Quote from: Shades O'Grey on June 01, 2008, 01:34:20 PM
Veetje, and Ken/Kendra, very nice pictures, both of you, no matter what others have said.

yeah, you are both pretty...you suck.   

whoa.

Quote from: Nero on June 01, 2008, 05:36:53 PM
whoa.

LOL, androgyne cat fights, look out 

Z

Kendra if I saw you on the street I would not see anything but a female. It sounds to me
you are SO comfortable with yourself and you should be... you look great. With your skin I'd pass
on the makeup too. Good for you.

Amanda

I think that you have a very feminine face/look   

Whatever plans you have to "pass" should be easy at this point 

You look stunning.

Quote from: Laura Eva B on May 31, 2008, 09:36:11 PM
you need to lose maybe 60+ pounds to look really good as a woman

If this is true, then I guess my wife wouldn't pass as a woman. I'm 6'1" and 190 pounds. She's 5'1" and outweighs me.

Weight alone is not the issue for passing. However, weight distribution can be, it seems.

Sorry .... I'm not bitching !

US is the most obese country in the world.

UK is the most obese country in Europe.

Obesity = ill health / type 2 diabetes / coronary problems / shortened life expectation / etc .....

I struggle and work hard to stay 133 pounds, BMI <21, US size 8.

It helps me look good !

And sorry Kendra, yes I would benefit from teeth whitening, but hey I'm around 50, pass absolutely, have five cute guys all least 10 years younger than me who are on my repeat date list ....

And while the guys are attracted to my face, smile, and personality, I feel its my body that makes me so attractive to them ?

Weight isn't per-se an issue in passing, it can do wonders for face and legs, but if you want to look an attractive woman, wear fashion clothes, pull guys, you need to be slim ....

Laura x

Quote from: Shades O'Grey on June 02, 2008, 11:19:57 AM

Quote from: Laura Eva B on May 31, 2008, 09:36:11 PM
you need to lose maybe 60+ pounds to look really good as a woman

If this is true, then I guess my wife wouldn't pass as a woman. I'm 6'1" and 190 pounds. She's 5'1" and outweighs me.

Weight alone is not the issue for passing. However, weight distribution can be, it seems.

Androgynes aren't necessarily trying to pass as either gender. Although, some of us might not complain if we did...

In addition, women and men come in all different sizes. I've dated big women, who were constantly dieting, and they were never going to be a size 2 no matter what. Bone size and muscle mass play a part  in all our sizes.

Z

Veetje, you're gonna do great!!!

I dont want to pass as a female...I wanna pass as androgyne/transgender, thats a difference ^^

Quote from: Veetje on June 04, 2008, 03:52:21 AM

I dont want to pass as a female...I wanna pass as androgyne/transgender, thats a difference ^^

I hear you there Veetje.

I apologize for any rudness to you Laura. You look good and are lucky to have so many men chasing you. It must be your dream come true.



Your doing a nice Veetje I think.

Kendra,
I'm a bigger person too... You're an inspiration You're beautiful.

Quote from: Veetje on June 04, 2008, 03:52:21 AM
I dont want to pass as a female...I wanna pass as androgyne/transgender, thats a difference ^^

that clears that up, i wouldn't say there's much that hormones would do for you, but i don't know that much on the topic and i'm a little biased (i'm too scarred of hormones to even take the contraceptive pill) maybe electrolisis on the facial hair is a better option.

You have a really interesting look, where are you from, the only person i can think of who looks anywhere near as interesting and exotic as you is half malasian, quater affrican, quater european.

I'd actually go fo a bit LESS plucking on the eyebrows, i think women (and men) with dark eyebrows are really sexy, you look like you already pluck a bit. How dark and full you could get away with on the eyebrows depends a bit on where you're from, the extreeme close up and particular lighting make it a bit hard to tell, maybe don't let it grow out to a full Frida Kahlo but let it be a bit wilder rather than over-pluc and rick a bit of an unnatural drag-queen camp kinda look. But again, maybe i'm odd...

Maybe try to make your hair a bit fuller somehow, i don't have any tips on that myself though... i'm trying to work out how to stop my hair looking so feminine.

If you want androgynous rather than woman maybe go for a bit of a goth look in your makeup, something that if you don't look female looks like a hot feminine guy not an unsuccessful attempt to "pass". Maybe a bit of a Brian Molko (circa. 1998, singer from Placebo) look. The sort of thing i like is where i don't know (or care) it's gender but i know it's beautiful... then run into a bus stiop sign staring.

and with the teeth on Laura... i don't know who on earth decided teeth should be white? they should be ivory colourred, cos after all that's what they are. But i like my coffee colourred teeth myself.