Quote from: Jaimey on June 24, 2008, 07:46:24 PM
That's it.  I feel bad about it though, like I'm a bad person because of it.  But we'll just blame it on the awful people that I grew up around.  In many ways, I'm still a child trying to earn approval...kind of ticks me off, really.

I could easily love anyone, but I couldn't always deal with the consequences.

O, Jaimey, we are all a mixture of a lot of experience, not all of it positive, and a lot of likes and dislikes. I really don't see any need to blame anything on anyone.

Knowing that you may well not be able to "deal with the consequences" is actually a very good thing. You know, and are thus not likely to badly hurt or disappoint someone by simply 'hoping' you can bear the consequences of a relationship with them might bring with it.

I wish more of us could be that way. It'd prolly take away a good bit of pain from the world. "Know thyself" is a very wise suggestion from a fellow who apparently had a lot of prejudices and knew how to upset folk as well.

I admire your ability to know yourself and be open about what you know.

Hugs,

Nichole

Would you date someone who's gender is opposite their sex? Yeah. My gender's at least 50% opposite my sex. But I prefer to think my body is fairly androgynous, too.

Would you date someone who decided to take hormones and/or have surgery? Definite yes on the hormones, probably on the surgery--it wouldn't be a deal-breaker but I've never seen anyone body post-surgery, so I may be less attracted to it. I'm pretty much attracted to all body types, including the obese and the emaciated, but there are some I like better.

Could you love someone like this? Umm, duh. I already do--my best friend. I also find him attractive, but shhh! Don't tell anyone about that!


For those who are bi -

Your feelings on dating an ftm? Hot. Really, really hot. Know any my age and available? j/k and I hope saying that's not against rules.

And your feelings on dating an mtf? Also hot. Probably really, really hot. See, I was reading a discussion on another forum where the participants decided that you're either attracted to people who're the average of what you're used to or people who're exotic. MTF manages to combine two things I really like and am familiar with in an exotic way. Takes a second to adjust to it, but then we're cooking with fire. FTM doesn't really have that adjustment pause for me.

But, really, it's more about love than anything else. That's what's important to me and what I'm looking for. A lot of it has to do with personality, so of course there're plenty of transindividuals who don't fit my personality, but being openly transsexual is an attracting factor because of (a) the combination of different sexual/gender traits which sort of corresponds to androgyny, (b) the bravery and resilience of the person to take control of a bad situation, and (c) the unusualness/interest. I guess it's not fair to the less eye-catching majority, but they can find peacock feathers of their own!

I'm sexually attracted to women physically. I don't think it matters to me if they are transexual or not.

The stuff that will get me is the physical stuff. If my partner was a FtM and changed on the job as it were, I think I might lose my attraction for them. I don't know where the tipping point would be but I think it is there. We could still be the best of companions though. I would probably also be ok being with a pre-op MtF, depends on the person.

I've meet men that I have found attractive as they had this really feminine quality about them. I've also been attracted to some really staunch lesbians. I guess I like people a bit gender queer.

Quote from: Nichole on June 24, 2008, 10:16:53 PM
Knowing that you may well not be able to "deal with the consequences" is actually a very good thing. You know, and are thus not likely to badly hurt or disappoint someone by simply 'hoping' you can bear the consequences of a relationship with them might bring with it.

I'm more afraid of hurting someone else than I am of being hurt.  It makes me sad to think that I've hurt someone.  You all are so sweet.  I was prepared for the worse (well, not from everyone, of course, but I was sure at least one or two people would be offended...).  That makes me feel better...

Quote from: Lisbeth on June 25, 2008, 08:42:50 AM

Quote from: Jaimey on June 24, 2008, 09:58:18 PM

QuoteAnd you've got balls

I've got balls?  *checks*    Those are certainly new!!!

I had balls, and then my croquet set got left behind.

omg...if I'd been drinking anything, my computer would be a mess...

I'm not an androgyne, but whatever... I'd like to add my 2 cents as well!

I'm mtf but I'd date an ftm I believe... Maybe an Mtf. Who knows?

It really all depends on who they are...

I'm attracted to females who are look less fem than I feel - if they are more fem than i feel I just spend the time I am with them wishing I was more like them.  I have some male friends who r fairly fem that i have been  slightly attracted to but i would only pursue a relationship with a female body (TS or not) or a body that was not clearly just male or female.  but personality is way more important than looks.  I'd probably be able to fall in love with a femine male as long as the body wasn't overly manly

Would I date a transsexual?
I'm married to one.

I'll answer this hypothetically, since I'm happily married.

Yes, I would date a transsexual.

Being bi, the sex of a potential lover doesn't matter that much to me. Is the person kind? Is the person loving? That's what matters.

