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cindybc

I find enough sad stories on this board that turns on my waterworks. But this is what I do best is doing my best to support others. So yep, I get my tears and it creates a space of peace after wards. The feelings just go so deep sometimes though.

Cindy
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The_Little_Kid

I actually don't even let my family touch me. (not even my parents) But yeah, similar I guess.

The movie that has had me closest to crying so far was Love Story. (if I remember correctly) It's an old movie from 1970 I think, though the thing that I liked the most about it was the music. It had the most beautiful music ever.

Guess what, I cried today, or at least, I sobbed my brains out. Though I wasn't sad or anything I was just......
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cindybc

Hmmmm, I hear about some folks who don't like to be touched and I was one of those. That was back in the days I didn't trust anyone and getting hugged gave me the creeps.

There was a disturbing reason why I was gun shy around people. I was feeling what they were feeling, and sometimes it wasn't very positive from some folks. There was one other reason outside the empathy that caused me to shy away from some folks that I will not discuss at this time.

But I will admit that after being on HRT for sometime my sensitivities have amplified and now for the first time in my life I have found someone who shows me love, another first since longer than I can remember. She watches over me like a mother duck and I love the intimacy and attention I get from her and she does hug me. I really don't mind getting hugged now. Maybe I have become a lot like my last foster daughter, poor kid couldn't get enough hugs.  She wasn't getting any affection at home to be sure. Maybe it was during the time I had this 9 year old girl under my care that showed me how to trust and love others again.

Anyway, I love getting hugged now.

Cindy
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Jaimey

Quote from: cindybc on March 10, 2008, 04:08:43 AM
Hmmmm, I hear about some folks who don't like to be touched and I was one of those. That was back in the days I didn't trust anyone and getting hugged gave me the creeps.

There was a disturbing reason why I was gun shy around people. I was feeling what they were feeling, and sometimes it wasn't very positive from some folks. There was one other reason outside the empathy that caused me to shy away from some folks that I will not discuss at this time.

But I will admit that after being on HRT for sometime my sensitivities have amplified and now for the first time in my life I have found someone who shows me love, another first since longer than I can remember. She watches over me like a mother duck and I love the intimacy and attention I get from her and she does hug me. I really don't mind getting hugged now. Maybe I have become a lot like my last foster daughter, poor kid couldn't get enough hugs.  She wasn't getting any affection at home to be sure. Maybe it was during the time I had this 9 year old girl under my care that showed me how to trust and love others again.

Anyway, I love getting hugged now.

Cindy

I've gotten more used to it.  I am touchy with my family, but that's just my mom and brother now (I was close to my grandmother before she passed away...for all intents and purposes, she was my mother and my mom is more like a sibling)...and with my brother, well, he's a LOT younger than me, so I held him a lot as a baby.  Otherwise I wouldn't be comfortable with him at all because he's extremely unpredictable (we've been told he has oppositional defiance disorder) and he makes me nervous.  But I've never been touchy with other people.  I think for me, though, it's because I can tell if people are sincere or not...and there's a lot of insincere touching among women.  A lot of insincere "love" spoken among female "friends".  So for me it's usually a trust thing.  It took a lot of work to get used to people and really, I'm still not, but I've observed enough people to know what is "normal" so I know how to act and react. 

Sometimes, you have to cry and sob.  Did it make you feel any better?
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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cindybc

Hi Jaimey The crying and tears can be out of sentiment or sadness. When either one get to be equally deep I am note able to tell them so I just release it as a prayer. But then there is the silly crying, I enjoy it because I never before really let myself feel these feelings before. Tears of deep feelings I still see as a cleansing within. 

As for being hugged by other people, depending on what I feel inside of then I can feel uncomfortable with some but I can also find some that warm inside, I love the warmth. I have only met few people with whom I felt that type of energy

When I get weepy I listen to this song. Imagine energy of every colors  of every escription radiating from the telstar satellite to the surface of the earth, healing the world. May sound kind of silly but those are my feelings.





Cindy
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Stephen

No, I didn't read this entire thread. I was just wandering at what point does some one become an empath?

I am a natural energy vampire. Not all of us are bad. I have a tendency to be able to know when people, particularly friends, need someone around, to be hugged, or to be left alone. Since I only do this when it is very strong, am I just unintentionally taking in their personal energy and interpreting it or am I an empath?
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cindybc

Hi, Stephen, I copied and pasted this response to you from the Metaphysical thread. It was my response to your post. Also wanted to let you know that from what I have learned briefly about your personality, feelings, and sensings, I would think that you may be more an empath then an energy vampire. I already met one of those she was a nasty b**ch, negative as a black hole, and she nearly drained me of my energy. Oddly enough during this stressful time I was able to experience many wonderful visions as well as become more aware of the forces that be around me. I was able to just let her negativity drift by me as I described in the post below. My living there was a temporary arrangement until I could find my own apartment.

There are times we give off very strong fields of energies that other people around can be aware of,  that is why I do my best to maintain an upbeat attitude and radiate positive energy around me, it doesn't take long before you see smiles on peoples faces. I also call that projecting and it has been invaluable gift that was well appreciated during my transitioning.

