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T and physical height

Started by James-Alen, August 19, 2008, 08:56:15 PM

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Keira


The procedure is very painful and there is a limit to how much they can do because
since there not doing the bottom and upper bone, there will be problems if they make
one much longer than the other.  So, they may make you up to 3 inch taller, but that's
a lot of risks and pain for that.

The smaller you are, the smaller the number of inch they can
make you go up without looking weird and impacting locomotion.
So, someone 4 foot 10 could be made 5 foot tall, but
someone 5 foot 3 could probably be made 5 foot 6.

This procedure cannot make you tall, at best it can take you inside
the 5 foot 8 and more, average male range (the average is 5 foot 10 with a
2 inch standard deviation around it).  So, if you're 5 foot 5 and less,
it won't make you close to average height for a male.

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Elwood

Quote from: Jack Daniels on August 25, 2008, 01:12:31 AM
Quote from: Dennis on August 24, 2008, 11:35:39 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on August 24, 2008, 09:51:03 PMLooks painful...
Saw a documentary on it once. It's agonizing. And over a long period of time. No thanks. I'm 5'5" and have many bio male friends who are the same height or shorter. Yeah, I'd like to be tall, but it ain't gonna happen. Still and all, I'm living the life I want to and if it means making myself proportionately shorter in comparison to my gender, it's still worth it.

Dennis
Yeah, you have a great point, but 5"2 is just too short.Im shorter than alot of girls, and then with the guys its even worse. BUT, theres always streching and the little hope that brings...
How old are you? You might have some growing left. I'm 18 and my mom is sure she didn't stop growing until she was 22. We young folk have hope left and if we do the right things nutritionally we might be able to kick in another inch or two.

I personally won't die if I stay 5'3". But I don't like being "uke." Some guy's butt toy. I don't like being feminine or someone's little pet. I always have been. Because I weigh under 80lbs, people always like to pick me up and carry me around. I gave up struggling years ago; I'm just plain too weak. The whole world looks like a bunch of dumbfrack juggernauts who are big and stupid and like to choke little animals/people by squeezing them too hard.
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Jack Daniels

"uke"...Thats funny. Yeah Man!, Me and you are supposed to be seme! Im 18 too. Youre right, we do have hope left and must continue. Thanks Keira, I see no one thinks its a good idea to get the height surgery, and I agree, I dont want to look handicapped or disporportioned(spelling fails at life)...but this height thing is killin me. I ll just continue to wear unisex boots with platforms until I hopefully grow taller. And I feel bad for you that people pick up up, people used to do that to me, until I started theating to demolish their entire existence.
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Jamie-o

Don't forget, there are also shoes specifically made for short men.  Some will add as much as 4" to your height.  They're a bit pricey, though, so unless you have money to burn, you probably want to wait until you've been on T awhile and have had all the growth you're likely to get in your feet. (I understand it's not uncommon to gain 1/2 a shoe size when you start T.)  There's a list of elevator shoe vendors over on the Hudson's FTM guide site.
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Keira


There are no shows that really add 4 inches to your height because such shoes would look too
obvious. A platform shoes must almost look like a normal shoe, at 4 inch, its impossible. Of course
if you wear platform healed boots, then you'd probably be up 4 inches, but that's quite uncomfortable
to walk in.

Its the same with high heels shoes, a 4 inch heel shoe doesn't make you 4 inch taller, it makes you
at bit less than 3 inch taller. The longer the shoe (shoe size), the closer to the heel height you can elevate yourself.
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Jamie-o

I was wondering how that would work, myself.  But, that's what they claim on the web site.  (Actually, they have one model that they claim can make you 5 inches taller.)  I haven't tried them on though, so I couldn't verify it.  :)  I suspect that they are platform boots with a bit of a heel, and then they make the outside of the shoe come down farther than usual so they don't look like giant platforms.  That's just my guess, though.
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noxdraconis

Quote from: Jamie-o on August 26, 2008, 04:29:00 AM
I was wondering how that would work, myself.  But, that's what they claim on the web site.  (Actually, they have one model that they claim can make you 5 inches taller.)  I haven't tried them on though, so I couldn't verify it.  :)  I suspect that they are platform boots with a bit of a heel, and then they make the outside of the shoe come down farther than usual so they don't look like giant platforms.  That's just my guess, though.

I have a pair of these.  They look like normal dress shoes on the outside and inside they got the platform to raise you up.  Here are some pictures of mine.





In this pic my thumb is at the top of the inner platform so that you can get an idea of how much is hidden inside:


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Jack Daniels

you know those are great. An easy fix to a problem thats cheap and effective. how much were yours
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noxdraconis

Quote from: Jack Daniels on August 26, 2008, 02:06:38 PM
you know those are great. An easy fix to a problem thats cheap and effective. how much were yours

In the $85 range.  They sold a model for $75ish but those were out of stock at the time that I ordered them and I REALLY wanted them in time for graduation (I did not want to look stupid at the podium giving my speech with the audience only able to see the top of my mortarboard :embarrassed:).


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Elwood

Omfg! I love those shoes. Not because they're raise, but the style.

Unfortunately, I am a BOY'S 3. That's really small. I can never get custom shoe jobs like this. Not for an affordable price.

