Quote from: Elwood on September 07, 2008, 01:07:14 PM
I haven't shaved for a while and so far I don't smell worse. I'm starting to think it's one of those urban myths. Then again, I'm not big and hairy like most of you guys. I'm smaller than most girls.
insert anecdotal evidence of myself here.
Also, RIVETS = Rivetheads.
Per Wikipedia:
A rivethead is a person associated with the industrial music scene. Though industrial music emerged in the post-punk period, the identifiable stereotype of an Industrial fan would only emerge in the 1990s.[1] Rivetheads are sometimes associated with the cybergoth scene, though the development of the subculture occurred independently of goth. Dress style is typically militaristic.
etc etc
Aesthetics
The dress style of rivetheads is inspired by military aesthetics, complemented by modern primitive body-modification (tattoos, piercings and scarification) or borrowed visual cues from goths (mainly androgyny, fetishism and black hair dye), as well as punk themes (such as the fanned Mohawk hairstyle, worn by Sascha Konietzko of KMFDM).
Below are some of the main characteristics of the rivethead dress style, as indicated on parody sites such as Industrial 101[6] and Sykospark's "Insta Rivethead Kit"[7][8][9][10], and specific topics off the Side-Line[11] and
industrial.org forums.
Boots: combat boots, Tanker boots, knee-high military dress boots, steel-toe boots (such as Dr. Martens, Gripfasts or Grinders), which are usually the centerpiece of the rivethead wardrobe. They are alternatively called "->-bleeped-<- stomping boots", "stompy boots" or "->-bleeped-<-kicking boots"
Pants: cargo pants or BDUs, often but not always black or urban camo, usually tucked into boots, pants rolled at the bottom cuffs, or as cut-off shorts. Also, leather pants and bondage pants.
Tops: Band T-shirts, Black Wifebeaters, flight jackets, leather jackets ("old school"). Bulletproof Vests, Trenchcoats are also frequently seen.
Hair: Long and black, dyed bright colors, shaved bald, partially shaved (undercut), or in a few cases, dreadlocked* and cyberfalls*.
headgear or facegear: sometimes masks are used, gasmasks, helmets and Welding goggles
Comparison to goth subculture
It should be noted that rivetheads are different from goths in ideological and musical terms, as well as in their visual aesthetics. Goths were a romantic outgrowth of punk, while the industrial counterculture was largely a pre-punk entity.
Confusion regarding the boundaries of those two youth cultures has heightened because of recent (mid-1990s onwards) hybridization, [12] which has led some people to believe that Rivetheads were actually a Goth offshoot[13][14]; the Canadian novelist Nancy Kilpatrick calls them "Industrial Goths".[15]). That assumption is incorrect. Industrial counterculture came to be in 1977[16] while Goth subculture gelled around the London's Batcave club in the summer of 1982[17][18][19].
The rise of cybergoths further contributed to this cross-boundary issue.
Rivethead culture is highly violent and sometimes totalitarian in its visuals, but not necessarily in practice. Goth culture is, however, devoid of any appreciation for violence[20][21]. The most important difference is the related types of music. They were grouped due to how small the Industrial scene was plus the fact of dark themes and further the merging of the music.
[edit] Columbine massacre
In the aftermath of the Columbine massacre, groups such as Marilyn Manson[22], Rammstein and KMFDM[23] were blamed for the tragedy. (According to a friend of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the Columbine shooters listened to the above artists, and the media has wrongly accused others that listened to these bands of heightened violent activity.[24]). Because of their liking for black clothes and trench coats, Harris and Klebold were labelled by the media as goths, something which many goths resented.[25]
According to musicologist Bret D. Woods in his Master Thesis about industrial music-[26]
"It is (...) important to note that some industrial artists use Marxist, socialist, and/or communist imagery in a shocking and satirical way to represent tyranny and their protest against tyranny. These are not to be seen as endorsements of particular ideologies, but are to be taken in context to their intent, a commentary on oppression".
– Bret Woods, Industrial Music for Industrial People (2007)
so:
Gothnote the shiny, black-black fabric - effeminate style, natural texture to hair
Rivet
this guy's fabric could come from a factory jumpsuit and his makeup's aggressive... synthetic look to hair