Before I begin, welcome to Susan's.

Very interesting read. Would you by chance be a student to be Shaman? I learned much of both Shamanism and Wicca some years ago there are some very interesting legends and traditions.  I was born an empath and I am two-spirited so I am not a stranger to knowing about the four earth elements, the movement of the elements of the Universe, and spirituality.  Both faiths have a similarity as far as earth, air, fire and water go, the planetary elements.

The Ojibwa Natives of Ontario call the Sun Father, the Earth Mother, Grandmother Moon and Grandfather Stars. From the Grandfather Stars we came and to the Grandfather Stars so shall we return. I have also discovered that being on HRT may amplify ones sensitivities and perception to the elements and energies around one's self.

When I started transitioning, my heightened sensitivities nearly drove me batty. I couldn't even go out of the apartment from August 2007 when my mate and I moved here to Vancouver, BC. until the end of January 2008.  But that was not without determination and plain forcing myself to do so. I have learned to a greater degree how to use the elements to allow the energies to flow around and through me. It works quite well.

I am also aware when my energy fields go up to the point a lot of people feel it although I don't believe they know what it is as such. Sometimes these energies are extreme but if it is positive energy it affects people around me likewise.  It feels good to affect folks in a positive manner.

Cindy

Posted on: March 24, 2008, 04:33:45 AM
My vision told to White Buffalo Calf Woman

Ok I guess I'll start first. I have been having visions of my standing
at a high place in a mountain, watching this steady stream of people
winding there way through a pass between mountains. These weary
travelers entered a Vally surrounded by sharp craggy mountains. The
valley floor was covered by a lush emerald green forest.

I am holding up a crystal ball that is radiating bright white light.
Wing Walker stands beside me, holding a sword that is of the same bright
white light. What does this mean to you? or not mean? I have had many
other visions and just never had anyone around with who I could consult.

Cindy

This was White Buffalo Calf Woman. interpreting my vision.

Vision reader: white buffalo calf woman. Visions bring us what tomorrow gives.

------------ I have been having visions of my standing at a high place in a mountain,

interpretation: This is where the mountaintop touches the heavens. Many go to mountaintops to gain knowledge and wisdom. The earthly mother yearns to touch the heavenly father.

------------watching this steady stream of people winding their way through a pass between mountains.

Interpretation: To see, is to believe, even as we dream we see what tomorrow will bring. The great streams belongs to mother. It is ever flowing and never ending and steady as her "well of life". This is where all birth and manifestation occur. She gives us the ability to feel with our bodies. As stars in the night shine so does the unity of these lights as they wind around each other from light to light with pure(ness) darkness. The pillars of the pearly gates give us passageway between one realm of our hearts to the other realm of time, together we travel two roads as one journey. The love of the heart is as great as a mountain. Here where eruptions can occur, the law of love overcomes to build great things.

Interpretation: As we fly in our dreams, the ever flowing circle of life find the hearts of the people. They learn to find their way inward and know joy of the everlasting holiness in love.

-----These weary travelers entered a Valley surrounded by sharp craggy mountains.

Interpretation: When a man finds no joy in his life he becomes weary. The steps to inquiring has left him. He becomes the inferior man. But in the embrace a feeling of protection come over him. He looks up and walks upright. As he sees the mountains around him, he knows the journey may be long and arduous. The beauty overwhelms him and he yearns to be the superior man and know God.

-------The valley floor was covered by a lush emerald green forest.

Interpretation: (valley- in the embrace a feeling of protection comes over him). The valley gives shelter during this time (floor). As far as can be seen the house of God shines brightly as we stand united.

-------I am holding up a crystal ball that is radiating bright white light.

Interpretation: Another word for God is I and as so, God holds " the heart that overspills" (crystal) and unifies the kinsmen and relations. Because together they shine the brightness of the Rainbow, the color of all light, white.

--------Paula stands beside me, holding a sword that is of the same bright white light.

Interpretation: She is Paula, a woman who represents the majestic journey of the waiting (patient teacher) loving heart breathes the ebb and flow and stands united with overspilling heart of the ever moving currents. Together they sever ignorance of the Children of light and teach righteousness. For the "feeling joy" is the first step towards this journey. The Journey of the forest, the united " trees of life"; brotherhood.

----What does this mean to you? or not mean? I have had many other visions and just never had anyone -----around with who I could consult. Cindy

This is good you sent this to me. I did not expect to interpret visions, so this was a wonderful delight. You are the dreamer of tomorrows. One of my visions, I saw a multicolored tapestry in rolling hills. Later in life, I understood that this was the Great perfection of all the variety of our kinsmen. It is not always easy to know more than others. It can be lonely at times. Remember God only gives us what we can handle in this life. We must embrace all as divine grace from the Great Ones who provide us with the unseen pureness of our darkness. The place all light is born.

Your devoted servant, white buffalo calf woman and elder crystal person

Cindy
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Rowan_Danielle

Quote from: cindybc on March 11, 2008, 07:56:28 PM
Hi Jaimey The crying and tears can be out of sentiment or sadness. When either one get to be equally deep I am note able to tell them so I just release it as a prayer. But then there is the silly crying, I enjoy it because I never before really let myself feel these feelings before. Tears of deep feelings I still see as a cleansing within. 

