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Are there more bio M or F androgynes?

Started by Just Kate, February 08, 2009, 02:09:33 AM

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Eva Marie

Quote from: Simone Louise on February 08, 2009, 01:56:34 PM
Quote from: tekla on February 08, 2009, 12:17:44 PM
Even before those labels, it was always far more OK for a girl to be a tomboy, then for a boy to be a sissy.  Hell, in '73 I had to fight like a dog to take Home Ec.  Now, girls could take woodshop or autoshop, but a boy wanting to cook?  Never.  Odd, I got some grief for it until all the guy figured out that I was making cakes and brownies in school and all wanted in on that.

Riding Michigan Central trains to and from college, I would knit, noting and ignoring female stares. Later in life, when I made dishes for pot lucks, my wife would automatically be complimented. When my wife went on business trips, her mother would suggest leaving me ready-cooked meals (I, being responsible for most of the meals when she's home).

On the other hand, when I took an adult-ed sewing course, the instructor insisted I make a skirt, like the other students. We were told to wear them the last day of class, which fell on Halloween. Nor has there ever been an eyebrow raised when I've taken adult-ed cooking classes.

The AARP is sponsoring a sweepstakes. The prize is a makeover ("Christopher Hopkins, a.k.a. The Makeover Guy, did an amazing job on the winners of our 2008 Faces of 50+ Real People Model Search (check them out in our multimedia special). Now, one lucky reader—chosen in a random drawing—will score a trip to Christopher's reVamp! salonspa for his or her own beauty makeover."). I wonder if they are prepared for long-haired androgynes, cross dressers, and the rest of us. Anyone else an AARP member? I wonder if I should enter.

Of course, I know that such roles and presentations have nothing to do with gender, but then what does?

Smiling sweetly whilst pondering what to make for supper (no smoothies--it must be something my wife likes),
S

I also do all of the cooking around my house, and I like going to the grocery. My wifes idea of dinner is a bowl of cereal. Unfortunately, I took a job out of town and i'm gone most of the time. My youngest daughter complained that they'll starve to death with me being out of town LOL.....

It is fun to experiment with new recipes and try different seasonings and such. Every once in a while you hit on something and it becomes a family favorite.
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Simone Louise

Quote from: Nero on February 08, 2009, 02:00:10 PM

I want a wife like you Simone!

I am flattered, and hope you find as good a match as I seem to have found.

Fondly,
S
Choose life.
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V M

I like to cook. Some folks would make fun of that. Then they would be lining up with dinner plate in hand  :laugh:
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Jaimey

I need a male bodied person who cooks.  Not that my cooking is bad...it's just...different.  :laugh:  I can make spaghetti or something like that, but eventually you get tired of noodles and sauce. :P
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Pica Pica

i cook like a dream....a slightly feverish dream, but still.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Jaimey

Quote from: Pica Pica on February 08, 2009, 03:41:29 PM
i cook like a dream....a slightly feverish dream, but still.

Is that good or bad?  :laugh:
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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ZaidaZadkiel

cooking is too much fun. Even tho sometimes I get unedibles :(
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Pica Pica

Quote from: Jaimey on February 08, 2009, 03:45:28 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 08, 2009, 03:41:29 PM
i cook like a dream....a slightly feverish dream, but still.

Is that good or bad?  :laugh:

a little of column A, and a little of column B
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Nicky

I do the cooking for my family too. Me and my wife have a good partnership going on - I cook and she eats, seems to work like a charm.

Right now I have a hankering for a good stroganoff. I like to make them with chicken thigh meat. Unfortunately I have become lactose intolerant again  :'(. I wonder if I could do a pacific inspired version with coconut cream and lemon juice.......I suppose I would then need to use fish which is already a samoan dish....
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Jaimey

Hmm...you know, I think you could make a chicken stroganoff without dairy products.  I can't remember what my mom used as sauce though, but I think the only dairy she used was a little sour cream and you could leave that out...hmm.  For beef stroganoff, she just used a store bought brown gravy mix.  Maybe they make a chicken gravy?  ??? (is that even stroganoff? :D)
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Nicky

I think it is the sourcream which really makes it - the combination of acid and creamy flavours.  Actaully I could probably get away with a bit of sour cream anyway, I heard it does not have much lactose in it.

