Recently someone online asked me this:

QuoteI have a question and I don't want to seem rude but...

Why not change your mind to fit your body? Wouldn't that be a bit more socially easier...noone knows you have a female mind then.

How do you know you have a females mind? I mean...what's the diff.?

I told this person this:

QuoteI dont change my mind, because I AM my mind.

Your body is just a vessel. If you were able to take out your brain and put it in another persons body, you would no longer be in your body, because your body is nothing more that your visual identity. Your sense of you, your self awareness all comes from your brain.

Changing how I think is actually very disastrous. A few renegade therapists as well as churches claim to "cure" transsexuality and homosexuality with special group sessions and camps. What those camps do basically brainwashes them and ridicules them for how they feel until they are "scared straight" They psychologically traumatize them until they think they are straight and not trans and then live on in unspeakable denial and internal suffering.

That is why I will not change my mind. Honestly I tried to act and think like a boy is supposed to. I tried up until I snapped at age 18. I can't because I am not.

What would you of said?
What do you think about what I said?

I agree. Its a logical response.


I wish my mom were smart enough to get those facts, or not scapegoat every other thing and blame it on that.

"Its the new meds you're on, isn't it?"
"No mom... LISTEN. That is not why I'm depressed, its the OTHER THING I told you about."
"Well... When did you start taking the meds?/you're acting just like you used to when you crashed from the Ritalyn!"
"Mom... I'm not on a stimulant, its a completely different medication!"
"I bet you its close to it-"
"No mom... And if you (effing) listened to me at ALL, you'd know why I was depressed."


Then she blamed it on the meds once again when I begged her if she could help me find a specialist to just TALK to. She has no idea I've been on hormones, and I've acted "normally" to her for the "week before" ADHD medication. She's SO DUMB. I don't get it... I haven't even tried to hide my developing breasts. I also mentioned how my metabolism magically slowed down, and how thankful I was for not having to eat 12 times a day.

... I hate my life...

I spent 47 years trying to make my mind fit my body.  It didn't work...

Jay

I am changing my mind to fit my body.  I decided that forcing myself to be a miserable drunken coke addict wasn't all that good for me so I'm allowing my body to fit my mind     isn't that a wonderful change?

Sides, do you really want to deal with that loud violent jerk?

I think you summed up that one pretty well Gracie. 

Changing your mind changes who you are.  The transgender and gay ministries through churches are often not friendly, and you made your point very clear.  There are some exceptions, but the risk is not often worth the potential benefit. 

As for the diff between a boy's mind and a girl's-- I've always found that really hard to explain to people.  It's more of how I feel about myself, whether I self identify as a girl or not, regardless of physical sex. 

Anyway, good job, Gracie! 

I never had that question, but i can imagine it. I agree totally... while id have liked to change my mind, i couldnt. so its making the best of    a bad situation....

This really isnt something that canbe understood unless one has something that makes them the same way, be that  gay, trans, etc
R >

Simple answer really - It doesn't work.

true, but tards dont understand that....

hence the explainy bit...
R >

The one's with questions like this I guess also believe that any GID or gender related problem could be corrected or eliminated and be normal again in their world... I just love it when people think they have answers to everything...
You handled the situation quite well Gracie, good for you !

gina

Very wise words.

Now i know what to answer, the few times i get this asked. Thanks!

Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 15, 2008, 10:55:15 PM
Recently someone online asked me this:

Quote
How do you know you have a females mind? I mean...what's the diff.?

Which is why I avoid saying "I'm a woman inside" to anyone, as to me that's just more justification and apologizing for what we've done, AND it opens the door for someone to ask questions just like that.

I do like your explanation though!

~Kate~

About the only way I know to change my mind about this is to get a lobotomy.

Quote from: Lisbeth on May 16, 2008, 12:34:17 PM
About the only way I know to change my mind about this is to get a lobotomy.

Its why I've had the wish aliens could abduct me some night and explain exactly what my brain meant to me, after taking each piece out, and then placing them back in.

hi.... to that i reply why dont you just hear us.   instead of us complying to you  & what you want .you dont understand us .so as i would say now back off. any way how do i change my mind its wired  as female as well as male   he he   . oh dear   now what do i do.    oh too late i am a women now , oh what went wrong there ....oh  just me  so i live as a women ......next thing .....some of the church.s .....its just the same i get from a good few i am meeting with one group now i get . we will pray for you to be healed ,, to be changed back . not on your life
umm back to what i am .   me both male & female ,,,,why be cause .....YOU .... can not accept me for who i am .  oh i do not conform to there thinking oh .. i must have got that wrong what from the age of 10 yea......i think i know who i am now at 60 years of age , well may be not .   so i am a nut case yea &  i love it ....what i am trying to do is say will you just accept us for who we are ..... just a thought .....as you know i am making light of this .  other wise i would be a nut case.... hey you all out there that have problems in the churchs  just please dont let them get to you .  i know how they think.   the thing is its not based on truth  so take care . there are some neat people in the churchs & they do just accept me for who i am they are so neat we have to find them . so dont give up i did for a while i said bu,,**##.... er    them i got sick of the attitude that was shown . now i see some are not so hard & fast . so i think there is hope . will see ill let you know how i go,,,,,,,..... noeleena......

If I could change my mind and not want to transition I would. Why? It would be a lot easier on my kid, wife, job, life, friends, career.

I have to die...like take myself out of the picture. In societies eyes I become somebody else. This other person they knew to exist is gone.

What people fail to understand is there is no changing the mind. You can't change who you are. There simply is no other choice. I wished there was. I'd take it.

I guess I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

Quote from: Kate on May 16, 2008, 10:22:29 AM

Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 15, 2008, 10:55:15 PM
Recently someone online asked me this:

Quote
How do you know you have a females mind? I mean...what's the diff.?

Which is why I avoid saying "I'm a woman inside" to anyone, as to me that's just more justification and apologizing for what we've done, AND it opens the door for someone to ask questions just like that.

I do like your explanation though!

~Kate~

Yeah, just in general I don't like saying I'm a "woman trapped in a mans body" or "I believe im a woman" or "I feel like a girl inside" or whatever. I say "I am a woman, I just have a birth defect."

Hi Gracie I believe you have pretty well summed it up for me.

QuoteI say "I am a woman, I just have a birth defect."

I have sat a few times thinking about what would happen if I were forced to go back, that thought alone left me shivering in fear. I just don't believe it would be possible after already having lived full time as me, a woman for 8 years. I am happy with who I am, I might be just a small woman but I have left many foot prints behind me.

Cindy

Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 18, 2008, 08:34:28 PM
I say "I am a woman, I just have a birth defect."

I still have trouble saying that. My body has been SO good to me, I just can't bring myself to call it a "defect." It's beautiful, even if it is... was... male. Sorta, lol.

~Kate~

Mreow.

My insurance doesn't cover pre-existing mental conditions, but they do cover plastic surgery.

So, it'd be cheaper to alter the body than get someone to work on my brain, wouldn't it?












Just kidding:-p

Hi Kate, I feel the same way about my body, at 62 and no wrinkles full breasts like a teen-ager, even down there thing looks normal the estrogen has done some wonderful work on this old frame.

Cindy