As for being hugged by other people, depending on what I feel inside of then I can feel uncomfortable with some but I can also find some that warm inside, I love the warmth. I have only met few people with whom I felt that type of energy

When I get weepy I listen to this song. Imagine energy of every colors  of every escription radiating from the telstar satellite to the surface of the earth, healing the world. May sound kind of silly but those are my feelings.





Cindy

Ah, Telstar and the Coke 'Teach the World to Sing' ad.

At this moment I'm starting to tear up just thinking about the Coke song.  And I only listened to about ten seconds of the video.  (If only the entire world could listen to that song, in their own languages, and believe in the message being presented...)

I think I'm still safe with Telstar though.  It was a favorite when I was younger because it was so upbeat.  I may have to listen to it again though.  I've changed some over the decades.

But a core of empathy has existed ever since I was in the second or third grade and having to learn the words of 'Puff the Magic Dragon.'  It was really embarassing to be a boy in the early 1960s who couldn't sing the song without crying because I LISTENED to the words and empathized with the dragon.  I still can't sing the song, even with the happy ending that Peter, Paul and Mary added a number of years ago.

I've also found that there are some sections of some of my favorite book series that I can't read without tears forming, whether they are tears of joy at a hard won success or tears of saddness at a defeat.  It is an interesting phenomena.
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cindybc

Hi Rowan_Danielle, how much of this world could be healed if they were just to open their heart and allow themselves to feel and heal and send out this energy to enlighten and heals the world. Unfortunately even just during the past five years that I have been in touch with other indigo's and empaths it appears that something is always unleashed into the groups to create confusion. Many last year have just left the room and replaced by babbling idiots.

The gifted ones retreated and remain in obscurity after the media nearly tore them apart with the negativity and lies they used just to popularise their books and movies. But some of us have remained in touch. I was able to invite most of the elder to my group which I am relieved to have accomplished this. Don't get me wrong there are many intelligent gifted youths out there just as there are a good many intelligent youths right here on this group. They certainly are a different breed than what I was accustomed to 8 years ago.

I am truly honored to have met you hon. That is exactly what I have been pursuing, finding those who can feel and are not frightened to share their emotions thoughts and feelings. The Empathic. To explore imagination which is the foundation to exploring the unknown, science and magic blending as one.

Cindy 
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Rowan_Danielle

Quote from: cindybc on May 09, 2008, 05:07:25 PM
Hi Rowan_Danielle, how much of this world could be healed if they were just to open their heart and allow themselves to feel and heal and send out this energy to enlighten and heals the world. Unfortunately even just during the past five years that I have been in touch with other indigo's and empaths it appears that something is always unleashed into the groups to create confusion. Many last year have just left the room and replaced by babbling idiots.

The gifted ones retreated and remain in obscurity after the media nearly tore them apart with the negativity and lies they used just to popularise their books and movies. But some of us have remained in touch. I was able to invite most of the elder to my group which I am relieved to have accomplished this. Don't get me wrong there are many intelligent gifted youths out there just as there are a good many intelligent youths right here on this group. They certainly are a different breed than what I was accustomed to 8 years ago.

I am truly honored to have met you hon. That is exactly what I have been pursuing, finding those who can feel and are not frightened to share their emotions thoughts and feelings. The Empathic. To explore imagination which is the foundation to exploring the unknown, science and magic blending as one.

Cindy 

Cindy:

There is some heavy reasonance here in the highlighted section.  It reminds me of the first filking session I attended at the Westercon that was held in Spokane a few years ago.

We were doing a filk circle, where people got to choose what was being sung.  When it got around to me, I mentioned that we were at a Science Fiction and Fantasy convention and wondered if there were a song that incorporated both.  Someone started a filk song that was based on "Where Have All the Flowers Gone," and went the full circle from magic to science and back to magic again.  The core song is one that Peter, Paul and Mary is also known for, as well as the Kingston Trio.

The 'explore the imagination' phrase carries even more reasonance.  I consider my imagination to be one of the core parts of my being.  Heck, on the latest batch of checks I had printed, I had the printer inscribe the following"

Imagine the future and make it so.

The quote is mine, despite the hints that Star Trek, TNG may be responsible for part of it.  I use it because it feels right and describes how we make the future.

Now, what could that future be like?  And how can we get there?

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cindybc

There will be those who will remain in the lower vibrations and they will be left behind unfortunately. But those who are open of mind and heart will vibrate at a much higher level.

I believe that we build our futures every day to either vibrate into the higher vibrations or the lower. As free will agents we decide for ourselves where we will be in the future. It is crucial to know that we cannot allow those of negative or heavier density vibration energy keep us from moving forward. Every-time we use our imagination we have already set the wheels of future towards manifesting our dreams and desires.   There are many good songs that can set one on a journey never before realised at an earlier time. I find the ones I like best particularly the cutsy songs, you know, the type of stuff girls like. My sister and I were close so we did a lot of stuff together including music. Now Wingwalker has a whole mess of those cutsy songs stored on her PC.  You know, the type that were popular when I was a kid. Oh well maybe I will never grow up. Being grown up is boring anyway. "Hee, hee, hee." ;D

I find though that nature music is best for meditating. I have sensings, seeings and knowings, some PSY abilities but I have also discovered that it is very much taboo to talk to other people about. 