The last one I made I used plain cream and vinegar. Came out really good. I think I liked it better than using a white wine sourcream style sauce.
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Simone Louise

Here's a link to a dairy-free stroganoff recipe: http://www.chabadominican.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/775538/jewish/kosher-beef-stroganoff.htm. It calls for beef but chicken could easily be substituted. I googled "kosher stroganoff recipe", but googling "dairy-free stroganoff recipe" yields more recipes.

For tonight, I have settled on turkey cutlets with marsala sauce, sauteed fennel, and couscous with dried cranberries and almonds. That should all be quick and easy, so if wife calls when she gets in car (as she often does) supper should be ready when she arrives. I hope that does sound to weird. We could kill the bottle of Tuscan red wine I used for the Stracotto (Italian pot roast) Thursday. Sorry, no dessert and no mixed beverages.

Now to clean the kitchen from this morning's hurried french toast, sausages, and fresh squeezed orange juice (my idea of lunch for one was coffee and cereal with 3 fruits and 2 nuts--easy to clean up. 'Fraid I make a messy housewife.

Grateful for a warm, sunny day,
S
Choose life.
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Pica Pica

'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Jaimey

Quote from: Simone Louise on February 08, 2009, 05:03:40 PM
For tonight, I have settled on turkey cutlets with marsala sauce, sauteed fennel, and couscous with dried cranberries and almonds.

Grateful for a warm, sunny day,
S

I'm starting to think we need an Androgyne Cooking thread.  And show.  That would be very interesting...
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Shana A

Quote from: Simone Louise on February 08, 2009, 01:56:34 PM
The AARP is sponsoring a sweepstakes. The prize is a makeover ("Christopher Hopkins, a.k.a. The Makeover Guy, did an amazing job on the winners of our 2008 Faces of 50+ Real People Model Search (check them out in our multimedia special). Now, one lucky reader—chosen in a random drawing—will score a trip to Christopher's reVamp! salonspa for his or her own beauty makeover."). I wonder if they are prepared for long-haired androgynes, cross dressers, and the rest of us. Anyone else an AARP member? I wonder if I should enter.

Simone, you should enter the contest!

I keep getting invitations to join AARP, but won't because of their political affiliations w/ the drug industry lobby...

I love to cook, and so does my partner, we split it up 50 - 50. Mostly vegetarian meals. I made organic buckwheat and veggies for dinner tonight.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Kendall

Quote from: interalia on February 08, 2009, 02:09:33 AM
Perhaps I haven't looked far enough down the threads in this forum so I apologize if this has already been hit on.

So the overwhelming majority of transsexuals start as biologically male.  So far from what I've noticed on the androgyne forums/lists I've seen, the majority of androgynes seem to start as biologically female.  Does anyone have any numbers or ideas on the reality of which biological sex produces the most androgynes?

Sent you a PM with numbers I have found so far compiled from 268 non-binary persons (which will change if I find more sources).
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Simone Louise

Forgive me for going on so about food. There are not many places to talk about such things. It doesn't come up much in guy talk, and I rarely fit into girl talk. Even in the General Discussion forums, cooking, sewing, knitting, children, etc don't come up much. It's all fashion and makeup.

Anyway, supper was a success. It all cooked so fast, I was courting disaster. Dishes came close to, but didn't burn. At one point, I grabbed for the cranberries and picked up dried Michigan cherries instead, but they went with the couscous and almonds as if I had planned it.

Z, my partner also likes to cook but has a more important role as breadwinner. Yesterday, she made hot dogs, baked beans, and sauerkraut to go with the basketball game we were watching on TV. I will enter the sweepstakes, but would be surprised to win. And finally, I must say your dinner sounds good; haven't eaten buckwheat in quite a while.

S
Choose life.
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Just Kate

Quote from: Ken/Kendra on February 08, 2009, 07:53:43 PM
Quote from: interalia on February 08, 2009, 02:09:33 AM
Perhaps I haven't looked far enough down the threads in this forum so I apologize if this has already been hit on.

So the overwhelming majority of transsexuals start as biologically male.  So far from what I've noticed on the androgyne forums/lists I've seen, the majority of androgynes seem to start as biologically female.  Does anyone have any numbers or ideas on the reality of which biological sex produces the most androgynes?

Sent you a PM with numbers I have found so far compiled from 268 non-binary persons (which will change if I find more sources).

I got to read it and am grateful!  I just hadn't responded yet.  That was some good work!
Ill no longer be defined by my condition. From now on, I'm just, Kate.

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tekla

FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Nero

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