I personally do not want to be taller "in comparison to other people's heads," so the shoe's won't help. I want to have longer limbs and a wider shoulder span. I really just want to be bigger with the same proportions.
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Melissa

My ex-wife is 5'10" and her new fiance is 5'3" if that helps.
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Elwood

Quote from: Melissa on August 26, 2008, 06:17:26 PMMy ex-wife is 5'10" and her new fiance is 5'3" if that helps.
That does help. SHORT PEEPS GET MARRIED!  ;D Yay.
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Keira


That doesn't really look like 5 inch, more like 3 inch tops.
With the incline, probably less, how much higher you are depends
on wear the ball of your foot resides, not the back of your foot.
Measure yourself with and without shoes to see how much it
really makes you look taller.
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noxdraconis

Quote from: Keira on August 26, 2008, 06:48:38 PM

That doesn't really look like 5 inch, more like 3 inch tops.
With the incline, probably less, how much higher you are depends
on wear the ball of your foot resides, not the back of your foot.
Measure yourself with and without shoes to see how much it
really makes you look taller.


They make you 7.5 cm not 5 in.  I should have clarified in my other post, but I forgot to put it in when typing this the second time around.  It actually does make you taller because it is like stepping on tip-toes (which I do often when taking group pictures because I am vertically challenged ;)).  If I had someone else to help me take some pictures to compare the difference with and without the shoes, I would not mind posting some, but I had a b*tch of a time trying to get enough of my body in a pic for both the binder review thread and the style thread. 


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Jamie-o

It occurred to me, the irony is, if I bought a pair of these shoes, I'd have to learn to walk in heels.  :D


Actually, I have one pair of high-heeled boots, which I really like because they make me taller.  But, I find that the position they put my feet in gives me a more feminine walk.  Do you find that happens with your lifts?


I'm not too worried, mind you.  I'm O.K. with poncing around like Mr. Humphreys.  ;)  "Walk this way, Sir."
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noxdraconis

It is not as hard as walking in heels, because the heel is not some little point that you balance on but something that is just as wide as your regular heel.  But, yes, you do have to alter your stride a bit to be more masculine.  It is not too hard though once you get used to the change in your center of balance.


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Elwood

Meh. It only adds a little bit, and it doesn't make you actually bigger. I want to be a larger size keeping a reasonable proportion. Average. Putting blocks on my feet won't make my bones bigger.

I have, however, learned one technique of height increase that is proven to work under certain circumstances. It does NOT make you grow. It does, however, decompress the spine. If your spine is a horrible mess, then you might have a couple inches hiding in there. If you've always had good posture, this probably won't do much about your height, but it still good for you.

Remember: If you intend to try this exercise do it very carefully and slowly. Do not pull or strain. You should only allow gravity to pull down and the movement should be effortless. If you feel any pulls or tightness, something is wrong. Also, remember to breathe. Don't hold your breath during the process.

http://www.thirstyirishrunners.org/Articles/taking_care_of_your_spine.htm

QuoteTaking care of your spine
By Brian Dorfman
For Active.com
August 18, 2006


Running clears the mind and compresses the spine. The spinal cord is the brain's messenger. It lives in the center of your vertebra and finds peace when given just the right amount of twist and torque.

With long term stress, problems of the spine can range from uncomfortable to painful to excruciating. The good news is that the relationship between running and compression is not all bad.

Our system responds to compression with strength, repair and adaptability. However, long training can cause break down and fatigue. Help the back muscles to release and the spine to recover faster using the following stretches. They will hydrate fluid in the disk, release tight spine muscles and promote recovery of the nervous system.

Lower back elongator

The pros like this stretch because it is easy, but deeply effective. It may be just the answer for a sore back after a long ride -- particularly if climbing is involved. The lower back elongator will relax lower back muscles, extend the spine and increase nutrition and recovery to the brain.

This stretch is most effective when you use your inhale to expand your ribs. Recall that if the ribs move, the spine moves, then the brain moves.

   1. Start on your hands and knees.

       
   2. Then lower your hips to your heels and your chest to your knees.

       
   3. Rest your forehead on the floor.

       
   4. Use your inhale to expand the ribs.

       
   5. Stay for 10 - 20 breaths.

The elongator is most effective when step four is implemented. In this and all stretches, find a position that feels comfortable, then direct your attention to the areas that you want to access. And finally, use your breathe to expand into the deep internal muscles.

Spine roll

The nervous system has a mass of 2 kg/4.5 pounds and accounts for three percent of our body weight. It does more work than a triathlete, knows more about the body than a doctor and is responsible for food and waste removal to the brain.

The spine roll uses the ever-present force of gravity and the weight of the head to bring balance to your nervous system. This balance includes decompression of the disks, cerebral spinal fluid to the brain and stress response of the nervous system.

   1. Interlace your hands behind your head, keeping your fingers and elbows relaxed.

       
   2. As you exhale, bend your knees; relax your elbows toward your face and round forward.

       
   3. Stay and inhale into the ribs.

       
   4. When you exhale, keep the chin in toward your chest and roll up.

       
   5. Repeat five times, moving on the exhale and staying on the inhale.

       
   6. This is a great position to stay in for 5 - 10 breaths.

Take your time with the spine roll. After moving up and down four to six times, move to a position that feels extra tight, stop, expand the area with your inhale and wait. Then slightly shift your position and find the next tight area, breath and wait.

Experience these simple stretches. Find the depth of your recovery. Stay strong. Feel good.

Race and train forever.

Brian Dorfman's proven techniques keep many triathletes performing at their peak. Brian can be reached at www.briandorfman.com.
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Christo

Quote from: Elwood on August 24, 2008, 07:25:10 PM
Here's an animation of the procedure:



Here's a graphic photo of what it does to your legs: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/penguin_furuba/61.jpg

damn!  :icon_yikes: :icon_yikes:  5'6'' aint that bad 4 a dude like me  :D :D   dunno if I wanna do that.   :D
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Elwood

The procedure takes forever and leaves horrific scarring on your legs. It also contributes to bone weakness. Even though I'd be happy with being 2-3 inches taller... I just don't think it's worth the scarring and pain it causes. Plus I'd be out of work for like 3 years or however long it takes.
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