Quote[The 'explore the imagination' phrase carries even more resonance.  I consider my imagination to be one of the core parts of my being.  Heck, on the latest batch of checks I had printed, I had the printer inscribe the following" Imagine the future and make it so.

/quote]

Cindy
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Rowan_Danielle

Quote from: cindybc on May 09, 2008, 06:42:03 PM
There will be those who will remain in the lower vibrations and they will be left behind unfortunately. But those who are open of mind and heart will vibrate at a much higher level.

I believe that we build our futures every day to either vibrate into the higher vibrations or the lower. As free will agents we decide for ourselves where we will be in the future. It is crucial to know that we cannot allow those of negative or heavier density vibration energy keep us from moving forward. Every-time we use our imagination we have already set the wheels of future towards manifesting our dreams and desires.   There are many good songs that can set one on a journey never before realised at an earlier time. I find the ones I like best particularly the cutsy songs, you know, the type of stuff girls like. My sister and I were close so we did a lot of stuff together including music. Now Wingwalker has a whole mess of those cutsy songs stored on her PC.  You know, the type that were popular when I was a kid. Oh well maybe I will never grow up. Being grown up is boring anyway. "Hee, hee, hee." ;D

I find though that nature music is best for meditating. I have sensings, seeings and knowings, some PSY abilities but I have also discovered that it is very much taboo to talk to other people about. 

QuoteThe 'explore the imagination' phrase carries even more resonance.  I consider my imagination to be one of the core parts of my being.  Heck, on the latest batch of checks I had printed, I had the printer inscribe the following" Imagine the future and make it so.


Cindy

Nature music is good.  So is a lot of the New Age stuff by people like Enya, David Arkenstone.

When I want to have music in the background as a way of helping my mind wander, I tend to choose music without words.  It allows me to build mind pictures without the taint of another person's words.

As far as seeds for the imagination, science fiction, fantasy, science fact, role playing and talking with optimists helps.  They all resonate with the positive side of the mind.
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cindybc

QuoteNature music is good.  So is a lot of the New Age stuff by people like Enya, David Arkenstone.

When I want to have music in the background as a way of helping my mind wander, I tend to choose music without words.  It allows me to build mind pictures without the taint of another person's words.

As far as seeds for the imagination, science fiction, fantasy, science fact, role playing and talking with optimists helps.  They all resonate with the positive side of the mind

Imagination, science fiction, fantasy, science fact, role playing and talking with optimists helps, the problem is that there appears to be scarcity of those of those atributes out there. I do have a good friend that I met on Indigo Adults some times back, he is one of the elders. He loves talking about the kind of topics as you have listed above.

It's to bad that most seem to lack the interest in the potential of the infinite potentialities. *When we leave here it is not the end.* It is only the beginning of existing in any number of other potential realities.

Yea music without voices I quite agree with you. I was listening to the theme music they had for the movie  *Titanic,* the music made me feel just as emotional as when I watched the movie. I do love the imagination they had in that movie, especially at the end when the girl is coming down the grand stair case shacking hands with all who were on the Titanic before it sank, then she walks up to her beloved and throws herself at him and embraces him. She never did let go, not even in death. Well I have always been sensitive and a bit of a romantic, both resulting in crying oceans. Well that is one example of a potential other reality.

Who are we to say it isn't true? I really believe that wehn we move onto another parallel reality that it is possible that we will follow closely any number of fantasy we may have had during this reality.

I am kind of weird that way, I love pretty well anything that is called music. I also love anything that's far out, like mysterious, the unknown, the unseen. Well the word weird is certainly not an estranged connotation to me.

Cindy
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Rowan_Danielle

Quote from: cindybc on May 10, 2008, 07:50:55 PM
Imagination, science fiction, fantasy, science fact, role playing and talking with optimists helps, the problem is that there appears to be scarcity of those of those atributes out there. I do have a good friend that I met on Indigo Adults some times back, he is one of the elders. He loves talking about the kind of topics as you have listed above.

It's to bad that most seem to lack the interest in the potential of the infinite potentialities. *When we leave here it is not the end.* It is only the beginning of existing in any number of other potential realities.

Yea music without voices I quite agree with you. I was listening to the theme music they had for the movie  *Titanic,* the music made me feel just as emotional as when I watched the movie. I do love the imagination they had in that movie, especially at the end when the girl is coming down the grand stair case shacking hands with all who were on the Titanic before it sank, then she walks up to her beloved and throws herself at him and embraces him. She never did let go, not even in death. Well I have always been sensitive and a bit of a romantic, both resulting in crying oceans. Well that is one example of a potential other reality.

Who are we to say it isn't true? I really believe that wehn we move onto another parallel reality that it is possible that we will follow closely any number of fantasy we may have had during this reality.

