O.K. Now, I must say that latley I have been a bit confused on what some consider a transsexual. I am a FtM going through transition. I have never considered myself a lesbian. I have always felt as though I was a boy, and therefore the only comfortable way to be with a girl was to be a boy. I don't intend to offend any one who differs in opinion or sexual orientation, I guess I just was not aware of the broad spectrum of the definition of a trassexual. Remember, I am only writing this out of confusion, not judgment.

                                                Marco 

Hey there Marco.

Simply put your gender has nothing to do with your sexual attraction to the same or opposite sex.  A FtM IS a male, and a MtF IS a female, therefor:

A FtM who is attracted to women is Hetro, attracted to men is Gay.

A MtF who is attracted to men is hetro, attracted to women is Lesbian.

That may be oversimplifying the issue, but what the heck.

Steph

Ok Marco, I gotta ask, where in the world did you get that from!  Orientation and Identity are two very separate issues.  There is NOTHING about being a trans male that would make you a lesbian. At the most if you liked guys you would be a gay trans male.  So where did you get this from???

Peace,

Taylor

Taylor,
       I was referring  to what I don't consider myself prior to transition. I had just noticed a more broad definition on the word that I was not aware of. I think what Stephine had said had made sense.

                                                Marco

Marco,

Steph posted when I was writing you lol....I saw that and laughed...pretty much the same thing!

Peace,

Taylor

I think I know what you were saying, Marco. I look all over the place, but I can't seem to find any books or stories where the ftm isn't previously identified as a lesbian. Personally, I was bi and no I don't know, but it's more of a radical step to go from het female to gay male than from lesbian female to straight male. I guess it's because you're already queer if you wera a lesbian...

I don't know if that made sense, but yeah.

Transguykid,

      I find the many different definitions confusing. I personally have  always felt male, and need to be that way to be with a woman, straight women by the way. Is this rare? It seems to me that most MtF are with women that are lesbians. See, I would never be attracted to a lesbian. Now that I am finally going to transition completely, none of that matters now. But before living as a guy without surgery I then to only was with straight women. To understand that is to know that no one ever knew I was a woman under everything. About you sying your not sure what you are, what or who are you most attracted to, and then how do you view yourself with that person in a comfortable manner? Male or female? Just something to think about.

                                         Marco

Marco,

Now I am getting what you were asking...a bit slow with this. I can tell you this.... prior to my "transition" I was a guy that had not been born with a body that society would totally accept as a males body, but I was still male, and I am still male...I liked Strait women then, and I like strait women now.... I did try sex with a male on a few ocassions pre transtioning, I think to see if I could please society....and I told my mom I was "->-bleeped-<-ging out" ( Not ment to offend, it is really what I said) when she asked me were I was out all night. She never said a response to my statement, but she knew what I meant!

I was a teenager and very aware that it was a gay act for me to be with a guy.  It felt it completely and I hated myself for trying to appease the world around me, it left me with a very low self esteem and a lot of self hate I had to work through later.

No your not alone, I have never been with a lesbian, I have however been with a couple of bi women, but not any lesbians, like you I was not attracted to it, could not relate to a thing.  I went to gay bars on ocassions with gay friends of mine. I have been hit on by gay men and gay women both in the past.

I could sit at the bar and look around and the one woman that I would be attracted to, was the only striat woman in the place,...how do I know? because I would ask her to dance. Some said yes and some said no...all made it clear they were strait, some went on out with me for extended dating relationships, drawn to me and confused at first,then aware they were actually with a male....others it was a dance, some talking and that was it.

So no you are not alone bro!

Peace,

Taylor

Quote from: Marco on May 13, 2006, 12:24:47 PM
About you sying your not sure what you are, what or who are you most attracted to, and then how do you view yourself with that person in a comfortable manner? Male or female? Just something to think about.

                                         Marco

Well, before I viewed myself as a bisexual female because I knewI wasn't a lesbian and I wasn't straight. Now I'm with a straight(but not narrow) guy who knows I'm trans and is fine with it. The more time passes, the more comfortable I am with being attracted to women. It didn't sit well with me to like them as a woman, but as a man it's fine. I'm something like pansexual. I do have penetrative sex with my boyfriend, and I enjoy it, but I don't enjoy it as much physically(though mentally&emotionally is another thing) as when I believed myself female with a previous boyfriend. It's really all in the mind, I think. Even if I have what is considered by our sex as straight, we're a queer or unlabeled couple.

Most people can't wrap their brains around anything other than gay-bi-les-straight, so I tell them I'm something like a bisexual. Not knowing my sexual orientation doesn't bother me at all, really. Isn't my partner's personality more important than their body? Of course I have preferences in looks like everybody else, but they aren't rules; it's just a bonus if my partner has what I like. If they don't have what I like, I like what they have.