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All consuming obsessive thought

Started by Yip, August 15, 2008, 04:52:58 PM

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Yip

Since I'm at a point where I can do nothing but sit and wait ...wait wait wait, i'm finding myself extremely obsessed
about all of this.  I'm personally waiting for the day that I can make an appointment with a therapist to get things moving.
I dont know when, sometimes I wonder if it will ever happen.

But i'm finding myself absolutely obsessed with pretty much all aspects of mtf, i'm running the imaginary talk between
me and the therapist through my head almost every single minute of the day every damn day for about a month now.
It doesnt matter whats actually happening around me it doesnt matter what i'm doing or talking about. its ALWAYS on my mind!!.

I'm going from omg what will I do if it all falls apart and I cant do anything!!,  to what to say that day i'm infront of the
therapist, to years in future and thinking about what I want, what will do about family and work and sometimes just sometimes I dare think about what would
life be like after and hope.  But its the utterly all consuming obsessive nature of this thought every waking moment that
is really beginning to grate for me.

What do people do to have a moments peace to focus on the here and now.
to be able to just to put it all on the i'm working on it just shutup pile for an hour would be great!.

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TamTam

I definitely know what that's like.

Sometimes what helps is to give yourself a set period of time where you're 'allowed' to think about this, and then the rest of the time, you're not 'allowed.'  For example, you could say, "I can't think about this until after dinner," or, "Until 5:00, this topic is off-limits."

Sometimes it also helps to just take a break every once in a while where you can't think about it, even if you tried, even if you wanted to.  For example.. listen to music and dance around.  Read a book or newspaper.  Watch an interesting TV program.  Play a game online that require speed/strategy, like chess.

And if you absolutely must must must think about it, do visualization exercises, instead. :) What I mean is, instead of worrying about what could go wrong, visualize everything going right.  Envision the therapist greeting you with a smile, believing what you have to say, visualize everything going smoothly and you getting your hormone letter as quickly as the therapist can jot it down because s/he is just so sure and confident that this is what you need.  Visualize it all going right, and it will help make it so. :) And then you won't stress about it so much because you'll be confident, too.

Good luck. :)
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Arch

Hello, Yip. Yeah, I've been doing the same thing and have been considering the situation from various angles. One of my problems is that I'll often get so caught up in obsessing that I'll actually forget that anything else is possible. It's pretty weird to obsess for three hours and only then realize that I could have been trying not to. I have been spending a lot of time trying to regain control of my thoughts. I haven't been very successful yet, but I've had a few short periods of clarity, a few times when I was able to do something else. On the other hand, those short periods came at a high price. I think that I just need to go with the obsession for now--I've been bottled up for so long that (as either my partner or my therapist noted--I can't remember now) it should come as no surprise that I need to let it all out and wallow in it. Your situation may be completely different, of course.

In addition to TamTam on this thread, a bunch of people made some GREAT suggestions to me on another thread--maybe some of those suggestions would help you. Here's the link: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,40455.0.html.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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Yip

oh ty for link, and I guess I will try that, try and give myself time to do it and time I shouldnt, I guess either you
control it or it controls you, but since coming out to myself i've also very quickly discovered its a bad idea
to try to continue suppressing, so giving time to do it to release it but not let it utterly dominate me does sound
exactly right to me.

You know your right I should try to push the bad scenarios out, obsessing over them only makes me
feel terrible and probably make me a nervous wreck by the time I do get to talk to someone...
(if not one already)

its a terrible problem dealing with this, If I try to ignore it i'll tear myself up inside until the day I do something
stupid, if I try to let it out and go with it. I actually get worse because I cant go back once i've done that,
so I regret doing anything if I can't continue to do it.

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jixe

everywhere you go, there you are.

I'm obsessed too still, at least I am comfortable wherever I go.
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Arch

Yip, I HAVE managed to branch out some, only it's hard to see. Maybe the same thing is happening with you and you just can't see it. For over a month, ALL that I did was obsess over my gender and sexuality. I had Queer As Folk on endless loop and was watching it for eight or ten hours a day. When I cut back on QAF, I substituted with other queer media and films that I knew would push my buttons. I paced around and talked to myself, I obsessively searched the Internet for trans- and gay-related material, and in July I started obsessively lurking and posting here.

Today I tried to take a more objective look at my situation. Okay, I'm not working on my thesis, and I'm still having a hard time getting to sleep at night, but I'm gaining control in other, smaller ways. My partner and I spend scheduled time together doing non-trans, non-sexuality activities. I've stopped being quite so obsessive about watching Queer As Folk, gay movies, and other films that push my buttons. I still watch them some, but I've branched out into mainstream films. Today I'm watching a Fellini picture; I wouldn't have stood for that a month ago! I've read a couple of books--in July, I was too wired to read anything. I'm exercising. I think I'm pacing a bit less, although it is a little hard to tell. My partner and I are spending more time just talking. And now I'm in therapy, which (despite my initial cynicism about it) is a huge help.