I am kind of weird that way, I love pretty well anything that is called music. I also love anything that's far out, like mysterious, the unknown, the unseen. Well the word weird is certainly not an estranged connotation to me.

Cindy

I seem to recall a couple of quotes by musicians about strangeness and being weird.  They basically cover how the musician first felt when they were called weird and the fact that the artist realized that THEY were normal and the others were weird because they lacked something.

The parallel realities idea was well covered in Heinlein's 'Number of the Beast' where the key people of the story were going from 'ficton' to 'ficton', often seeing their favorite story characters in 'real' life.  THIS world of ours may be someone else's fictional world just as our fictional worlds may be their realities.
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cindybc

Thank you Rowan_Danielle sweets. Hey! Now you has my imagination running wild, but oh yea I have often thought about that, we manifest our future in the next dimension or reality in the infinite potentialities. I taught Wing Walker my partner all about the infinite potentialities. No she wasn't tuned in on any of this stuff before I met her. I took her by the hand and lead her along the cosmic pathways, the many paths in imagination that every now and again can be manifested into reality. "Hee, hee." 

I have a houseful of imaginary medieval and prehistoric beasties like dragons and a pterodactyls, Gertrude is the Keeper of the beasts and loves going out into the neighborhood gulch to chase wingbats, (dust devils).

We also have many other assorted critters who live with us in this same house, a small white furry one who has pink eyes, lives under a rock, and you can only see it's eyes blinking in the darkness. Oh yea, mustn't forget our ghost friend, her name is Cassandra I have known her since I was 9 years old, or least ways that  was when she manifested to me. Well imagination is a wonderful place to visit and sometime a really nice place to get lost in when things here get to hectic. I also see all these little sparklies in the dark and I imagine them to be little fairies. Yea I know I sound like a ten year old girl with a vivid imagination run amok, Wing Walker says, I am, and never stop being who I am. It was fun drawing all that stuff at one time through the years..

My sparkly fairies


Imaginary planet Exterra



Posted on: May 11, 2008, 05:02:51 PM
A spiritual eperience.

What happened on Mt. Shasta.

At this time, late at night, I Am looking out on the ocean and the moon is shining her light on the water, lighting it up beautiful. I feel this is the perfect time to write down my experience on Mt. Shasta to share with others.

I always wanted to go to Mt. Shasta, I actually had a trip planned the first year I arrived in the United States and I had to cancel that. After that I never had a chance to go.

Then I went to California in March to teach some classes, we really wanted to go but the time somehow didn't feel right. I was a bit disappointed but nothing I could do about that.

The moment I got home one of my friends sent me an email about a conference on Mt. Shasta.
They were having a conference and on July 13 it was going to be Prophesy of Love day.
I thought the date was perfect, I arrived in the United States on Friday, July 13, 2000, so it would be my anniversary day as well.

So we planned the trip, everything went perfect, I had the money for the ticket the same week, the money to sign up for the conference and it all came together like it's supposed to happen.
We decided to rent a house on Mt. Shasta and we found that really easy and the price was affordable. So everything was set to go.

About two weeks before we left Adama from Telos started channeling a message through me and I was asked if I would like to visit Telos, the city beneath Shasta.
Of course I wanted that and my friends were invited as well.

I left for California on Wednesday, July 9, and arrived at my friend's house that afternoon. This is where things already started to show. We were with four people, two men, two women, all friends.
One of the men was not able to leave that Thursday morning so we arranged a couple of things and he would be arriving that evening.

So off we went and we had a nice trip with a great view of Mt. Shasta while driving up. We settled in our house and decided we would go up on Mt. Shasta the next day.
Everyone was exited about the invitation to visit Telos of course.

When we arrived on Mt Shasta we needed to go sit down somewhere, I was just following the guidance I was getting and we found a place to sit down and wait. Now one of the men was just awakening spiritually and he really wanted proof of this city and all we had told him about spiritual happenings.

For me this was the sign that we wouldn't be able to visit.

Only with an open heart you can be invited and this was not the right energy for that.
I wasn't disappointed about this, I know I can visit anytime, I don't need to be there in the physical.

But the saying they have that if you go up the mountain, everything that needs to be released will come out, that made sense after all that happened when we started going down the mountain.

The moment we started driving down the energy started to come up for this one man that wanted the proof.

We discussed stopping at panther meadows, the energy from that place felt very good to me and I wanted too spend some time there meditating. My friend Sherry wanted to go down the mountain and get us something to eat so we could stay there as long as we wanted.
The man driving the car did not think that was a good idea, and he didn't want to drive his car up and down the mountain and waste gas, bad for his brakes and all that. Now the drive up the mountain is only 13 miles and panther meadows is a couple of miles down from that. But he refused and we went all the way down to the town Mt. Shasta.

We were supposed to meet up with my friend's daughter there so we got on the phone to find out where to meet.

This is where it went wrong again and another energy came out starting a fight between the man and my friend Sherry.

He dropped both off us women of in the town and both men left in the car. They went to get some groceries and went back to the house while we met the daughter and got something to eat.

After that we drove back with the daughter to our house on Mt Shasta.