Physical appearance doesn't matter to be.  If I were looking someone to be with, I would prefer them to be female.  But it's really the personality that I am attracted to.  If a guy had all the qualities I find admirable, I would have no hesitation in choosing him over someone more feminine.

hmm....  i think i figured myself out and qualify as androgyne.  sex:female gender:male presentation:masculine.  but theres more... idk.  genderfuid escribes it i think. >_>  anyways....

would i date a TS.  yes.  a MTF?  probably.  im usually not too much in to very feminine people.  idk.  i dont mind the body, but i just dont click with the uber feminines.  preop?  sure, why not?  post?  sure...?  lol not tha big of a deal either way.

a FTM?  most def.  hawties IMO. (they have the cute factor)   i tend towards the more masculine acting.  preop chest?  sure.  post op chest?  also sure.  haha  bottom surgury... depends.  im realy not a fan of the phallo, but if i liked you, ofcourse i could get past it.

androgynes?  also yes.  lol  im just not that picky about body.  if i like you, i like you.

I would absolutely date a transsexual.  I am drawn to the personality, the interior.  The rest is all a happy. whatever it may be situation.

I probably would have no trouble dating another TS or Androgyne, but it would be pretty hard on us both having to deal with two sets of gender-identity issues :O

I'd probably be more drawn towards an FtM whether pre or post OP, but it all really depends. I know I'll always be attracted to someone, who regardless of external or internal gender, expresses masculine traits or behaviors though.

Quote from: Phate on August 13, 2008, 11:51:03 PM
I probably would have no trouble dating another TS or Androgyne, but it would be pretty hard on us both having to deal with two sets of gender-identity issues :O

I'd probably be more drawn towards an FtM whether pre or post OP, but it all really depends. I know I'll always be attracted to someone, who regardless of external or internal gender, expresses masculine traits or behaviors though.

So, mostly masculine individuals? that's cool.

i just like people dont matter what sort of people i like em if there intersting and have a kind nature that will do for me. so there gender would not stop me from dating them. love can be found in the most intersting places ive found.

Quote from: Nero on August 13, 2008, 11:58:07 PM

Quote from: Phate on August 13, 2008, 11:51:03 PM
I probably would have no trouble dating another TS or Androgyne, but it would be pretty hard on us both having to deal with two sets of gender-identity issues :O

I'd probably be more drawn towards an FtM whether pre or post OP, but it all really depends. I know I'll always be attracted to someone, who regardless of external or internal gender, expresses masculine traits or behaviors though.

So, mostly masculine individuals? that's cool.

Mostly, yeah, or else people who act more 'in the middle'.

Although I am not completely sure of who I am yet (probably a straight male with some sort of gender dysphoria) and I am in a very fulfilling relationship with a woman right now, I would love to date an MtF at any stage of transition as long as I found her attractive (hypothetically of course). In fact, I might even prefer that to a GG as far as pure sexual arousal goes. I've never ruled out guys and the same goes for FtM, but I've yet to find one male I was attracted to either physically or mentally.

Honestly, social constraints really don't bother me too much. I'm sure I would struggle, especially with my shyness and insecurities, but I think I could manage. I'm sort of a hopeless romantic I suppose. Even though I have my dreams of a normal family etc, I am pretty sure I would be more than willing to sacrifice those if I found someone special and that was the only way to have them. I think dreams are good, but you can't be too disappointed when your life doesn't turn out exactly like you planned when you were 12.

Are they going to put out?  Make me breakfast in the morning?  Forget my name the next day?  OK.

Quote from: tekla on August 15, 2008, 11:07:22 PM
Are they going to put out?  Make me breakfast in the morning?  Forget my name the next day?  OK.

*Fries up a batch of eggs, sausage and bacon.*

Sorry...uhm..what was your name? *scratches head* Te...tek...something..?

Quote from: Nero on June 23, 2008, 07:01:05 PM
Would you date someone who's gender is opposite their sex?

Would you date someone who decided to take hormones and/or have surgery?

Could you love someone like this?

Yes to all three, with no hesitation.

Quote from: Nero on June 23, 2008, 07:01:05 PM
For those who like men (or male bodies) -

Your feelings about dating an ftm?

And your feelings about dating an mtf?

I've met some very attractive trans guys.   Although not *un*attracted, I'm less attracted to women and so attraction to a trans woman would be less likely.

Question is, would a trans person necessarily want to date a 3rd-gendered individual?  If all a guy wants to do is settle down and live the  Mr. Joe Average life he should have had in the first place, would he want to associate with a half-pint of half-n-half like moi?

Quote from: Lokaeign on August 17, 2008, 07:12:11 AM
Question is, would a trans person necessarily want to date a 3rd-gendered individual?  If all a guy wants to do is settle down and live the  Mr. Joe Average life he should have had in the first place, would he want to associate with a half-pint of half-n-half like moi?

Some of us would.