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Started by Natasha, October 25, 2008, 02:52:51 PM

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Re-transition

http://y2gender.com/index.php?blog=2&title=re_transition&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
by Zythyra
10/24/2008

I read the news yesterday of Christine Daniels re-transitioning back To Mike Penner. As a person who did RLT for over a year and then re-transitioned, also while in a fairly public profession, I truly understand the difficulty of this decision. It was among the hardest decisions of my life, much more so than my original choice to
transition.

The news stories I've seen of re-transition have often been sensationalist, over the top accountings of this situation, containing mostly stereotypical views of transgender people. I don't know the reasons for Christine/Mike's decision, and I'm not going to speculate on them. I respect her privacy. If she ever decides to write about her experiences, I will look forward to reading them. If she chooses not
to share these in the glare of the media spotlight, that's completely understandable.
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MeghanAndrews

Thanks for sharing that personal bit of information Natasha. I've seen so many of your posts and I never knew you went through that. It's good to see you in a good place these days :) Meghan
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Nero

Hey mama Z! You never pointed me to your blog! Shame, shame.  :eusa_snooty:

good sharing on this article though.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Natasha

Quote from: MeghanAndrews on October 25, 2008, 09:11:25 PMThanks for sharing that personal bit of information Natasha. I've seen so many of your posts and I never knew you went through that. It's good to see you in a good place these days :)  Meghan

we should be thankful to zythyra. she's the author of this terrific article!


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Shana A

Quote from: MeghanAndrews on October 25, 2008, 09:11:25 PM
Thanks for sharing that personal bit of information Natasha. I've seen so many of your posts and I never knew you went through that. It's good to see you in a good place these days :) Meghan

Meghan, I've mentioned various bits about retransitioning in previous posts here in the forum, but seeing the news about Christine/Mike made me realize that it's important to share my story. Obviously I'm not the only person who has gone through this.

Quote from: Nero on October 25, 2008, 10:01:19 PM
Hey mama Z! You never pointed me to your blog! Shame, shame.  :eusa_snooty:

good sharing on this article though.

Nero, there's a link to my blog in my sig, I guess I could "advertise" it more though.

Quote from: Natasha on October 25, 2008, 11:53:06 PM
we should be thankful to zythyra. she's the author of this terrific article!

Thanks Natasha!

Zythyra
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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MeghanAndrews

Ok, I'm dumb, lol, I didn't follow the author part of the story. Sorry Natasha and my original comment applies to you now Zythyra :)
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Chrissty

Hi Zathura,

I guess I share a lot of similar concerns to those you express. After feeling like just dropping out and transitioning when I first arrived here, over the last few months I have found that there is something to be said for reflecting, and spending some time investigating why I feel like this.

Let's face it, I've lived this way for some 50 years, so why put my family through hell now? ..Can I really be that selfish, can I bring myself to risk destroying what I've spent a lifetime building?

...but then there is that little voice that tells me ..maybe it's my turn...

... ultimately only time will tell.   

BUT... I find there is a lot of subconscious pressure on this forum to start formal transition, and some of the new arrivals here seem to succumb to that, taking our posts and discussions as an instant sign of approval to transition immediately at any cost.

I find this worrying, because they so often seem unsure when they arrive, and it's all to easy for what is said to act as a catalyst, without an understanding the circumstances. Don't get me wrong, I love this place for the support and understanding, but it is all too easy to inadvertently "push" too hard during the decision process.

Would they have transitioned if they had different advice...well probably yes...

....but would they have thrown caution to the wind and gone full out at it..

...probably not; at least some of the cases I've seen.

There has got to be a hope of salvaging more relationships with partners and children if these things are taken in a slower more structured way...

....So... I totally respect and agree with your decision to take time and take stock of your life and aspirations. Clearly it's better to do this before we get as far, or as public as Christine/Mike.

Like you say; back in time, some cultures would be consider us "wise" as opposed to "crazy" ......

:icon_hug:

Chrissty


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Shana A

Quote from: MeghanAndrews on October 26, 2008, 11:26:04 AM
Ok, I'm dumb, lol, I didn't follow the author part of the story. Sorry Natasha and my original comment applies to you now Zythyra :)

No problem Meghan, I figured the comments were for me as the author. ;D

Quote from: Chrissty on October 26, 2008, 01:55:10 PM
I guess I share a lot of similar concerns to those you express. After feeling like just dropping out and transitioning when I first arrived here, over the last few months I have found that there is something to be said for reflecting, and spending some time investigating why I feel like this.

Let's face it, I've lived this way for some 50 years, so why put my family through hell now? ..Can I really be that selfish, can I bring myself to risk destroying what I've spent a lifetime building?

...but then there is that little voice that tells me ..maybe it's my turn...

... ultimately only time will tell.  

Chrissty, I can certainly empathize with you, I'm 52, so it's been a long time dealing with this. The stakes can be very high for older transitioners what with families, careers, etc.

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BUT... I find there is a lot of subconscious pressure on this forum to start formal transition, and some of the new arrivals here seem to succumb to that, taking our posts and discussions as an instant sign of approval to transition immediately at any cost.

I find this worrying, because they so often seem unsure when they arrive, and it's all to easy for what is said to act as a catalyst, without an understanding the circumstances. Don't get me wrong, I love this place for the support and understanding, but it is all too easy to inadvertently "push" too hard during the decision process.

Yes, I agree we should be careful of cheerleading newcomers to transition. When I first transitioned it was pre internet, however the transwomen I met warned me of possible repercussions and advised going slow. Not that I listened to their advice, I just went full tilt into it  ;) We also have pressure from society to fit in to one gender or another, all or nothing. I'd like to see that eventually change.

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Like you say; back in time, some cultures would be consider us "wise" as opposed to "crazy" ......

Maybe both wise and crazy  :laugh:

hugs,

Zythyra
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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