Now we arrived there, the men were sitting inside and we were sitting outside for a while. I decided to go in after that and see what the men were up to. The energy was not good and after a couple of hours it reached the top and burst out so to speak. It ended with the man leaving that same night. He returned home.

Which left us without a car, but we were able to get a rental that next morning.

A lot of energies playing out but after this, they started settling down.

The next day we decided to go to the conference, that is to say, the other man and I went, my friend Sherry had other plans and she dropped us off and went her own way.
I always know that no matter what this is the perfect way among friends.

The conference started at 10 and there were speakers all day. I have to admit most of the time I was sort of unconscious and missed a lot of what they were saying.

I only remember two of them completely. The first one a man speaking about the crystal skulls and he was amazing with his knowledge about them. He had worked with crystal skulls for 28 years. The other one was a woman channeling Isis.

Now I have been working with Isis a lot lately, but I am a conscious channel and I am still there when she comes through me. This lady was leaving and let Isis take over her body.

The reason I remember it so well is that I was mesmerized by the words that she spoke.
Everything I have been teaching in my classes, the answers she was giving to questions, it was all the same as the answers I would be giving, even in the same wording.

We didn't get home until almost 12 that night but we had a great day, so we had a drink and went to bed.

The next day we went again, this was the Prophesy of Love day and it started by Jonathan, he was the one who arranged the whole conference, telling us they would go with the flow.

So around 10.30 Jonathan started this whole day with singing his song he wrote called the Prophesy of Love. Now I was just sitting there crying, I don't know why, but the energies were there and I just let the feeling out and went with those feelings.

The moment I did that, Sananda, Kuthumi and my Higher Being came in.
I was told that I, Petra, was going to leave. It was time to bring in my Higher Being.

With Higher Being I mean all of me, my higher self, soul, all my energy bodies, everything in spirit that was still residing outside my physical body.

I agreed and started to leave my body, I was welcomed by Imhotep and I saw myself leaving.
The moment I left, my phone rang, it was my daughter Isis calling me. Now I have to say, I asked later, she was at home with her daddy, he didn't even know that she had called me.
But the days before I was leaving, she asked me a couple of times if I was really coming back, and if I was going to die, she didn't want me to die.

I shut off my phone, but this phone call made me think again about leaving.

At that time I felt like I was going and would not come back.
But I left, I felt like this was the right time and knew that my Higher Being is part of me so would be able to take care of everything in the physical in the right way.

I was watching while my Higher Being was entering my body and saw the energies merging with my physical body. Than I was told I had to return to the physical body as well and merge with my Higher Being.

I didn't expect this but went back and merged. I was told that even though I am maybe a small part, I am part of this energy.

It was a strange feeling going back in my body.  I did not feel like myself anymore. I felt like I was a different being, even though this being felt familiar to me. I am still getting used to it but I know it takes time to completely become one with these energies.

At this time I am trying to recollect all that happened, it seems there are no thoughts, just energy flowing and its coming out of my hands while I am typing this. I wrote everything down last night and I haven't looked at it. This is the difference that I have been feeling after this happened.

Everything flows, I do not think, there are no thoughts. When I am asked a question something will come in my head somehow I say it and than it's gone.

I am completely in the now, I do not think ahead, I do not think about things of yesterday.

I did not even ask what I did, what this all meant for me. All I know is that after I merged I heard the words "This is Ascension".

Inside of me I know this is how the Ascension was for many of the Ascended Masters that are with us today.

When I look at myself, feel my full energy, it feels like I am everywhere, connected to everything. My energy is going up and I can see through all universes up until source. And this is where I am connected to everything around it.

It is giving me a hard time to connect with anything physical, I have to force myself, or somehow create the energy to connect with physical parts.

Everything is flowing out of me in energy and this way I am able to do the things I need to.

It is still hard to explain how it feels, but I need to get back to my story and what happened after all this.

We got back to the house around nine that evening, had a small barbecue and went to bed.
The next day we spent some more time in the area. My friend Sherry had asked me to jump off the waterfall with her and so we went looking for the waterfalls.

Both my friends jumped and I was standing there looking at it. I went by my feeling, and my feeling was such a strong No. I did not feel fear, just this feeling of not to jump.

My friends were telling me to get over my fear, and more of those things. It was a freedom feeling and all that. But my feeling was still no do not jump.

At that moment I realized it was not the jumping that would bring the freedom, it was my decision of not listening to others and completely following my own energy of what I felt.
I have always been someone who would follow the orders, would go along most of the time.
This time was different and this saying came to my head, don't really know how to explain it in English, but it's like if someone you love tells you to jump of the mountain, would you do it, even though you know it would mean death.

I chose not to jump, I am choosing to regain my power. The moment we walked back my friend pointed out an eagle flying over us, to me this meant I made the right choice, I see the eagle as freedom.

So here we are right now, the last couple of days have been a whirlwind of energies and I could not stay home anymore. I took my daughter Isis and we are staying with a friend at the beach.

My friend Sherry and I have felt so much happening these last couple of days and the information that is flowing is so new and amazing that we are working on integrating it.

I know that the last part of my mission here on earth is being integrated and my work is to focus on this at all times.

