, it becomes real and unleashes a flood of emotions including anger.

The next two stages often happen together but include 'bargaining' where we try to swerve the cause of their grief, and low mood, where everything feels pointless. Finally, we move on to accepting what's happened, has happened and weave the story of the person we've lost into the tapestry of our own life.

Something I should underline here is your grief experience is extremely complicated thanks to factors like your family's attitude to emotions, you being trans, their attitude to that and to your relationship, the circumstances of the loss of your partner and you having her child to care for.

This is not a situation we should be fooling around with, full stop. Empathy and understanding yes, answers to questions, yes, we can do that, but you really, really should seek a bereavement therapist. Even with my professional hat on, I would be wary of dealing with this online, but equally, if you can get face to face therapy, I'm certain you can navigate this because you've unpicked your grief enough to get a head start with a therapist.

Adrian26

Looked for a counselor and there's not any reputable ones in the Panhandle that I honestly think I could open up to like that
Love who you love, do what you want, and live life to the fullest. They're gonna talk about you anyways so might as well make their conversation interesting. Live as yourself, not someone everyone else wants you to be.
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Lori Dee

If you can't visit face to face, try calling and see if they can refer you to someone closer to you.

https://www.sanangelocounseling.org/grief-loss-counseling
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Quote from: Lori Dee on Today at 09:00:58 AMIf you can't visit face to face, try calling and see if they can refer you to someone closer to you.

https://www.sanangelocounseling.org/grief-loss-counseling
Hm I'll look into it
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Quote from: Adrian26 on Today at 08:06:20 AMLooked for a counselor and there's not any reputable ones in the Panhandle that I honestly think I could open up to like that

Lori's suggestion is good. If you can't get face to face then second best is online video. It's one of those situations where there's a lot in play and you need someone who can deal with multiple issues. But you know what those issues are and you can do this.
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TanyaG

The only scary thing about therapy for any of us the realisation we should have done it earlier :-)
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Quote from: TanyaG on Today at 09:18:42 AMLori's suggestion is good. If you can't get face to face then second best is online video. It's one of those situations where there's a lot in play and you need someone who can deal with multiple issues. But you know what those issues are and you can do this.
I'm looking into online counseling
Love who you love, do what you want, and live life to the fullest. They're gonna talk about you anyways so might as well make their conversation interesting. Live as yourself, not someone everyone else wants you to be.
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