Anyway, I'm starting to see that even if I don't yet have full control of my life, the obsession has lost a little of its grip on me, largely because I've been trying to be aware of it and also because I've attempted to make a few small decisions here and there to sort of nudge myself in the right direction. So, yes, I'm riding the obsession, but I'm also pushing myself in little ways toward getting myself under control.

It takes baby steps. That's what people keep saying, and it's true. So if you can take one baby step here and there, TERRIFIC! For me, it's a baby step to watch La Dolce Vita instead of a gay-themed movie. I'll still see that gay-themed movie a week or two down the road, but the fact that I can defer it and do something else is progress.

I guess what I'm saying is that you can make small progress without even realizing it--and you can nudge yourself toward making small progress. So you have to take the initiative to make very small gains, and you have to further take the initiative to recognize these small gains and pat yourself on the back for them.

Try this: sit down with a few pieces of paper and a pen. Tell yourself that you're going to write out your frustrations and then take a few minutes to yourself. Sit down and write a few pages, don't lift pen from paper--just keep writing whatever nonsense comes into your head. Later, if you want, you can destroy what you've written. Write for fifteen minutes, or write three pages--you decide what is right for you. When you're done, put the pen down and take the break. It can be five minutes, three minutes, even less. Take the time to focus on one thing--the passage of time, the second hand, the sand in the sand timer, your elusive sense of inner peace, the image of something pleasant. When your mind starts to wander/obsess, refocus. Keep doing it until your three minutes, or whatever, are up.

I don't know if this exercise will help, but it gives you the chance to obsess guilt-free for a specific length of time or a specific number of written pages before you start trying to focus for just a few minutes. If you can clear your mind for just a short time, that's an improvement, isn't it? Eventually, you will get better, and--perhaps more important--you will FEEL like you are controlling some aspect of your life. You might say that as the obsessiveness gradually lifts on its own, OF COURSE you'll start doing other things and getting back to a less stressful, more "normal" state--so, what's the difference if you "train" yourself along the way? Well, I think it makes a big difference. If you can knowingly take advantage of the small opportunities that come along, the cracks in your obsession, as it were, then you are exerting conscious control over your situation. You won't feel as if the return to "normality" just happened...to a great extent, you'll have caused it yourself. You'll feed on your own good vibes and sense of accomplishment and control. Your awareness of any small gains is therefore key.

When WILL you be able to start therapy? Soon, I hope.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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Trish Peters


I found this information showed me a path to stop suffering from the compulsive mind chatter
If this message resonates listen to more lectures on Utube

Eckhart Tolle
Being yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j42cTkiGdXY&feature=related

End of sufffering:


Emotions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVLC53Ha658&feature=related
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Elwood

I'm obsessed, too. I feel so close, and every time I get closer my goal scurries away from me. I feel like a cat chasing mice. Robot mice. Mice that are always 3 steps ahead of me.
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Yip

oh pacing around i'm doing that all the time as well what normally snap's me out of it is realising my family are giving
me odd looks wondering what i'm doing...   yeah today I read books and even dusted off the wii and had a game,
its nice to feel normal for a little while although its all escapism. I dont see any other way to stop thinking
about it, dont seem to have the willpower to simply shut it out when needed but I guess thats the point
of it being obsessive if it wasnt I would be able to stop when I wanted to!.

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iFindMeHere

I "mood" myself out of it. I'll put on soothing music, comfortable clothes, light incense sometimes... enjoy something to eat or drink. MINDFULLY focusing on the pleasures of the moment and really taking them in. It's my happy place. I try to keep those moments and the feelings associated with them toward the side of my mind so if I get down I go to it and remember how it felt. It takes practice but it helps.
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Yip

I've had a recent blow the job I needed has fallen through on me, As far as I can tell I don't
really see me ever getting anything at all now. Even talking to someone is gone now.
Now i'm the opposite of obssessed, I just have hardly any feelings at all now guess
I can discribe it as "Numb"... not sad not happy, nothing I still cry sometimes but
I don't seem to have the feeling to connect it, I think i'm just exhusted i've put so
much hope into this and its gone. I don't really have anyone to go to or talk to, I can't
afford to put more into hoping for this since right now its not going to happen. And
when I do log on and read posts I see people who seem to be complaining about
height measurement for example which just kind of frustrates me even more,
Since I would give anything to have that as my "problem".

Now i'm just wondering why I don't seem to deserve to have any breaks at all.



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iFindMeHere

We all go through this you know. my SO's been worried I would commit suicide. (Yeah yeah Elwood you're right I need to get into therapy  :icon_blahblah: )

there are all sorts of posts here on all sorts of things though. tried the search button? each time i think i have a "new" question I find a discussion i can join concerning it...

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