It is time for me to regain the power I lost, or my higher being lost so long ago when the male took over and the female energies were used to create a world that is not in balance and hasn't been in balance for a long time.
Our window of opportunity is coming up again and I have my work laid out for me at this time.

This has to be finished while I am also working on regaining full power over my physical existence. This to me is the last part of ascension. Where I can transform my physical into the light.
I always call it full ascension, even though bringing in the Higher Being is ascension for many.
Many Masters would ascend during their lifetime, or even during their death. They would not go up into the light until they would physically die.

I know part of our goal here is to become a light being in the 3rd dimension and be able to travel between the 5th dimension and the 3rd dimension to assist others still in the 3rd dimension once the planet earth has ascended completely into the 5th dimension.

So I am working to regain my power, which has nothing to do with control or power over others.
It is the power of my full being creating and manifesting my life.

I know there is another part that is attached to this power and the information about this is coming in soon. For now this is where the energy is leaving so I know it's time to say, thank you for reading this and thank you for being here on this planet with me.

We all have an amazing future ahead of us and this is only the beginning.

Love and Light

A friend.



The sacred Feminine is about to awaken.

Cindy

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greeneyedgirl

Well silly me, late to the ball as always...  Ton's of great messages, and it would be crazy of me to try and respond to them all one by one, so I'll explain...  No, that would take to long, I will sum up...   :laugh:

I too am an empath.  Full on, being of light manifesting a physicality that was consistent with my journey before this body was conceived.  My very last conscious thought while still physical in 1961 was this wouldn't have happened to me if I looked like a guy...  Yeah, well I now how utterly mistaken THAT was!

Anyway, back to empathy, I'm glad Cin mentioned Deanna Troi.  At one point my sister-in-law was fighting me about something, and she's a huge Trek fan, so I got her to take a breath and said:

"Look, you cannot lie to me.  For the purposes of this conversation I AM Deanna Troi, so stop lying to both of us.  I know exactly what you are feeling, and the fear that you're going to get called on your BS, well let's just say you've been called and try and start from the truth?"

She burst into tears and ran out of my room.

Half hour later, much calmer, she came back and the first thing I said was "See how much better it feels not worrying about being caught?  So, what's really going on?"

She hates when I do that.

Me, I have always been full on, even in my early years, empathic.  Sometimes painfully so.  Be you two feet, or thousands of miles away, I can feel what people are feeling as easily as my own.  Early on it was disconcerting to say the least.  I spent most of my time in the closet (real physical one) keeping the world out.  Either that, or deep in the woods, or out on the lake, away from others, just being connected to the world instead of humans... 

I am an Ascended being, back here for reasons I could go into, but shant in this, my intro message.  Stargate Fans, think of Daniel after "Threads" and that would be me.  I ascended many, many, many years ago as a serious Buddhist meditating on the Tao.  Ascended, spent lifetimes working there, helping, healing, and so forth, but started coming back here in 1890.  I've been working on me, on finding things I lost in my first Ascension.

Cin, you can charge satellites to shower earth with light, love, or healing.  You go right on doing that girl, Earth needs all the healing it can get.  You are not the only one who "spends energy" on healing the whole world, I'm a Reiki Master/Teacher and I will quite often sit on the moon sending healing energy to the whole planet and everything/everyone on it.  You might want to give some thought to getting attuned and trained in Reiki to add to what you do already.  I was a light worker for years before I came to Reiki, I've only grown since then.  It works well with everything else I've been doing for years and opened me up to things I knew of, but didn't think of doing until then.  Very much worth the time, effort and the small amount of money it takes.  Plus, the average person is becoming very aware of Reiki and it's an accepted and embraced form of light work.  So much so that hospitals are paying Reiki practitioners to be on staff there.

Anyway, back to empathy, it's nice to know I'm not quite so alone here.  Like I say, I too am an empath, so y'all are not alone.

Namaste,

Sam

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Ell

yeah, there's lots of empathy here, unless the conversation is about cd's, or those who have trouble passing, and then, not so much.
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vanna

Quote from: cindybc on September 08, 2007, 07:07:16 AM
Hi, 

The heart and soul of an empath.   

If you are an empath, yes, you certainly can and do pick up vibes from other people. Sometimes  you can tell if a person is in the darkness or the light. Usually you will find that most empaths keep a low profile, they don't seek attention and would prefer not to get it unless it is for a positive reason.

Feelers of vibes and emotions we definitely are and you will find empaths in many positions as caregivers, often for the chronically ill and less fortunate.  We are often nurses and aides, doctors, paramedics, rescue squad members, Coast Guard (especially rescue swimmers), healers, teachers, and in many other service occupations or careers.  We feel the pain of the world around us and we need to help soothe it.

Yes I quite agree that for a lightworker in order to shine their light to those that will accept it, you will find them working in the dark places. One needs to know the darkness in order to trully appreciate and know the light. I do believe that for those of the heart that truly care for an other then at the very least they are Earth Angels.

Love
Cynthia


A lovely post,

something alot of people wouldnt admit being but i'd say a curse in more ways until your in a postition to help others....countless nights of crying over other peoples loss,pain and frustration for not being able to do any damm thing about it.

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cindybc

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Cindy

Posted on: July 24, 2008, 06:04:18 PM
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Re: Empathy

Post by Cynthia Today Sept. 23/2008 

In my earlier years I was not aware nor did I know what empathy was. Yes the sensitivities were there, but I never identified my sensitivities as being different from what anyone else experiences, but on the other hand I was well aware that I was different from most others, just didn't know in what manner . But it was these very sensitivities that alienated me for many years from having any type of meaningful relationship or friendship with any other persons.

Sensing other peoples feelings often caused me to go into depressions. It hasn't been until relatively recent years that I learned about the phenomenon of empathy.

So with all of this going on, my thinking process has become more and more complex. I guess to deal with the problem I unconsciously started being able to think about many things at the same time (i.e. talking to my friends while working on another project and thinking about problems as well as the next day, the day before, constantly analyzing things in my mind etc.) for awhile now.

I haven't been helping people who come to me with problems, well least ways I will engage my partner to screen them when I feel that their reasons may be questionable.

Unfortunately there are many people who seek an easy answer with little effort...or have a negative reaction to telling them the truth without sugar coating it.

There are many hazards out there to the unwary empath. As an empath there are times where we want to think the best of another, and this can be hazardous to us.

And this all used to be quite chaotic and now is just like anything else. As a result the way I talk is, well...sometimes not understandable... like my brain is going faster than my mouth and I'll leave words out, or go back and forth from topic to topic, getting at what I was going to say as fast as I can while still analyzing what they just said.

So the question is, "Is this good or bad?"

Not really. Once we know what type of internal processor we have that drives us we learn rather quickly and adeptly how to utilise these characteristics. I also found empathy to be an asset on many different occasions through the years I worked as a social worker.

The grounding still helps when I get a chance but this new way of thinking seems to prolong the stress and that built-up anxiety feeling. I still, for some reason, try to get deeper and deeper into what they are saying (not with question, mostly just analyzing). I know every time I'll catch something new I didn't see before helping me for next time but then go back and try again. Dealing with people is easier, but also my patience is getting less and less, with ignorant comments people make...well, not really ignorant. Just someone trying to one up you with their attitude...I've noticed too when people do that now...I don't even have to be saying anything.

Grounding and shielding can be important to those who wish to remain stable through the course of the day. There are many different methods of doing so. One does not have to follow any particular method, just use your own. I do my grounding just prior to saying my morning prayers first thing upon waking up.

Cindy


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Fox

Ive known a couple of different empaths who have used their abilities both positively and negatively. I think I was born was the gift for empathy I know i was highly emotional as a i child but thats about all i can rember in that regard my long term memory isn't to good. However I severly damged my own empathic abilites in my teenage years. Ill not go into huge length but I suffered a signifigant amount of hazing at the the private all boys boarding high school i attended years ago. As a result to protect myself I developed iron willed angry control to the point that I couldn't even lose my temper if i wanted to. As a side effect of this I shut off all of my emotions behind fields and fields of walls. On top of my own self mental conditoning I now also strongly suspect that the years I was on ritilin and then dexadrine for ADHD had a strong effect on my overall emotional state negatively as well since I was already starting to experince some emotional dulling in middle school. I lost all desire in life and became completely apathetic except the few times I found release during role playing games. I have spent the last 8 or so years of my life using various different methods from meditation to estrogen to reclaim those emotions and tear down those walls. for years I just wanted to get it over with to find someone who could litteraly tear down my walls by force with empathetic ability but I never found anyone willing or strong enough (I build very thick walls). Although I suppresed my empathitic abilities completely from myself i find they still had an influence on me in a negative way because they left me very vunerable to hostile empaths. I have always believed that people are deserving of my trust untill they disprove this and it takes alot to lose my trust. so i have been taken advantage of a few times over the years by powerfully charismatic people. My empathy ever so often kicks in for small doeses then quickly dies back down. The only ability I have control over is energy manipulation is various aspects. I can channel it from myself into others or objects and I can drain if i want to but i never choose to actively drain people i tend to get plenty from my surrounding enviroment and tons from the moon of which I identify most strongly with. To my dismay though I have been told by people that if i get extermly sleep deprived or weakened I can lose control and my body will drain whatever or whoever is close. I can feel but not see energy ive never had any form of sight to my anoyance but I can see the color of my own aura and I have been backed on this by many others my aura is a burning blue flame. Another of my talents is energy conversion I identify 3 types of energy in the body spiritual mental and physical in order for my body to get tired i must become low in two of them at the same time this can cause me alot of problems with insomnia. I can drain spirtual energy from my surroundings and convert it to physical and go a long time without sleep if I choose to but i can still only do this to a point then i crash for many hours. Curently I have managed to get back alot of my emotional stae and am alot happier in that regard but i have not regained my empathy very strongly I may have locked it off permenatly. I used ot never cry at all and now I can watch a sad anime and be in tears at the end its a new experince for me Im very not used to identifying emotions other than anger. I crave social contact but unfortunaly lead a very low anti-social life and when I do try to socalize with people many of my ADHD traits irritate people strongly. 
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